Big night for Democrats!

TOP said:
Just show me the post where I said that...
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There is no need for that when you were making up things about me. We just go tit for tat. If you want honest debate, participate in it. If you want to troll and lie, you will get it back.
 
evince said:
We are a democracy


Americans don’t want your ideas implemented



So fuck off
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Did you pick your children's names before they were born? Any other preparations or did you just wait until the fetus "became" a baby?;)
 
QP! said:
There is no need for that when you were making up things about me. We just go tit for tat. If you want honest debate, participate in it. If you want to troll and lie, you will get it back.
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You can't post what isn't there... thank you for admitting you lied ..
 
QP! said:
He has been a great leader both in cleaning up the disaster Trump handed to him, and in re-investing in America, setting the stage for long term prosperity.

You only need to go to any of the ground breakings for his various infrastructure projects and see how many Republi'can' politicians, that voted against them, show up to try and take credit for them while praising what they will do for the region.

Personally I think he steps down, if Trump does not run. But if Trump runs he will stick around to embarrass him again.
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Agreed.

I believe Biden remains a candidate only because Trump is still a declared candidate. Thinking that he is probably the only one to beat Trump at this point. If Trump drops out, I believe Biden will, too. In fact, I HOPE Biden does, too.
 
TOP said:
When you and your wife found out that you were expecting your children did you recognize them as your babies immediately or did you wait until they were born? Women's right Advocates are insisting that there is no child until after birth and so terminating that life is not terminating a child.. unless you want that child... that's being rather judgmental and telling someone what to think or believe... and so pretty much telling them how to live... I don't think it's lowering standards to have the expectation of every child having a chance if at all possible.. of course we shall never agree about what constitutes quality of life..... you were blessed with healthy children as far as I know would your decision to bring them into the world have been any different if perhaps one of them had had a genetic difficulty? Or one had been a girl when you wanted a boy? Or the birth would have conflicted with a cruise that had been pre-booked? Or the child had been unplanned... I hope you realize that where I'm going with this is not strictly personal to you just some examples... on the other hand if you really think there's such a huge difference between liberals and conservatives when it comes to like being tolerable there isn't much I can say.... I do you think your perspective is kind of fascinating.... he would totally get along with a lot of the families here... very generational....
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^^^ So much emotional drivel.


And NO, it is factually wrong to say, as you do, that sharing your opinion of something is "pretty much telling them how to live".


It is fine to share your view, even if others do not like it. That is free speech and free association and unless you cross a line to harassing a person, that is fine.

You are trying to draw equivalency between that and what religious nuts do which is try to get control of laws to FORCE others to live to their views, as you know there is no equivalent, so you craft a lie.


I am all for letting extremists, like you ramble on and embarrass yourself and also any extremists who exist on the other side, whether real or just a fictional boogeyman you create. Ramble on both of you and face the ridicule you deserve.
 
TOP said:
Ask away...
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i already did. Two actually.

QP! said:
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Now your turn to answer a question.

Do you agree with the people who believe life begins at ejaculation and thus forms of 'contraception and abortion are both wrong as fruits of the same poisoned tree', as many fundamentalist believe?
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QP! said:
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Even if these religious zealots honestly hold their beliefs, why do they think that gives them the right to impose them on others.

ANother "fundamentalist" group, Jews, believe, via their holy book, that abortion is a right that MUST accessible via God's word. They too are entitled to their belief.

I want TOP to tell us how to reconcile the above and who should be the one to be able to impose their beliefs on the other?

Is it simply the one with more power? More votes? Might equals right???

Why does not one the one who believes abortion is wrong not do it, and answer to their God when they die. And the one who believes abortion must be accessible to them live to their beliefs and answer to their God. And the same for us who are not religious.


People like TOP say 'nuh huh if i can gain the political power or even physical might (ie Taliban) I will force you to live to my beliefs', while they would decry if the others tried to force them to live to theirs.
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QP! said:
^^^ So much emotional drivel.


And NO, it is factually wrong to say, as you do, that sharing your opinion of something is "pretty much telling them how to live".


It is fine to share your view, even if others do not like it. That is free speech and free association and unless you cross a line to harassing a person, that is fine.

You are trying to draw equivalency between that and what religious nuts do which is try to get control of laws to FORCE others to live to their views, as you know there is no equivalent, so you craft a lie.


I am all for letting extremists, like you ramble on and embarrass yourself and also any extremists who exist on the other side, whether real or just a fictional boogeyman you create. Ramble on both of you and face the ridicule you deserve.
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That's not any kind of religious nuttiness at all... that's just fact....(PS... there's absolutely no ridicule happening... if that's what you're trying for it's not working....)
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Looks to me like the "teacher" doesn't know the difference between the death of an already-born and living child, and taking a medication to prevent the implantation of a clump of cells that might someday be a living child.

Yes, more than half of abortions are performed today via medication.
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54%
 
TOP said:
That's not any kind of religious nuttiness at all... that's just fact....(PS... there's absolutely no ridicule happening... if that's what you're trying for it's not working....)
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Sorry it is not "Fact" to say if a person shares their opinion with you that is "pretty much telling them how to live".


That is what someone completely intolerant says to try and create equivalency to their intolerance. SO since you seek to use law to FORCE others to live your way, you say someone merely expressing their belief is them "pretty much telling (you) how to live" and that is a lie.
 
TOP said:
No...
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"No" i did not already ask those two questions i quoted to show i did ask them?

Or "NO" you won't answer them?

I suspect the latter for the record as Fundy's no their views are deplorable and reprehensible and thus avoid questions that would expose them as they are cowardly.
 
TOP said:
They're celebrating here right now... they're celebrating everywhere...
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They are celebrating freedom, you ridiculous twat.

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TOP said:
They're celebrating here right now... they're celebrating everywhere...
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If/when the Taliban are no longer in power in Afghanistan and women once again gain control of their options (healthcare, education, socialization, etc) i will celebrate the women getting back their choice.


That DOES NOT mean i celebrate or even agree with every choice.

I already said i agree with your right to say deplorable things, as you are doing now. that does now mean I celebrate what you say or do.
 
QP! said:
If/when the Taliban are no longer in power in Afghanistan and women once again gain control of their options (healthcare, education, socialization, etc) i will celebrate the women getting back their choice.


That DOES NOT mean i celebrate or even agree with every choice.

I already said i agree with your right to say deplorable things, as you are doing now. that does now mean I celebrate what you say or do.
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I couldn't help but notice that, as is her passive-aggressive way, she has refused to answer the questions that you re-stated in Post #230. Odds are quite high that she never will.
 
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