Big night for Democrats!

[TOP]

You would think someone else would notice that Biden was not running, and try to get the Democratic nomination. trump has real challengers, Biden has none.

It's pretty hard to run when you can barely walk... Pamela doesn't insist he is alive however...lol

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

If Biden was as weak as Top claims, the Democratic field would be thick with real challengers. There are no real challengers. Instead, there are an huge number of early, enthusiastic endorsements.

The real world is very different than Top's fantasy world.

I see that Biden was successful in convincing Israel to do daily pauses in military action to allow more noncombatants to get out of harm's way. People who cry about the poor "murdered" fetuses should be pleased that living children might now survive, wouldn't you think? But no, the fussing about Biden continues apace. See the whining, above.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

It's pretty hard to run when you can barely walk... Pamela doesn't insist he is alive however...lol

"Pamela"? Isn't it a bit early for your special beverage, dearie? People who can barely type coherent sentences should probably refrain from pointing at elderly ppl with perceived walking issues. Just sayin'.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Who will the Democrats pursue on the ticket? No one wants fine to run and no one wants Kamala... I would love a link to the huge list of enthusiastic endorsers

Who is fine? Oh, never mind. I see you accidentally spilled the vodka again... right into your OJ.

 

[Walt]

Who will the Democrats pursue on the ticket?

Usually Presidential candidates pursue the nomination, not the other way around.

No one wants to go up against Biden, because he has a lock on the nomination. trump has a near lock on the nomination, but it is weaker, so he has some competition.

No one wants fine to run and no one wants Kamala.

And yet, no one wants to run against Biden?

I would love a link to the huge list of enthusiastic endorsers

I do not think the AFL-CIO, and the UFW have ever endorsed anyone this early. They have previously waited to see who the nominee is.

Almost all the Democrats have endorsed Biden. It is about the level of endorsement we saw for Obama's reelection, and a little more than Clinton's reelection. They have come earlier than either Obama or Clinton got, because Democrats want to fall behind a single candidate early to defeat trump.

https://aflcio.org/press/releases/afl-cio-votes-endorse-president-biden-re-election
https://apnews.com/article/biden-fa...labor-issues-b3259c0bfaede763c122e53c505ffa82
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Joe_Biden_2024_presidential_campaign_primary_endorsements

 

[TOP]

Usually Presidential candidates pursue the nomination, not the other way around.

No one wants to go up against Biden, because he has a lock on the nomination. trump has a near lock on the nomination, but it is weaker, so he has some competition.



And yet, no one wants to run against Biden?



I do not think the AFL-CIO, and the UFW have ever endorsed anyone this early. They have previously waited to see who the nominee is.

Almost all the Democrats have endorsed Biden. It is about the level of endorsement we saw for Obama's reelection, and a little more than Clinton's reelection. They have come earlier than either Obama or Clinton got, because Democrats want to fall behind a single candidate early to defeat trump.

https://aflcio.org/press/releases/afl-cio-votes-endorse-president-biden-re-election
https://apnews.com/article/biden-fa...labor-issues-b3259c0bfaede763c122e53c505ffa82
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Joe_Biden_2024_presidential_campaign_primary_endorsements

Everyone is encouraging Biden to step aside for good reason.... no one could possibly want four more years of that... will be lucky if we get through this term with no more damage than is already been done it will take decades to heal the damage that's taken place...

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Usually Presidential candidates pursue the nomination, not the other way around.

No one wants to go up against Biden, because he has a lock on the nomination. trump has a near lock on the nomination, but it is weaker, so he has some competition.



And yet, no one wants to run against Biden?



I do not think the AFL-CIO, and the UFW have ever endorsed anyone this early. They have previously waited to see who the nominee is.

Almost all the Democrats have endorsed Biden. It is about the level of endorsement we saw for Obama's reelection, and a little more than Clinton's reelection. They have come earlier than either Obama or Clinton got, because Democrats want to fall behind a single candidate early to defeat trump.

https://aflcio.org/press/releases/afl-cio-votes-endorse-president-biden-re-election
https://apnews.com/article/biden-fa...labor-issues-b3259c0bfaede763c122e53c505ffa82
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Joe_Biden_2024_presidential_campaign_primary_endorsements

It's very kind of you to give the angry bitter old shut-in such nice attention. Notice the switch from the abortion issue, where she was soundly defeated, to Big Bad Biden? You just demolished that trope, too. Nice going!

BTW your "tribute thread" just reached 75,000 posts -- the most in JPP's long history! Congrats! It's really turned into a pleasant thread with pleasant chit-chat. Thanks for creating it.

 

[Walt]

Of course. And ditto for contraception. If you're slutty enough to have unmarried sex and get pregnant in the first place, don't expect US to pay for your doctor visits. lol

Exactly, Republicans often oppose any form of contraception to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place.

 

[TOP]

There's no lack of prenatal care for those who are not going to terminate their child... in fact the mention of prenatal care reinforces the fact that once a pregnancy is confirmed it is a confirmation of a child that deserves and requires care prior to its birth....so indeed... anabortion destroys that child...

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Everyone is encouraging Biden to step aside for good reason.... no one could possibly want four more years of that... will be lucky if we get through this term with no more damage than is already been done it will take decades to heal the damage that's taken place...

Who is "everyone," other than you Trumptards who are deeply concerned that "Sleepy Joe" is gonna kick the Toadstool's flabby orange ass again? What "damage"? Strong economy? Respect of our allies and enemies alike? Peace? Prosperity? Nearly-full employment?

 

[Walt]

It's pretty hard to run when you can barely walk... Pamela doesn't insist he is alive however...lol

trump is the one who cannot walk a hundred feet, and needs help walking down a gentle ramp.

The fact is that Biden, and trump will be the nominees. Biden is more certain than trump. Anyone who denies that is not working in reality.

 

[TOP]

Thanks for pulling the trigger, Walt...

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Exactly, Republicans often oppose any form of contraception to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place.

You are correct. The British paper The Guardian had a good article about Mike Johnson, the new speaker, last week. He once served as an attorney for a RW Xtian group that was instrumental in getting SCOTUS to reverse Roe v Wade. Their next objective is to ban contraceptives.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

There's no lack of prenatal care for those who are not going to terminate their child... in fact the mention of prenatal care reinforces the fact that once a pregnancy is confirmed it is a confirmation of a child that deserves and requires care prior to its birth....so indeed... anabortion destroys that child...

Ah, so you admit to reading all my posts despite your pretense otherwise. Of course, we already knew that since a day doesn't pass that you don't mention *something* I've said, eh?

Your logic is very bizarre. Can you also explain what "anabortion" is? "A" or "an" before a word usually indicates the opposite or lack of; i.e. "anaerobic" or "atheist." Things are not going so well for you today, are they? Maybe you should finish your special beverage and go take a nap.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

There's no lack of prenatal care for those who are not going to terminate their child... in fact the mention of prenatal care reinforces the fact that once a pregnancy is confirmed it is a confirmation of a child that deserves and requires care prior to its birth....so indeed... an abortion destroys that child...

To his/her benefit or detriment, TOP?

You really believe that miserable lives are worth living--that's my take.
Life has absolute vale.
Qualitative factors don't matter.

If you're burdened with certain religious beliefs,
or even if you're not,
you are certainly entitled to feel that way.

This is not what anybody is holding against you.

What right you have to try to codify those beliefs into the law
and impose them on others
is what detractors will question.

I go back to my original premise.

Liberals are not forcing conservative women to have abortions.

Perhaps angry extremists like myself might consider that,
but there aren't nearly enough of us overpopulation claimers
to be a threat.

The inverse is not true.
Conservative are the one seeking to coerce.

Then, they have the effrontery to say that big government should be less intrusive.

 

[Walt]

Everyone is encouraging Biden to step aside for good reason.

By "everyone" you mean no one? There is literally no one running against Biden for the nomination.

We need to remember how delusional you are on this topic when you speak of other topics.

 

[TOP]

trump is the one who cannot walk a hundred feet, and needs help walking down a gentle ramp.

The fact is that Biden, and trump will be the nominees. Biden is more certain than trump. Anyone who denies that is not working in reality.

You're simply wrong... not surprising.... perhaps you should pay more attention to what Democrats... and the rest of America and the world... are advising him to do... he's a danger to everyone but most concerningly himself... you have to know when to fold them...

 

[Walt]

You are correct. The British paper The Guardian had a good article about Mike Johnson, the new speaker, last week. He once served as an attorney for a RW Xtian group that was instrumental in getting SCOTUS to reverse Roe v Wade. Their next objective is to ban contraceptives.

Banning abortion is the first step for the Republicans banning contraceptives.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Banning abortion is the first step for the Republicans banning contraceptives.

Yep. They believe in government so small that it fits in your uterus.

 

[TOP]

To his/her benefit or detriment, TOP?

You really believe that miserable lives are worth living--that's my take.
Life has absolute vale.
Qualitative factors don't matter.

If you're burdened with certain religious beliefs,
or even if you're not,
you are certainly entitled to feel that way.

This is not what anybody is holding against you.

What right you have to try to codify those beliefs into the law
and impose them on others
is what detractors will question.

I go back to my original premise.

Liberals are not forcing conservative women to have abortions.

Perhaps angry extremists like myself might consider that,
but there aren't nearly enough of us overpopulation claimers
to be a threat.

The inverse is not true.
Conservative are the one seeking to coerce.

Then, they have the effrontery to say that big government should be less intrusive.

there is no guarantee for any of the lives that are created... I suppose you are correct in that a baby doesn't have much of a chance if the motherdefides to end his or her life because it would interfere with vacation plans or a promotion... or if the baby is a girl instead of a boy... but if that was the attitude of the mother perhaps she should have been a little more careful and not created the child to begin with... I'm not forcing my beliefs on anyone... and putting restrictions on abortions is simply a way to encourage people to be more responsible... I'm not sure why you have a problem with that or why anyone does?