TRUMP: “I will also make it a personal mission to completely eradicate...”

[martin]

If you had an IQ, you would know that Trumps rhetoric is intended to trigger dishonest, low IQ morons who voted for an idiot like Biden.

If you had an IQ, you would know that Biden is what morons on the left claim about Trump. But alas, Biden voters are the definition of moron and are A OK with authoritarianism and Marxist ideologues as long as they have a "D" next to their name.

You're a waste of time but I'll answer this anyway. An asshole employs his rhetoric to trigger people; it's one of the last things a President or aspiring President does unless he too is an asshole.

 

[TOP]

Not without massive inflation.

it does not matter how things ran in the past, as we do not live in the past and you CANNOT simply say 'people were happy to pick veggies in the field in the past and thus they MUST do it now'.

if you are going to entice young people to do the jobs illegals do currently you simply will have to pay a LOT more. And they still may not want to do it.

Southern States and Republi'cans' have been leading the way in dismantling child labor and safety laws in an attempt to get more people under the age of 18 into the work force thinking they will do this work for less money. Are you ok with that as a solution and way to fill the void?

Of course it matters what happened in the past... no one is going to force anyone to do anything it's simply time to get some work ethic back... I'm not sure why you have a problem with that but you're willing to embrace and enable illegal and unethical things taking place...( What were your first two jobs? I bet you're not doing either these days...)

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

I can agree there could be some work ethic benefits but do you think you can force younger people to jump in and fill that labor void if you suddenly throw millions out of the farming, hotel and resort cleaning, kitchen dishwasher and other jobs, that the undocumented tend to fill?

And if you cannot 'force' them, then what? Just let all those industries disappear in America? Or force wages way up to entice them thus causing massive inflation and other big problems?

I am trying to get one Magat to show they think beyond the surface and just reactionary positions and that they understand there is cause and effect to these actions if taken.

That is far too complex for the twat-tard to grasp and respond to. Wait for this: Instead of answering your direct questions, she'll ask you questions. She doesn't do answers, because then she'd have to take a stand.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

So you're saying that America can't run without thousands of people living and working here illegally? Doing the menial tasks? How have we managed in the past? What jobs did you have as a young person?

I predicted this.

So did you work on a farm picking crops as a kid? Clean hotel rooms? Mow yards and do landscaping labor? Put roofs on in July, or carry heavy construction materials here and there?

Didn't think so.

 

[QP!]

Of course it matters what happened in the past... no one is going to force anyone to do anything it's simply time to get some work ethic back... I'm not sure why you have a problem with that but you're willing to embrace and enable illegal and unethical things taking place...( What were your first two jobs? I bet you're not doing either these days...)

Every generation complains about the prior generations work ethic and that is fine.

I have no issue with your DESIRE to see work ethic back, and that is not what i am asking.

I am saying if you could get rid of every illegal/migrant currently doing these menial labor jobs and then you say to the young people 'time to get work ethic and jump in young people and take those jobs' and when they say 'NO', what are you going to do?

Do you suggest passing laws to force them or jail them? Or when they say no, do you just accept then that all those industries close? Or do we raise pay rates up and up, causing significant inflation, until people are enticed to do those jobs?

Sitting back and simply saying words like 'they SHOULD have better work ethics and jump in and do them' does nothing to address the problem.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Not without massive inflation.

it does not matter how things ran in the past, as we do not live in the past and you CANNOT simply say 'people were happy to pick veggies in the field in the past and thus they MUST do it now'.

if you are going to entice young people to do the jobs illegals do currently you simply will have to pay a LOT more. And they still may not want to do it.

Southern States and Republi'cans' have been leading the way in dismantling child labor and safety laws in an attempt to get more people under the age of 18 into the work force thinking they will do this work for less money. Are you ok with that as a solution and way to fill the void?

You might want to use smaller words, and explain the connection between farmers having to pay higher wages and then passing the costs along to her.

In the past that conservatards are so fond of, farm laborers tended to be African Americans rather than Hispanics, exc. in areas close to the border where there was a steady supply of people allowed to cross the border to work. White farm and hospitality workers were poor, uneducated (i.e. h.s. dropouts) and/or below average in intelligence. Maybe the haters would prefer that we mine the sheltered workshops and group homes for those with cognitive impairments, and put them to work in our fields and hotels and landscapes so we wouldn't have those icky brown "illegals" coming here?

 

[TOP]

Every generation complains about the prior generations work ethic and that is fine.

I have no issue with your DESIRE to see work ethic back, and that is not what i am asking.

I am saying if you could get rid of every illegal/migrant currently doing these menial labor jobs and then you say to the young people 'time to get work ethic and jump in young people and take those jobs' and when they say 'NO', what are you going to do?

Do you suggest passing laws to force them or jail them? Or when they say no, do you just accept then that all those industries close? Or do we raise pay rates up and up, causing significant inflation, until people are enticed to do those jobs?

Sitting back and simply saying words like 'they SHOULD have better work ethics and jump in and do them' does nothing to address the problem.

there are ways to hire undocumented people to do seasonal jobs that doesn't mean they have to reside in the country illegally year-round... nothing wrong with having apprenticeships and work requirements for young people... some high schools have them as requirements now..
Someone with no training should have no problem putting in some time doing a menial job or two ..we all did...right?
What a shame that you and so many others don't want this country to thrive...

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

there are ways to hire undocumented people to do seasonal jobs that doesn't mean they have to reside in the country illegally year-round... nothing wrong with having apprenticeships and work requirements for young people... some high schools have them as requirements now..
Someone with no training should have no problem putting in some time doing a menial job or two ..we all did...right?
What a shame that you and so many others don't want this country to thrive...

There are no ways to hire "undocumented people" legally. Ask your pretend lawyer sister.

Can you explain how undocumented workers doing the menial jobs that we don't have people able or willing to do is harming the country? I mean, besides those horror stories that you get from Daily Stormer and Newsmax and Text Drivers are Killers.

Do you think that American citizens should be expected to work for less than minimum wage? If so, are you willing to pay much, much more for groceries, meat, restaurant meals, hotel rooms, home repairs, and so on? I realize those latter things are rhetorical in your case, but for most of us they are not.

 

[QP!]

there are ways to hire undocumented people to do seasonal jobs that doesn't mean they have to reside in the country illegally year-round... nothing wrong with having apprenticeships and work requirements for young people... some high schools have them as requirements now..
Someone with no training should have no problem putting in some time doing a menial job or two ..we all did...right?
What a shame that you and so many others don't want this country to thrive...

You continue to say stupid things and that is because you are stupid.

Again i am fine with every young person doing the most menial jobs and developing a better work ethic than all prior generations. That is not the issue. The issue is how do we FORCE them when they do not share that desire.

Us saying 'it would be better if they did' does not mean they will do it.

And no undocumented people cannot do seasonal jobs, unless you are saying 'under the table' (ie illegal) which means you support the status quo.

Who said apprenticeships are bad or wrong? If they offered and a kid wants to do them, great. But no you cannot 'require' young people to do any work they do not want to, even in high schools. It is offered and many like it but you cannot FORCE it.

And i do want this country to thrive, i just do not think magical thinking ('i want the kids to have better work ethic and go into farmers fields') is the same as making it happen and actually HELPING America thrive.

But you prove what i already know. Magat conserva'tards' have no plan or understanding of the problems they would create. They just act on emotion without a single thought to plan B, of 'if no one then does those jobs...what next?'

 

[TOP]

You continue to say stupid things and that is because you are stupid.

Again i am fine with every young person doing the most menial jobs and developing a better work ethic than all prior generations. That is not the issue. The issue is how do we FORCE them when they do not share that desire.

Us saying 'it would be better if they did' does not mean they will do it.

And no undocumented people cannot do seasonal jobs, unless you are saying 'under the table' (ie illegal) which means you support the status quo.

Who said apprenticeships are bad or wrong? If they offered and a kid wants to do them, great. But no you cannot 'require' young people to do any work they do not want to, even in high schools. It is offered and many like it but you cannot FORCE it.

And i do want this country to thrive, i just do not think magical thinking ('i want the kids to have better work ethic and go into farmers fields') is the same as making it happen and actually HELPING America thrive.

But you prove what i already know. Magat conserva'tards' have no plan or understanding of the problems they would create. They just act on emotion without a single thought to plan B, of 'if no one then does those jobs...what next?'

Where did I ever mention forcing anyone to do anything? I'm not sure why you keep saying that... or why you keep suggesting that there's no way to make changes to the workforce .. and if you don't think that's possible then you don't want America to thrive... we certainly aren't now... the name calling is priceless though... just when I think we can have a civil conversation.... you give up I understand.... I also understand that you chose not to list the first two jobs you had... and just FYI work study is a graduation requirement in a lot of high schools these days.. yes a graduation requirement... long overdue... vocational training and life skills should also be mandatory....

 

[Truth Detector]

The irony is painful.

Indeed, it is. It's your middle name halfwit.

 

[Truth Detector]

You'd make a good Nazi.

You are a dumb moron.

 

[Truth Detector]

You need to get out more, Trump Dummy. Ask your ward nurse for an escort into the sunshine.

You need a padded cell.

 

[Truth Detector]

You'd make a good Nazi.

Watching him try to click his heels using a walker would be fun.

Priceless. Dumbest and Dumb Fuck in an echo chamber.

 

[Truth Detector]

Looks like you hit a nerve with Mr. Tiny Penis. Probably interrupted his day drinking for a few minutes. Watch that, he obviously can get violent and can be a hazard to the other inmates in the "home".

LOL. It's fun to watch while at the same time being so tragically stupid. But alas, stupid people don't think they're morons. They think bad orange man is going to eradicate them.

 

[Truth Detector]

You're a waste of time

You define waste of time halfwit.

but I'll answer this anyway. An asshole employs his rhetoric to trigger people; it's one of the last things a President or aspiring President does unless he too is an asshole.

True, we see that from Biden all the time. We see it from leftist dimwits like you too.

 

[Truth Detector]

Where did I ever mention forcing anyone to do anything? I'm not sure why you keep saying that... or why you keep suggesting that there's no way to make changes to the workforce .. and if you don't think that's possible then you don't want America to thrive... we certainly aren't now... the name calling is priceless though... just when I think we can have a civil conversation.... you give up I understand.... I also understand that you chose not to list the first two jobs you had... and just FYI work study is a graduation requirement in a lot of high schools these days.. yes a graduation requirement... long overdue... vocational training and life skills should also be mandatory....

Never argue with a lying leftist dumbass. It's more productive to just point at lying leftist dumbasses and laugh. Trust me on this.

 

[Into the Night]

Regulated capitalism.

Capitalism can't be regulated.

 

[Into the Night]

Exactly. Socialism under Capitalism. A system that has worked so well.

Socialism is not under or over capitalism.

 

[Into the Night]

People are forgetting the most important point about the OP: Trump is lying.

That statement sounds like so many he has made. He was going to replace Obamacare w/ a BETTER plan that covered EVERY American, "quickly and easily." He was going to eliminate the U.S. Debt by his 2nd term.

This is what he does. In a nutshell, he just says shit.

There already was a better plan than Obamacare before Obamacare.

Capitalism.

Trump never said he was going to eliminate US debt. That is not possible now.