Small Business plus Empathy

CaptBillyTheKid said:
Yes it was, my mistake. However that came from one of your posts, and I forgot about it in post #30. Technically I never typed it.
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Ahhh. OK. Sometimes this way of communicating gets confusing.

That's why I never use those IM programs. More than once two messages would cross and then I'd spend the next 15 minutes explaining what I said and considering I type with two fingers it wasn't such a good time. :lol:

After a few times I told my friends email only unless someone died AND I was in their will!
 
apple0154 said:
Ahhh. OK. Sometimes this way of communicating gets confusing.

That's why I never use those IM programs. More than once two messages would cross and then I'd spend the next 15 minutes explaining what I said and considering I type with two fingers it wasn't such a good time. :lol:

After a few times I told my friends email only unless someone died AND I was in their will!
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I feel ya. Being a stickler for punctuation, that damned apostrophe is too close to the enter key. So I'll be typing something and hit enter prematurely and have to start all over again. Damn shitty key board design.
 
APple flavored douche, small businesses account for 70% of our economy. You just are biased towards big business because they have more fascist tendencies, and you love fascism.
 
AssHatZombie said:
APple flavored douche, small businesses account for 70% of our economy. You just are biased towards big business because they have more fascist tendencies, and you love fascism.
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I like not getting ripped off by some incompetent, greedy individual who thinks a business card qualifies them as a professional. Again, just to be clear, I'm talking about very small businesses with a handful or less of employees.

Even the procedures/rules governing small businesses/companies are suspect. For example, many companies are LLC or Ltd. companies. What that does is limit the liability of a company.

So, a guy opens a business like, say, installing windows. He makes his money through shoddy work, year after year, using that money to pay his home mortgage. When customers have a problem the company declares bankruptcy. The "company" has no money but the money the customers paid the owner/operator is in the value of his home. Why should his home be protected? If the money he made from the business, the money he collected from customers is in the value of his home why can't the customers have access to that money or make it compulsory for small businesses to carry sufficient insurance to cover possible claims?

Check out this video, http://video.pbs.org/video/1302794657/, especially between 38:00 and 36:00 minutes. (The timer counts backwards.) While dealing with large companies the point is the "climate" was Greenspan didn't believe there should be laws against fraud. The market would look after it.

That mentality often functions in small business. A person who charges to fix a roof and the roof leaks due to faulty/sloppy installation has committed fraud. They cheated the home owner out of money.

At least with a large home-improvement company one can sue and get the repairs done. The small company simply goes out of business.

Here's a true story. A few years ago the local dairy bar was purchased by a couple who had recently immigrated. I went in and ordered a milkshake. The guy put some soft ice cream in the metal container, added some milk and syrup and then proceeded to add two ice cubes. I asked him why he was adding ice cubes.

He showed me the directions for making a milkshake. Near the end it was typed "add two scoops of hard ice" which he thought meant two ice cubes. The problem was the word "cream" was missing on the directions. It should have read "add two scoops of hard ice cream."

While that was no big deal my point is people can buy or open a business without having the slightest idea about the business and, furthermore, the government offers grants and other incentives to do so. Do we need the government encouraging people like that to open businesses?

If the government is going to cater to small business let the government evaluate ones potential to be a business owner. Over 1/2 of new businesses die within five years. It is a shameful waste of money not to mention the customers who are ripped off in the process.

As a society are we better off giving breaks/incentives to people to start a company offering inferior workmanship and cheating customers or using that money for something else? Surely the least we can do is provide protection for the unwitting customers who are cheated.

However, as the video shows, if financial fraud keeps the ball rolling, so be it.
 
apple0154 said:
I like not getting ripped off by some incompetent, greedy individual who thinks a business card qualifies them as a professional. Again, just to be clear, I'm talking about very small businesses with a handful or less of employees.

Even the procedures/rules governing small businesses/companies are suspect. For example, many companies are LLC or Ltd. companies. What that does is limit the liability of a company.

So, a guy opens a business like, say, installing windows. He makes his money through shoddy work, year after year, using that money to pay his home mortgage. When customers have a problem the company declares bankruptcy. The "company" has no money but the money the customers paid the owner/operator is in the value of his home. Why should his home be protected? If the money he made from the business, the money he collected from customers is in the value of his home why can't the customers have access to that money or make it compulsory for small businesses to carry sufficient insurance to cover possible claims?

Check out this video, http://video.pbs.org/video/1302794657/, especially between 38:00 and 36:00 minutes. (The timer counts backwards.) While dealing with large companies the point is the "climate" was Greenspan didn't believe there should be laws against fraud. The market would look after it.

That mentality often functions in small business. A person who charges to fix a roof and the roof leaks due to faulty/sloppy installation has committed fraud. They cheated the home owner out of money.

At least with a large home-improvement company one can sue and get the repairs done. The small company simply goes out of business.

Here's a true story. A few years ago the local dairy bar was purchased by a couple who had recently immigrated. I went in and ordered a milkshake. The guy put some soft ice cream in the metal container, added some milk and syrup and then proceeded to add two ice cubes. I asked him why he was adding ice cubes.

He showed me the directions for making a milkshake. Near the end it was typed "add two scoops of hard ice" which he thought meant two ice cubes. The problem was the word "cream" was missing on the directions. It should have read "add two scoops of hard ice cream."

While that was no big deal my point is people can buy or open a business without having the slightest idea about the business and, furthermore, the government offers grants and other incentives to do so. Do we need the government encouraging people like that to open businesses?

If the government is going to cater to small business let the government evaluate ones potential to be a business owner. Over 1/2 of new businesses die within five years. It is a shameful waste of money not to mention the customers who are ripped off in the process.

As a society are we better off giving breaks/incentives to people to start a company offering inferior workmanship and cheating customers or using that money for something else? Surely the least we can do is provide protection for the unwitting customers who are cheated.

However, as the video shows, if financial fraud keeps the ball rolling, so be it.
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Your comments are just blatant slanderous bias, bereft of credibility, indicating your fascist and anti-individual nature.
 
I'm not going to argue with him, Asshat. The reality is that if his party picks up this as a plank on their platform all they'll be handed is their pink slip.
 
Damocles said:
I'm not going to argue with him, Asshat. The reality is that if his party picks up this as a plank on their platform all they'll be handed is their pink slip.
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I'm sure they'll quietly deal with it. After all, investing in something that has over a 50% failure rate after five years is not exactly wise budgeting.
 
Damocles said:
It just makes me happy that people in that party are ridiculous enough to think that attacking 70% of the economy is a "good" idea.
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Let's quantify here. I'm not talking about companies that employ 100 people which are considered "small" businesses. I'm talking about the average Joe who either can't hold a job or imagines he's going to get rich ripping off the unsuspecting.

I'm talking about some dude who works under the table and for the customers who demand a bill he wants to write off his gas and "cash for clunkers" deprecation to those who set up an office at home and sell one quart of floor soap and writes off part of the household expenses such as heating/cooling and taxes as operating expenses.

On the one hand they take money by way of grants and on the other hand cheat society by avoiding paying their fair share of taxes. Rather than retrain a guy and/or temporarily support him we encourage one to go out there and hustle people aiding and abetting the most dubious of business practices.

And we wonder why things are the way they are. :chesh:
 
apple0154 said:
Let's quantify here. I'm not talking about companies that employ 100 people which are considered "small" businesses. I'm talking about the average Joe who either can't hold a job or imagines he's going to get rich ripping off the unsuspecting.

I'm talking about some dude who works under the table and for the customers who demand a bill he wants to write off his gas and "cash for clunkers" deprecation to those who set up an office at home and sell one quart of floor soap and writes off part of the household expenses such as heating/cooling and taxes as operating expenses.

On the one hand they take money by way of grants and on the other hand cheat society by avoiding paying their fair share of taxes. Rather than retrain a guy and/or temporarily support him we encourage one to go out there and hustle people aiding and abetting the most dubious of business practices.

And we wonder why things are the way they are. :chesh:
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Again, your idiotic position is just a negative and unwarranted smear.
 
Damocles said:
I'm not going to argue with him, Asshat. The reality is that if his party picks up this as a plank on their platform all they'll be handed is their pink slip.
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OH, he'll be alright; just as soon as he accepts the fact that he hitched his wagon to a falling star and it's crashed.

A little therapy and he'll be back to normal.
Well, as normal as he ever was. :cof1:
 
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