Elon Musk asks -No victims in the trump fraud case so who gets the $354 million??

Exactly. Lower interest for Trump = higher interest for someone else. The people of New York were defrauded.

What about the money trump brought into the state by building these properties with the money he borrowed.? You can argue trump made the people of NY richer.
 
The General Fund of New York State. How the fuck does Elon Musk not know that. Goddamn, this fucking abject stupidity is inexcusable.

This is a civil case, not a criminal case, you moron. In a criminal case, yes , the fines go to the state. In a civil case the money goes to the victims. But there aren't any.
 
It is worth reminding everyone that this was a suit brought for equitable relief. The money damages are part of that equitable relief, not a legal remedy for damages. Thus, no damages need to be proved, and no jury trial would have been granted, even if requested. It is a legal distinction I'm sure TDAK has no fucking clue about.
 
Every time someone successfully does it, without killing anyone or causing any property damage, it's a victimless crime. Do you see the point I'm making you stupid fuck?

TDAK is a moron. It's just painful to read his posts, which is why he is on ignore for me. Financial fraud impacts hundreds of thousands every year, but TDAK claims it's a victimless crime. See, he is talking about a specific instance vs. an overall practice. If Trump drove drunk but made it home, he would claim no crime was committed because there was no victim. He is that fucking stupid.
 
I think they will hide what happened to the money very carefully, and lie when ever asked.

But after years, if we have the fortitude to keep asking and investigating, it will turn out that the money was divided three ways: The Corrupt Judge and his family, The prosecuting lawyers, The DNC coffers.

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I think they will hide what happened to the money very carefully, and lie when ever asked.

But after years, if we have the fortitude to keep asking and investigating, it will turn out that the money was divided three ways: The Corrupt Judge and his family, The prosecuting lawyers, The DNC coffers.

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Congrats, you just won the stupidest fucking post of the week. And it's only Wednesday. Well done.
 
*chuckle...

My thinks Concart objects too much... must have hit really close to the truth.

There are some people on this forum who seem to think that dirty name calling is debate.

Sad.
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*chuckle...

My thinks Concart objects too much... must have hit really close to the truth.

There are some people on this forum who seem to think that dirty name calling is debate.

Sad.
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Okay, let's debate, shall we. Let's break down your post. Tell me, who is 'we'. Who is 'they', and why do you believe that the fines will not be appropriated based on statute. Defend your post. Let's debate.

ROTFLMFAO!!!
 
Every time someone successfully does it, without killing anyone or causing any property damage, it's a victimless crime. Do you see the point I'm making you stupid fuck?

HAHAHAHA. Hear that everybody? This moron says if someone throws a bomb into a restaurant and it doesn't go off, then it's a victimless crime and the bomber should not be charged with anything!!!
 
Okay, let's debate, shall we. Let's break down your post. Tell me, who is 'we'. Who is 'they', and why do you believe that the fines will not be appropriated based on statute. Defend your post. Let's debate.

ROTFLMFAO!!!

<crickets>

Didn't think so.
 
As has been explained to you umpteen times, the State of New York will collect the penalty, who gets the money when you are fined for a speeding ticket, same thing

And for the umpteenth time that's asinine and not then same at all. The state of New York wasn't affected by Trump's supposed fraud. We all know you assholes want to destroy Trump not just politically but socioeconomically as well so why don't you maggots just fess up and admit it? Instead we have to listen to you mongrels tell us how you care about democracy and "no one is above the law" (unless they have a D after their names) when nothing could be further than the truth. As evil as you are id respect you more for being honest but evil can't be honest can it?
 
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