Federal judge rules on new Arizona voting laws requiring proof of citizenship

[RB 60]

The issue, of course, is that there is no free national citizenship ID. Requiring someone to purchase a passport to vote is a clear violation of the 15th amendment. A drivers license establishes citizenship in the jurisdiction in which you are voting. Arizona cannot require any other ID. It's just more stupidity addressing a non-existent problem.

States issue driver’s licenses under the constitutional authority of the 10th Amendment. Congress enacted Real ID in 2005, creating standards for state-issued driver’s licenses, including evidence of lawful status. This brief provides a summary of state legislation authorizing driver’s licenses or authorization cards for unauthorized immigrants. Nineteen states and the District of Columbia have enacted laws to allow unauthorized immigrants to obtain driver’s licenses. These states—California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, Virginia and Washington—issue a license if an applicant provides certain documentation, such as a foreign birth certificate, foreign passport, or consular card and evidence of current residency in the state.

In 2022, Rhode Island enacted legislation extending driver’s licenses and identification cards to those without proof of lawful presence (SB 2006/HB 7939). In addition to Rhode Island, the Massachusetts legislature overrode the Governor’s veto of their bill allowing those without proof of lawful presence to obtain driver’s licenses (SB 4822/HB 4805). In the 2022 midterm election, Massachusetts voters were asked via ballot measure (Q4) whether the state should keep or repeal the new immigrant driver’s license law, and voters ultimately elected to uphold it.

In 2023, Minnesota became the most recent state to enact legislation allowing individuals to get driver’s licenses without proof of lawful presence (HB 4/SB 27).

https://www.ncsl.org/immigration/states-offering-drivers-licenses-to-immigrants



Illegals can vote (and obviously do). You are incorrect. Again.

 

[Into the Night]

But states cannot require people to prove their citizenship before they register.

YES THEY CAN!

As a result, many non-citizens are registered voters.

Then those records should be expunged.

This is a problem because when called for jury duty and told citizenship is a requirement to serve on a jury, declare that they are not citizens (federal court study) and cannot serve.

Then expung the registration. They are no longer registered to vote automatically by admitting their fraud in open court.

 

[martin]

purchase a passport to vote is a clear violation of the 15th amendment.....WRONG!!


Voter ID requirements
Each state sets its own voter ID rules.

Your state may require you to show a photo ID like a driver's license, state ID, or passport.

https://www.usa.gov/voter-id




So u stupid son of a goddamn nasty slut with herpes

AZ can require a passport

Those are alternative requirements. A problem for city residents is many don't drive.

 

[Flash]

YES THEY CAN!

Nope. States cannot require proof of citizenship. If they have evidence the person is not a citizen, they can deny the registration. AZ tried a law requiring that and the court struck it down because it violates the Voting Rights Act.

When I was teaching I would give extra credit for showing me a valid voter registration card. Two Asian sisters told me they were not citizens and could not register. I told them we would work something else out. Later, they both showed me valid registration certificates.

All they had to do was check the box that said "U. S. Citizen."

 

[Into the Night]

Nope. States cannot require proof of citizenship.

YES THEY CAN!

If they have evidence the person is not a citizen, they can deny the registration.

WRONG. They can require proof of citizenship.

AZ tried a law requiring that and the court struck it down because it violates the Voting Rights Act.

Blatant lie. The Voting Rights Act does NOT prevent a State from requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote!

When I was teaching I would give extra credit for showing me a valid voter registration card.

Extra credit for being a citizen? So you are pushing fraud.

Two Asian sisters told me they were not citizens and could not register. I told them we would work something else out. Later, they both showed me valid registration certificates.

So they committed fraud (and a felony) because you gave extra credit for it.

All they had to do was check the box that said "U. S. Citizen."

That's fraud, jackass. It's a felony.

 

[Into the Night]

Those are alternative requirements. A problem for city residents is many don't drive.

AZ does not require a passport (though it is accepted as proof of citizenship). AZ law specifies what they require as proof of citizenship. It can be a RealID AZ driver's license (where you had to show proof of citizenship to obtain). If you can't prove it there, you get a regular driver's license without RealID (a non-enhanced license).

 

[RB 60]

So they committed fraud (and a felony) because you gave extra credit for it.

That's fraud, jackass. It's a felony.

Illegals don't care if they break our laws, they're breaking the law just being here.

 

[RB 60]

Those are alternative requirements. A problem for city residents is many don't drive.

Then let them get a voter ID if they don't drive. That should be much easier than getting a driver's license.

 

[Concart]

States issue driver’s licenses under the constitutional authority of the 10th Amendment. Congress enacted Real ID in 2005, creating standards for state-issued driver’s licenses, including evidence of lawful status. This brief provides a summary of state legislation authorizing driver’s licenses or authorization cards for unauthorized immigrants. Nineteen states and the District of Columbia have enacted laws to allow unauthorized immigrants to obtain driver’s licenses. These states—California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, Virginia and Washington—issue a license if an applicant provides certain documentation, such as a foreign birth certificate, foreign passport, or consular card and evidence of current residency in the state.

In 2022, Rhode Island enacted legislation extending driver’s licenses and identification cards to those without proof of lawful presence (SB 2006/HB 7939). In addition to Rhode Island, the Massachusetts legislature overrode the Governor’s veto of their bill allowing those without proof of lawful presence to obtain driver’s licenses (SB 4822/HB 4805). In the 2022 midterm election, Massachusetts voters were asked via ballot measure (Q4) whether the state should keep or repeal the new immigrant driver’s license law, and voters ultimately elected to uphold it.

In 2023, Minnesota became the most recent state to enact legislation allowing individuals to get driver’s licenses without proof of lawful presence (HB 4/SB 27).

https://www.ncsl.org/immigration/states-offering-drivers-licenses-to-immigrants



Illegals can vote (and obviously do). You are incorrect. Again.

Wow the point went right over your head. It’s sublime. You cannot require someone to purchase a passport to vote. Unless you can find some other way for someone to establish UNITED STATES CITIZENSHIP you cannot require that proof. Get it or do I have to draw you a little picture?

Non citizens cannot vote. It is a felony.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Article 1, Section 4 of the Constitution explains that the States have the primary authority over election administration, the "times, places, and manner of holding elections".

You really need to learn to read entire sentences and then practice comprehension.

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.


The ruling in Arizona states that it is a violation of federal law to require proof of citizenship in the Presidential, USA House and US Senate elections. That means that Arizona somehow has to give different ballots to different citizens depending on what proof they provided. That looks to me like it won't survive an equal protection challenge.

 

[Lionfish]

Non citizens do vote and they do commit felonies.

In some states, Minnesota prime example, where George Soros installed his first secretary of state, Mark Ritchie, Minnesota democrats passed a law where one person can vouch for up to 12 people and they can then be registered at the polls and vote that day. (that has since been pared down to 8)

https://www.amazon.com/stores/Dan McGrath/author/B082J8FG84

 

[Flash]

Illegals don't care if they break our laws, they're breaking the law just being here.

These students were not illegals. They were here legally.

 

[LurchAddams]

Obviously unconstitutional per the 15th amendment.

It takes weeks, sometimes months to get a passport. Poor people don't keep files with their birth certificates. This law does discriminate against poor people and people of color. It will be interesting to see where this goes on appeal.

 

[Flash]

Article 1, Section 4 of the Constitution explains that the States have the primary authority over election administration, the "times, places, and manner of holding elections".

Subject to congressional changes: "The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

 

[Flash]

Extra credit for being a citizen? So you are pushing fraud.

So they committed fraud (and a felony) because you gave extra credit for it.

That's fraud, jackass. It's a felony.

Nope, you idiot. I didn't give credit for citizenship but for being a registered voter. These girls did not vote and were not illegal. I did not encourage them to register.

A person who is not qualified to be a registered voter in Texas simply has their registration canceled. It is not a felony or crime if they don't vote.

 

[jbander]

Federal judge rules on new Arizona voting laws requiring proof of citizenship

A federal judge is upholding new Arizona laws that would require registered voters to provide proof of U.S. citizenship in order for their votes to be counted.


Arizona legislators faced accusations of discrimination when they adopted the laws requiring counties to verify the status of registered voters but, in a ruling Thursday, U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton ruled that such requirements were not discriminatory.

Bolton said the state has an interest in preventing voter fraud and limiting voting to those individuals eligible to vote.

"Considering the evidence as a whole, the court concludes that Arizona’s interests in preventing non-citizens from voting and promoting public confidence in Arizona’s elections outweighs the limited burden voters might encounter when required to provide (documentary proof of citizenship)," the judge wrote.
In the ruling, Bolton clarified one requirement within the laws — asking individuals to include their state or country of birth on a state registration form — would violate the Civil Rights Act and a section of the National Voter Registration Act.

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And liberals go.....but no we are too stupid to get an I.D.

Across the board most voter cheating is done by the right hate party. so no problem. They are scum at this point. They are by far this countries biggest threat and enemy and should be treated as such for the rest of their lives. They sold this country out. To a guy that shits in his pants and sticks like a cesspool.

 

[Into the Night]

Wow the point went right over your head. It’s sublime. You cannot require someone to purchase a passport to vote. Unless you can find some other way for someone to establish UNITED STATES CITIZENSHIP you cannot require that proof. Get it or do I have to draw you a little picture?

Non citizens cannot vote. It is a felony.

GO READ THE AZ LAW! I have already told you this! They do NOT require you to purchase a passport to vote!
They only require you prove your citizenship.

 

[Into the Night]

You really need to learn to read entire sentences and then practice comprehension.

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.


The ruling in Arizona states that it is a violation of federal law to require proof of citizenship in the Presidential, USA House and US Senate elections. That means that Arizona somehow has to give different ballots to different citizens depending on what proof they provided. That looks to me like it won't survive an equal protection challenge.

It is NOT a violation of federal law to require proof of citizenship to vote in a federal election. The ruling SUPPORTS Arizona, Sock. Stop making shit up.

 

[Into the Night]

Non citizens do vote and they do commit felonies.

In some states, Minnesota prime example, where George Soros installed his first secretary of state, Mark Ritchie, Minnesota democrats passed a law where one person can vouch for up to 12 people and they can then be registered at the polls and vote that day. (that has since been pared down to 8)

Which is bullshit. Minnesota should require proof of citizenship like AZ does at the least.

 

[Into the Night]

These students were not illegals. They were here legally.

Illegal immigration is BREAKING THE LAW, dumbass!

Election fraud is BREAKING THE LAW, dumbass...and YOU supported it! You are an accessory to a felony.