CDC now advises people to treat COVID same as the flu and other respiratory illnesses

[Into the Night]

^^^
Lyinfish believes all "companies" follow orders like his Nazi Germany and shouldn't be allowed to run their own companies.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! So you think there are only a dozen companies in the US!

 

[Into the Night]

apparently they are working for big pharma. and you don't even know what big pharma is.

use your fucking eyes and quit being a dumbass.

Government is not working for 'big pharma' (whatever THAT is!). Apparently you have trouble with anatomy.

 

[Into the Night]

At this point U still looking for Dutch to tell the truth is pure comedy.

I know the Sock doesn't tell the truth. I only point that out.

 

[Phyllis Diller]

Government is not working for 'big pharma' (whatever THAT is!). Apparently you have trouble with anatomy.

they are when they're forcing untested products on people and granting corporations blanket immunity for adverse effects!

quit carrying the fascist water, fascist water carrier.

 

[Hawkeye10]

I know the Sock doesn't tell the truth. I only point that out.

You seriously apparently invited Dutch to tell the truth....as if there was any chance that would happen.....thats a problem PAL.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

no thanks.....

Translation: I can't reference the signals I receive through my aluminum beanie.

No shit. I understand, Fredo.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

so you got your links.

now what, dumbass?

You never sent any and Sybil is a 4F due to mental illness and the other links didn't apply.

No worries, Fredo. I understand you are not completely sane yourself plus not very bright, even for a MAGAt.

 

[Lionfish]

I really don't argue with him, I just point out what an idiot he is.

Mr. Tiny Penis being a leftie idiot part is well-known by all of us.

 

[Walt]

All shots are mandatory in the Marine Corps, son.

I can just imagine how Night would burst into tears when the Marine drill sergeant started giving him orders. But, yes, following orders is mandatory in the Marines. If you do not want to follow orders, better avoid the Marines.

 

[Walt]

There were dozens of companies and agencies that required their employees to have their shots or be laid off.

Most states are at-will states, which allow companies to fire you at will. If you do not like that, then get another job.

By the way, it is the Republicans who push at will employment.

 

[Walt]

An airborne virus easily travels six feet.

Covid travels in droplets of water which are airborne. When those droplets dry out, it stops being transmitted. Usually those droplets dry out within six feet.

It travels into every business and every home and is on every surface.

We can look at the transmission patterns and see that is clearly untrue. The way it would usually get into a building is by an infected person entering the building.

No mask will stop it.

Obviously, a mask that completely stopped droplets from entering, or leaving the body would stop Covid. A normal mask would reduce the transmission of Covid.

No treatment will stop it (there is no vaccine in the US).

Virus treatment is notoriously difficult, which is why we are so dependent on vaccines. There are treatments which are moderately successful.

No vaccine will stop it (even if there was one).

Unfortunately, we do not have an 100% effective vaccine against Covid, much like we do not have 100% effective vaccine against influenza.

It's why Bubonic plague (which killed half the population of Europe!) is no longer a significant issue (except among the homeless).
It's why cholera is no longer a significant issue (except among the homeless).

There has not been a major bubonic or cholera outbreak among homeless people.

If a viral infection occurs, and the immune system learns how to fight it off, you are naturally inoculated. It's even better than getting a vaccine. Any further infection is easily handled by the body from that point on. You are 'vaccinated' for the rest of your life.

What makes vaccines better than getting the disease is that getting the disease is a major health risk. The polio vaccine does not cause people to die, like polio does.

You are also mistaken in claiming the immunity lasts for life. Some immunity does last for lifetime, and others last for a lot less long. It depends on the disease. Even with immunity that lasts for a lifetime, there will many times be new strains that get around that.

Covid19 is part of the Covid/SARS series of viruses. It is the mildest variant of that series so far discovered. NONE of the Covid/SARS series of viruses kill.

There are SARS viruses that do not even infect people. Covid killed millions, so is not the most mild.

There ARE, however, some variants of the influenza series of viruses that can kill (usually by inducing a fever too high for the body to withstand). Fortunately, these are pretty rare.

Any influenza virus that can infect humans can kill. They kill about half a million people a year, with between 10,000 and 50,000 of them being in the USA. so not rare at all.

 

[Into the Night]

they are when they're forcing untested products on people and granting corporations blanket immunity for adverse effects!

quit carrying the fascist water, fascist water carrier.

No, they aren't.
I am not a fascist. Stop trying to redefine fascism.

 

[Into the Night]

You never sent any and Sybil is a 4F due to mental illness and the other links didn't apply.

No worries, Fredo. I understand you are not completely sane yourself plus not very bright, even for a MAGAt.

Now you are saying you are 4F?
Sybil didn't send the links. I did.

They show you are a liar, Sock.

 

[Into the Night]

I can just imagine how Night would burst into tears when the Marine drill sergeant started giving him orders. But, yes, following orders is mandatory in the Marines. If you do not want to follow orders, better avoid the Marines.

Obviously, you were never in the military.

 

[Into the Night]

Most states are at-will states, which allow companies to fire you at will. If you do not like that, then get another job.

By the way, it is the Republicans who push at will employment.

I never fired anyone for not getting their Covid treatment (or 'vaccination').
We never had a problem here with it. People didn't work from home either.

 

[Into the Night]

Covid travels in droplets of water which are airborne.

Nope. Covid viruses are airborne. No water needed. Covid19 has been found to survive intact for up to 6 months in bone dry conditions.

When those droplets dry out, it stops being transmitted. Usually those droplets dry out within six feet.

No water needed.

We can look at the transmission patterns and see that is clearly untrue.

You having a problem with multiple personality disorder again, Sock?

The way it would usually get into a building is by an infected person entering the building.

Nope. Any HVAC system can ingest the virus and spread it throughout the building.

Obviously, a mask that completely stopped droplets from entering, or leaving the body would stop Covid.

Masks do not stop a virus. See the N95 specification. Most masks in use didn't even conform to THAT.
They are dust masks.

Paradox M.

A normal mask would reduce the transmission of Covid.

Paradox M.

Virus treatment is notoriously difficult, which is why we are so dependent on vaccines. There are treatments which are moderately successful.

Paradox V.

Unfortunately, we do not have an 100% effective vaccine against Covid,

There is no vaccine for Covid19 in the US.

much like we do not have 100% effective vaccine against influenza.

Which one? There are thousands of variants.

There has not been a major bubonic or cholera outbreak among homeless people.

There certainly is. There is also problems with AIDS, hepatitus, tuberculosus, and of course the damage from the drugs they use.

What makes vaccines better than getting the disease is that getting the disease is a major health risk.

Compositional error fallacy. It depends entirely on the disease.

The polio vaccine does not cause people to die, like polio does.

Polio does not kill. It causes paralysis.
A fellow I know contracted polio from the vaccination.

The best defense against polio is basic sanitation. It is spread through feces contact.

You are also mistaken in claiming the immunity lasts for life.

I'm not talking about immunity. I'm talking about mitigation.

Some immunity does last for lifetime, and others last for a lot less long.

No one is ever immune from any disease, even if they had the vaccine for it.

It depends on the disease.

It does not. You are just clueless.

Even with immunity that lasts for a lifetime, there will many times be new strains that get around that.

No one is ever immune to any disease, even with a vaccination. Vaccinations do not grant immunity. Neither does getting infected and recovering.

There are SARS viruses that do not even infect people. Covid killed millions, so is not the most mild.

No variant of the Covid/SARS series of viruses has ever killed anyone. Covid19 is no exception to that.

Any influenza virus that can infect humans can kill.

Wrong. Most viruses in the influenza series of viruses do not kill. Only a few rare ones discovered can actually kill.

They kill about half a million people a year, with between 10,000 and 50,000 of them being in the USA. so not rare at all.

No, they don't. Stop making up numbers. Argument from randU fallacy.

 

[Walt]

Obviously, you were never in the military.

I was briefly in the Air Force, which is much easier, and even they just gave orders. There was none of this "I don't feel like getting this medical checkup", they just did it. Not even much, if any, warning.

So are you claiming it was different for you?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I was briefly in the Air Force, which is much easier, and even they just gave orders. There was none of this "I don't feel like getting this medical checkup", they just did it. Not even much, if any, warning.

So are you claiming it was different for you?

Briefly? As in a four year hitch? I strongly doubt Sybil even tried to serve. He's anti-American and anti-military now, but he could have been a different person 20-30 years ago.

https://psychcentral.com/schizophrenia/schizophrenia-in-men

When does schizophrenia develop in males?

The usual age of onset for schizophrenia in men is their early 20s — between 18 and 25 years old. This is younger than women, who are usually diagnosed between ages 25 and 35 but are sometimes diagnosed at older ages.

Men may be more susceptible to schizophrenia at a younger age than women potentially because women have higher levels of estrogen, according to a 2021 study.

Estrogen helps regulate important neurotransmitters that play a role in schizophrenia onset, but the neuroprotective relationship is not well understood.

 

[Walt]

Briefly? As in a four year hitch?

The plan was 20 years. The reality was that my detached tendons had not actually completely healed, so it was 6 months, most of which was waiting around for appeals(not really serving).

I really do not like talking about it much. In effect, I did not serve. When asked if I served, I usually say, "not really." In a legal sense, I was in the Air Force for too long to get an ELS(Entry Level Separation), so instead have an honorable discharge. I think they did that on purpose to get me benefits, but I have never taken advantage of the benefits, and I will never take advantage of the benefits. I did get my DD-214, but only as proof that I do not have a dishonorable discharge.

The one part of serving I am intimately knowledgeable about is medical exams. There is no right to turn down exams, or treatments. They are not even required to tell you what they are doing. It just happens. It was six months of things just happening to me.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

The plan was 20 years. The reality was that my detached tendons had not actually completely healed, so it was 6 months, most of which was waiting around for appeals(not really serving).

I really do not like talking about it much. In effect, I did not serve. When asked if I served, I usually say, "not really." In a legal sense, I was in the Air Force for too long to get an ELS(Entry Level Separation), so instead have an honorable discharge. I think they did that on purpose to get me benefits, but I have never taken advantage of the benefits, and I will never take advantage of the benefits. I did get my DD-214, but only as proof that I do not have a dishonorable discharge.

The one part of serving I am intimately knowledgeable about is medical exams. There is no right to turn down exams, or treatments. They are not even required to tell you what they are doing. It just happens. It was six months of things just happening to me.

You made the effort which is a lot more than 85% of Americans. I have friends who were mustered out for medical reasons; blown knees and high blood pressure were the most common.

Thanks for serving. You are light years ahead of those who served longer but broke their oaths.