Trump's Bond Lowered to $175M...

[Damocles]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/25/politics/trump-civil-fraud-trial-bond/index.html

Trump bond lowered to $175 million as he appeals civil fraud judgment in New York


A New York appeals court has given former President Donald Trump 10 more days to post his bond to satisfy the civil fraud judgment and cut the amount necessary to $175 million.

It’s a major lifeline for the former president, who, along with his adult sons and his company, were fined more than $464 million, including interest, after Judge Arthur Engoron found Trump and his co-defendants fraudulently inflated the value of his assets.

The ruling staves off the prospect, for now, of New York Attorney General Letitia James seeking to seize the former president’s property to enforce the judgment against him. Trump had been struggling to come up with the means to post a bond of more than $500 million, the total that he would have needed before Monday’s appellate decision.

Trump will still have to find a way to post $175 million bond by next week. His attorneys said last week he was struggling to come up with bond to cover the full amount, noting that banks would not approve bond of more than $100 million.

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[Grokmaster]

Better, but still ridiculous for a non-existent "pseudo-crime", with no victims.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Sounds like the appeals court is going to eventually toss the whole case. I hope it's with prejudice...

 

[archives]

Better, but still ridiculous for a non-existent "pseudo-crime", with no victims.

Always got to laugh at the Fox fed “no victims” bullshit, wonder what would happen if above ^ got a speeding ticket and when appearing infront of the Judge pleaded he shouldn’t pay the fine cause there was “no victims” tin his speeding

The clown broke the law, he committed fraud, if you break the law you endure consequences, pretty much one of the principles in law going back to Hammiebi if not beforehand

 

[archives]

Sounds like the appeals court is going to eventually toss the whole case. I hope it's with prejudice...

Doubtful

 

[Grokmaster]

Always got to laugh at the Fox fed “no victims” bullshit, wonder what would happen if above ^ got a speeding ticket and when appearing infront of the Judge pleaded he shouldn’t pay the fine cause there was “no victims” tin his speeding

The clown broke the law, he committed fraud, if you break the law you endure consequences, pretty much one of the principles in law going back to Hammiebi if not beforehand

Speeding is endangering other people.

Always got to laugh at the Stalinists try to pretend that their political persecutions and madeup crimes are legit.

Who did Trump defraud?

Lenders did their own due diligence, as lenders always do, and found no problem.

 

[archives]

Speeding is endangering other people.

Always got to laugh at the Stalinists try to pretend that their political persecutions and madeup crimes are legit.

Who did Trump defraud?

Lenders did their own due diligence, as lenders always do, and found no problem.

Fox ain’t feeding you “endangered,” rather “no victims,” duh, want to try it again

And Trump broke the law, illegally, he schemed and lied to take advantages that others do not have available, it is called Fraud, Fraud 101, double duh

 

[Grokmaster]

Fox ain’t feeding you “endangered,” rather “no victims,” duh, want to try it again

And Trump broke the law, illegally, he schemed and lied to take advantages that others do not have available, it is called Fraud, Fraud 101, double duh

Bullshit. Everyone selling anything inflates value, everyone buying tries to deflate value.

Standard procedure, and not a crime.


The only people who would have been "defrauded", Deutsche Bank, were not; on the contrary they are more than happy to do business with Trump.


The "fraud" is this entire phony-ass case, and it will not withstand appeal.

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

There were no victims and the fine should thus be 1$.

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

The clown broke the law, he committed fraud, if you break the law you endure consequences, pretty much one of the principles in law going back to Hammiebi if not beforehand

And yet you support letting 60 million undocumented democrats live in america in violation of the law.

 

[gfm7175]

Always got to laugh at the Fox fed “no victims” bullshit, wonder what would happen if above ^ got a speeding ticket and when appearing infront of the Judge pleaded he shouldn’t pay the fine cause there was “no victims” tin his speeding

Who were the victims in this case?

The clown broke the law,

What law?

he committed fraud,

What fraud?

if you break the law you endure consequences, pretty much one of the principles in law going back to Hammiebi if not beforehand

No law was broken. No fraud was committed. All parties agreed to the relevant valuations. Trump was loaned money. Trump paid back the loaned money according to terms. The loaning party even testified in Trump's defense.

These insanely high bond values are a gross violation of the 8th amendment. It's all disgusting lawfare meant to interfere with the 2024 (s)elections.

You. Have. Nothing.

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

No law was broken. No fraud was committed. All parties agreed to the relevant valuations. Trump was loaned money. Trump paid back the loaned money according to terms. The loaning party even testified in Trump's defense.

These insanely high bond values are a gross violation of the 8th amendment. It's all disgusting lawfare meant to interfere with the 2024 (s)elections.

You. Have. Nothing.

Same thing with the evidence free e jean carroll case. To make it even crazier the law said the SOL had run out on such lawsuits.!!!! So NY changed the law and made it retro-active. How can they do that.?

 

[Jarod]

Better, but still ridiculous for a non-existent "pseudo-crime", with no victims.

Not a crime…

 

[Jarod]

Sounds like the appeals court is going to eventually toss the whole case. I hope it's with prejudice...

Why do you believe it sounds that way?

 

[Jarod]

Bullshit. Everyone selling anything inflates value, everyone buying tries to deflate value.

Standard procedure, and not a crime.


The only people who would have been "defrauded", Deutsche Bank, were not; on the contrary they are more than happy to do business with Trump.


The "fraud" is this entire phony-ass case, and it will not withstand appeal.

He wasn’t selling anything, he was getting a loan.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Why do you believe it sounds that way?

Because the appellate court obviously believes the fine is excessive for one. They are recognizing the 8th Amendment situation with the case. If that's the case, and it very likely is, then the appellate court is going to toss the judgement as excessive upon hearing the appeal. Because of the egregious size of the judgement, it's also likely they'll slap the lower court with a prejudice finding meaning the case is over and the state of NY loses.

 

[Jarod]

Because the appellate court obviously believes the fine is excessive for one. They are recognizing the 8th Amendment situation with the case. If that's the case, and it very likely is, then the appellate court is going to toss the judgement as excessive upon hearing the appeal. Because of the egregious size of the judgement, it's also likely they'll slap the lower court with a prejudice finding meaning the case is over and the state of NY loses.

Lot of extrapolation there. Maybe.

I am sure you believe it.

 

[Libhater]

Always got to laugh at the Fox fed “no victims” bullshit, wonder what would happen if above ^ got a speeding ticket and when appearing infront of the Judge pleaded he shouldn’t pay the fine cause there was “no victims” tin his speeding

The clown broke the law, he committed fraud, if you break the law you endure consequences, pretty much one of the principles in law going back to Hammiebi if not beforehand

And just who were the victims?

 

[Earl]

And just who were the victims?

There were no victims.

Poor Anchovies knows about as much about the law as the loon, Jarod.