Many, many, many of a President's nominees are not judges and a great number of them fill executive branch positions.
If the blanket hold applied exclusively to judicial nominees you would have a point. But it doesn't.
Sen. Shelby's "Blanket Hold"
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Many, many, many of a President's nominees are not judges and a great number of them fill executive branch positions.
If the blanket hold applied exclusively to judicial nominees you would have a point. But it doesn't.
Which would likely be a mistake for your party, it is very likely that the next election won't go well for you and you may be handing power to a party you don't want to have it.
Shelby, not Sessions.
The Democrats should pass a bill getting rid of the filibuster 6 years from now.
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Liberals used to be comprised mainly of proles. But these days Republicans and Democrats are essentially morons vs. thinking men.
SmarterthanYou
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the part of the article you pasted and it's references to nominees allowed me to assume that it was judicial only. If it's actually referring to ANY position nominee, then yes that is definitely bullshit.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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You can keep hoping! Senator Shelby is RESOUNDINGLY popular here, and I would say he is one of only a scant handful of politicians in DC who aren't worried about getting reelected. He will have nearly 80% of the vote.
GO SENATOR SHELBY!
SmarterthanYou
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fixed that for you.
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It would take an act of God for the Republicans to win the senate. And I'd support this even if the Republicans did pull the upset of the century out of their asses. The country will collapse on itself if we're forced into constant paralysis and become ungovernable. We'll become the second Polish state. Shelby has forced our hand.
As if. Filibusters have been in place since the Senate was created and cloture has always been the same. It doesn't cripple it, it holds them to further deliberation so that we do not have two houses of congress voting us into stupidity because they vote on emotive emergencies and rush headlong while panicking. Like I said, I'm pretty sure that this will be short-lived and for the reasons I have given.
The current use of the filibuster is unprecedented:
It's a whole nother ballgame these days.
Return it back to an actual filibuster. People will think twice about it. The "nuclear" option leaves us with two panicky emotive voting bodies, that's a recipe for crap legislation.The current use of the filibuster is unprecedented:
It's a whole nother ballgame these days.
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Why should Richard Shelby be a senator? Alabama doesn't need two senators.
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SmarterthanYou
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I think Mississippi should be forced to annex Alabama and reduce them both to a single senator to share.
Big Gubmint
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Senator Mary Landrieu took to the floor of the Senate to defend the $300 million "Lousiana Purchase" backroom deal that she struck in exchange for her vote on health care reform.
Her defense of the deal boils down to 'it's okay because she thinks she's a good person'.
From Politico: "I have spent 30 years of my life trying to represent the people of my state and make them look good," Landrieu said.
"Never, never in my life have I ever or will ever throw the people of my state under the bus to save my reputation or my job. I know what I am inside. I don't need anyone to remind me of the goodness that I have inside. My parents do that, my husband does that, my children do that for me every day. And I don't most certainly need anyone, and I don't need this job badly enough."
Well, then the deal must not be corrupt because she says she has "goodness inside."
Whew, glad that's sorted out. I would really hate to sully the reputation of a pure-as-driven-snow Louisiana politician with more talk about why buying her vote with hundreds of millions of dollars to pass legislation that would put 17 percent of the nation's economy under the boot heel of Big Gubmint is a bad thing.
Her defense of the deal boils down to 'it's okay because she thinks she's a good person'.
From Politico: "I have spent 30 years of my life trying to represent the people of my state and make them look good," Landrieu said.
"Never, never in my life have I ever or will ever throw the people of my state under the bus to save my reputation or my job. I know what I am inside. I don't need anyone to remind me of the goodness that I have inside. My parents do that, my husband does that, my children do that for me every day. And I don't most certainly need anyone, and I don't need this job badly enough."
Well, then the deal must not be corrupt because she says she has "goodness inside."
Whew, glad that's sorted out. I would really hate to sully the reputation of a pure-as-driven-snow Louisiana politician with more talk about why buying her vote with hundreds of millions of dollars to pass legislation that would put 17 percent of the nation's economy under the boot heel of Big Gubmint is a bad thing.
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1. That worked when no one ever used the filibuster except in extreme circumstances. The Liberium veto worked in Poland when no one ever used it either. When it became standard operating procedure over trivial matters, the Polish government didn't exist anymore in 50 years. The Republicans are never going to cooperate on anything. Their strategy is to deliberately refuse to work on anything and then accuse the Democrats of not being partisan for not working with them. Cut the drunks off from their drink.
2. Everyone KNOWS the Republicans are going to abolish the filibuster AS SOON AS THEY GET INTO POWER. I give them a week.
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Good point.
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We're never going to go back to what once was. If we make them actually filibuster, it just means the Republicans would shut down the chamber and rotate speakers until they were back in power.
The precedent has been set. The Republicans have set tradition aside. They have already abolished the filibuster.
The only person even suggesting it to be a good idea is not a republican, or even sane.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Ya know.....I have little sympathy for Obama on this. This isn't ball room dancing ya know? If Shelby wants to play hardball then Obama is in a position to just rock his world. Given past history, making nice with Mr. Shelby aint gonna do it. Dems are still in the majority in the Senate and make the rules. There's always the nuclear option that the Republicans used to threaten with.
Obama needs to quite being a political pansy light weight and start playing some hard ball himself. I'm rapidly getting frustrated with him.
Obama needs to quite being a political pansy light weight and start playing some hard ball himself. I'm rapidly getting frustrated with him.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
AND TAKE THE REST OF ALABAMA WITH YOU!
