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Onceler said:
No - the policies you listed would be ones no economist would agree with, and no one would ever implement.

The stimulus, & the concept behind it, was endorsed by many economists, even some on the right, and is based on a sound theory.

Next?

Now - how 'bout you answer my question on Iraq. Bet you can't, and bet you won't....

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your logic is laughable. you would not want obama to succeed on the policies i listed because no economist would agree with it, yet, i want the country to fail because i don't agree with obama's bad policies and i want those bad policies to fail. you, however, are a hero because no economist would agree to such policies. i am not surprised you don't see your intellectual dishonesty. i am not allowed to want obama's bad policies to fail due to the logical fallacy of appeal to authority....

what was your question on iraq? i have no doubt it is a red herring and another attempt by you to muddy the waters so you can then call me a liar, psycho, changing my mind or whatever other stupid things you say when you get called on your bullshit
 
This is another good spot for a lesson on intellectual honestly. When you present a bunch of outrageous, hyperbolic statements and compare that to what you said, that's DIShonest.

Fact is, you think Obama's economic policies are bad, and were characterizing them that way. And, you hope they fail.

What a patriot...
 
Onceler said:
Can't answer the question, huh? How typical. All day, demanding posters answer your questions, then turning into a little chicklet when it's time for you to face the music.

For the record, if I had said that I hope Bush's bad policies in Iraq fail 3-4 years ago, you would have called me a terrorist sympathizer...
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you said i want obama's policies to fail, that is false, i said i want his bad policies to fail. that you can't be honest and recognize my qualifier is not surprising.

no, i would not have called you a terrorist or whatever. if you believed bush's iraq policies would harm the US, then you are right to want them to fail. it is the height of partisan bullshit to support policies that you believe are harmful to the US. i'm not a hack like you onceler, i don't call me names like hater, psycho, unpatriotic when they want bad policies to fail.
 
Onceler said:
This is another good spot for a lesson on intellectual honestly. When you present a bunch of outrageous, hyperbolic statements and compare that to what you said, that's DIShonest.

Fact is, you think Obama's economic policies are bad, and were characterizing them that way. And, you hope they fail.

What a patriot...
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yes, that is patriotic thank you. and thank you for finally admitting i want onnly his bad policies to fail.

the statements are meant to by hyperbolic, because it is to get you to admit you would not support bad policies and you did. thanks
 
Yurt said:
you said i want obama's policies to fail, that is false, i said i want his bad policies to fail. that you can't be honest and recognize my qualifier is not surprising.

no, i would not have called you a terrorist or whatever. if you believed bush's iraq policies would harm the US, then you are right to want them to fail. it is the height of partisan bullshit to support policies that you believe are harmful to the US. i'm not a hack like you onceler, i don't call me names like hater, psycho, unpatriotic when they want bad policies to fail.
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Yurt, I'm sorry - in all seriousness, that is one of the most intellectually dishonest things you have said (and you have said a lot).

You have posted on this board enough for me & pretty much anyone else to know what your reaction would have been if, 3-4 years ago, I said in a thread that I wanted Bush's bad Iraq policies to fail.

You would not have said "you are right to want them to fail, if you believe they would harm the U.S."

That's absurd. You either don't know yourself, which I doubt, or you're just not being truthful with yourself. A response like you characterized above would be the first time you ever responded to a negative comment about Bush in that manner.
 
Onceler said:
Yurt, I'm sorry - in all seriousness, that is one of the most intellectually dishonest things you have said (and you have said a lot).

You have posted on this board enough for me & pretty much anyone else to know what your reaction would have been if, 3-4 years ago, I said in a thread that I wanted Bush's bad Iraq policies to fail.

You would not have said "you are right to want them to fail, if you believe they would harm the U.S."

That's absurd. You either don't know yourself, which I doubt, or you're just not being truthful with yourself. A response like you characterized above would be the first time you ever responded to a negative comment about Bush in that manner.
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lol...i finally answer your question honestly and all you have is false accusations that i'm lying. either prove it or admit you're wrong.

its clear you don't like my answer because it is the correct and most truthful answer and actually makes you look like a pathetic hack. i have supported obama on the policies i believe are good for the country, that included the h/c plan before it got screwed up. so go ahead and be a liar and claim what i said is not true.

here is some advice, if you're just going to insult me when i answer your questions, don't bother asking me any more questions, and in fact, i really don't think you're worthy of having any more of your questions answered. you've shown yourself to be nothing but a dishonest partisan hack.

it is truly sad that your irrational hatred for me causes you to believe my answer is false. it is clear that all the times you claim i am a hater and a pyscho etc....is really projection.
 
"Why, sure Onceler - if you think Bush's bad policy in Iraq failing would be better for America in the long run, I fully support you feeling that way. Kudos to you!"

Yeah - that sounds like a Yurt sentiment. "Mr. Honesty"....
 
Onceler said:
Thanks, Tutu; we can always count on unbiased commentary & excellent detail when you post...
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This is a politics site, it's preposterous to expect people not to tell you what they think based on their opinions, and for many their party.
 
Onceler said:
"Why, sure Onceler - if you think Bush's bad policy in Iraq failing would be better for America in the long run, I fully support you feeling that way. Kudos to you!"

Yeah - that sounds like a Yurt sentiment. "Mr. Honesty"....
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A better example would be strategy. I hoped that Bush would realize his failing strategy sooner so we could get to the business of providing security and letting them pick their own danged government. We needed to secure it, let them pick their government, and GTFO.
 
Onceler said:
"Why, sure Onceler - if you think Bush's bad policy in Iraq failing would be better for America in the long run, I fully support you feeling that way. Kudos to you!"

Yeah - that sounds like a Yurt sentiment. "Mr. Honesty"....
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do you have post of mine to the contrary? either link up or admit that you're just pissed because my honest answer shows you to the a dishonest hack because you sarcasticly said "what a patriot"....see, i'm not a hack like you, if someone disagrees with a policy and believes this policy will harm america, why in the hell would i say it is bad for them to want that policy to fail?

if i am so dishonest as you claim, why do i support obama on his good policies and want them to succeed, yet don't support the policies i believe are bad for the country?

all you have left are lies. i gave you an honest answer and you shit on it. you an asshole onceler, really, you are.
 
Damocles said:
This is a politics site, it's preposterous to expect people not to tell you what they think based on their opinions, and for many their party.
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And it isn't preposterous for people not to expect me to reply with my own opinion on their commentary?

Good call, Damo.
 
Onceler said:
And it isn't preposterous for people not to expect me to reply with my own opinion on their commentary?

Good call, Damo.
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Your "opinion" is to point out that they have a bias? Thank you Captain Obvious. You have one too, everybody here does, it is why we come here. It's like yelling at somebody for talking physics at a physics site.
 
Damocles said:
A better example would be strategy. I hoped that Bush would realize his failing strategy sooner so we could get to the business of providing security and letting them pick their own danged government. We needed to secure it, let them pick their government, and GTFO.
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Bush's strategy blew. It wasn't even him in many ways; I don't even know if he had oversight over the decision to disband the Iraqi army, for example (he should have, but I seem to recall that it didn't even make it past his desk).

But, as much as it blew, I didn't want it to fail.
 
Damocles said:
Your "opinion" is to point out that they have a bias? Thank you Captain Obvious. You have one too, everybody here does, it is why we come here. It's like yelling at somebody for talking physics at a physics site.
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And you don't respond to some of my posts to point out that I have bias?
 
Onceler said:
And you don't respond to some of my posts to point out that I have bias?
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Only because I was falling for this for a while, people don't want to seem partisan for some reason.

It's silly though. We all have an opinion, thus a bias, or we wouldn't be here. I hope to stop using that as an "insult" in the future. We need such bias or this site would be worthless, we'd all be centrist freaks.
 
Damocles said:
Only because I was falling for this for a while, people don't want to seem partisan for some reason.

It's silly though. We all have an opinion, thus a bias, or we wouldn't be here. I hope to stop using that as an "insult" in the future. We need such bias or this site would be worthless, we'd all be centrist freaks.
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I have never been an "I vote for the best man" kind of guy. With few exceptions in history, I have voted Democrat, because they carry the platform that most closely aligns to my ideals on education, the environment, equality, budgetary issues, healthcare, etc. It doesn't make sense to me to vote for someone who would work against that.

Not that the GOP doesn't have some aspects of their platform that I like, but on balance, it's a no brainer for me...
 
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