Do we all agree pot should be legal?

usaloyal2theend said:
I was blown away by how easy it is to score this stuff and how rampant it actually is.

I don't do drugs, outside of an ibuprofen, vitamins, and a perscription here and there. That is not to say I haven't in the past.

Pot was never my thing. I hate dopey highs where you kind of nod off. Heroine is a particularily ugly looking high, but a tweeker on meth is ugly too.

I was a speed kind of gal and got my kick from diet pills and coke. I felt more control on those drugs even though they are high energy.

Basically I am as pure as the driven snow now and have been for a long time. I have discovered that getting a natural high from being in good shape through exercise and entertainment beats any high drugs or alcohol every produced.

Added bonus: No hangovers! :good4u:
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Yeah, I dislike it when my brain isn't working at optimum and avoid it at every opportunity. That being said I grew up in a place where it was very easy to obtain illegal drugs, but it was always difficult to get alcohol. The dealers didn't have alcohol to sell me, they had marijuana and cocaine, herione, ecstacy, LSD... and they had no qualms selling it to me. I never did anything stronger than weed, and that sparingly.
 
Jarod said:
Is there anyone on here who belives Pot should remain illegal?
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I think it depends on what you mean by "illegal."

Do I think pot should be legally sold over the convenience store counters, like cigarettes or booze? NOPE!

Do I think pot should remain a felony, enabling government to confiscate property and throw you in prison for? NOPE!

Do I think the Feds should tax pot? NOPE!

Do I think pot should be commercialized? NOPE!

Should it be illegal to grow it for personal use? NOPE!

Should it be taken out of the hands of the States to decide? NOPE!

My position is in favor of "decriminalization" not "legalization." I think it should be legal for anyone to grow it for personal use, but restricted from selling it or producing it to sell. The details of how much, or what safeguards are put in place to protect minors, should be left to the states to decide. It is unfortunate that thousands are in jail, serving longer sentences than some convicted murderers, for growing or possessing a WEED! It's ridiculous that law enforcement can confiscate property and money, because someone is in possession of a WEED! There are far too many other drugs out there, which need the attention of law enforcement, and it's a waste of resources to go after the pot smokers.

That said, there are still many unanswered medical questions about ingesting smoke of any kind into your lungs. If we are moving toward some kind of 'nationalized health care' for people who can't afford it, and I am going to have to pay for the health problems of others, I think legalizing pot as a commercial enterprise, is beyond stupid, and would greatly add to respiratory ailments and problems associated with the delivery system. It would be like saying, we are going to pay for everyone's car insurance, but we are simultaneously going to do away with the speed limits.
 
Damocles said:
Works for me. I think we should decriminalize all of it and make it actually difficult for kids to get hold of. It was significantly easier for me to get cocaine when I was 14 than it was for me to get beer, and this was BECAUSE it was illegal as it is. The people who were selling it were 14 too, they had no urge to check my ID.

Decriminalize it, make it so you have to be above a strict age limit (make it the same as those you are willing to draft or to die for the nation professionally) and then set hard time for those who break the age limitations. Put it all behind a wall, like a pharmacy, and only allow licensed "dealers"...

But then I'm very libertarian and actually like EFFECTIVE laws when it comes to things like this. The laws as they are ensure that it is easier to get pot and cocaine than it is to get beer for the people who are stupid enough to use them.

One must allow parents responsibility towards their child as well. If I think teaching my child moderation is a good thing I should be allowed to do it without fear of prison.
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Too true. My parents had a very effective way of taking the potential wind out of my teenaged sails with respect to alcohol. I really wasn't terribly interested in it, but they said that they knew I'd eventually want to try it. They said that they preferred that I do that in the safety of my own home with them there to help me and make sure I'd be safe. So much for that adventure, if I'd been so inclined! I'm far from being a teenager now, and still don't like feeling even "tipsy", though I do enjoy the taste of a good single malt scotch -- just one small drink late in the evening. Drugs hold no fascination for me, other than curiosity as to their neurological effects, which were part of my dissertation research.

Prohibition simply doesn't work. The "war on drugs" hasn't worked. The best we can do is to inform people to the best of our medical and scientific knowledge, rationally, truthfully, and non-hysterically. Otherwise we have no credibility and we might as well not bother because that makes it worse. Beyond that, just control access to a well informed public through approved outlets. That will solve a whole host of legal and criminal matters beyond the addiction aspect, and may well have a profound effect on addiction as well.
 
leaningright said:
No way....21 it should be.
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This I don't understand. We prosecute as adults in EVERY state at 18, We let people fight and die for this country at the age of 18. You are presumed competent to enter into a contract at age 18. 18 is the age we deem citizens to be adults. We should treat them as adults for everything.
 
Topspin said:
read, they are lots of studies on the medicinal value of cannabis.
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A lot of them are anectodal, unfortunately. It's best to sort out the well designed, empirical studies, and have a good sound look at those. I've heard of benefits for both nausea and pain relief; would like to see how the studies have approached those.
 
More Proof That Marijuana is Medicine
by F. Aaron Smith

The Center for Medicinal Cannabis Research (CMCR), based at the University of California, San Diego, published a report today summarizing the results of clinical trials studying medical marijuana’s efficacy in treating pain. The studies, funded by CMCR under the mandate of a 1999 legislative action, found that marijuana is particularly helpful in relieving pain associated with nerve damage and in treating the muscle spasticity from multiple sclerosis.

The summary CMCR presented to the California legislature today brings together data from 15 clinical studies – six of which have been published in respected medical journals.

In 2002, then-drug czar and rabid medical marijuana opponent, John Walters said, “The Center for Medicinal Cannabis Research is currently conducting scientific studies to determine the efficacy of marijuana in treating various ailments. Until that research is concluded, however, most of what the public hears from marijuana activists is little more than a compilation of anecdotes.”

Well, the proof is in. Now it’s time for Congress to bring federal medical marijuana policy into line with the science.

The full CMCR publication can be downloaded, here.
 
In Morrocco its the other way around, you can buy and smoke pot at a bar, but if you order a beer you are likely to get arrested.
 
Socrtease said:
This I don't understand. We prosecute as adults in EVERY state at 18, We let people fight and die for this country at the age of 18. You are presumed competent to enter into a contract at age 18. 18 is the age we deem citizens to be adults. We should treat them as adults for everything.
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I agree.
 
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