Babies and trade schools......

T. A. Gardner said:
You have to additionally change the current mindset in education in the US where everything is geared to prepping students to go to college. In Europe and Asia (for once they have something right), schools starting about 8th grade separate students into two career paths and they go to different schools afterwards.

The first group are students showing capacity for college educations, particularly in math and sciences, along with students from backgrounds of "privilege." That is the smart and rich kids get prepped for college. Yea, that's elitist and whatever, but it's also realist. Why drag down the smart kids while you aren't going to do much, if anything, to change the trajectory of the rich ones.

The second group are students that have sufficient grades and intellect they can become skilled technicians, craftsmen, tradesmen, and the like. They still need good math and science skills, etc., but they aren't getting an education in physics or science to be inventors and intellectuals. They are being trained to be a highly paid, skilled workforce that society needs. They also take things like hands on shop classes and often are hired into work programs with actual companies needing them.

The delinquents, mouth breathers, and other either won't amount to much in society types get the GED education and are mostly going to school, if they go to school, and are being warehoused.
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So you want to track kids?
 
Stone said:
This is our way to a brighter future. It's the whole Give a man a fish thing but in this scenario it is give a man a TRADE. But first you need the man . Population growth followed by easy access to trade schools. We have two choices,...we can pay for people from cradle to grave or we can pay to educate them in a needed trade where they can go on to live good middle class lives, home ownership, raise their own families and be productive tax paying citizens. EASY choice IMO.
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We had that once. A very very long time ago. But at that horrible horrible time in America the wealthiest paid a LOT in marginal tax rates. A LOT.

I don't think we want those dark days here again.
 
leaningright said:
We do a pretty good job of maintaining trade schools here in Oklahoma so I’d have to agree with your post but a disturbing trend I see is that … let me alter the last part of your post: “most kids don’t want to enter into a trade WORK” … and that is a problem.
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Did kids ever, even in your own youth, really want to work?
 
Stone said:
This is our way to a brighter future. It's the whole Give a man a fish thing but in this scenario it is give a man a TRADE. But first you need the man . Population growth followed by easy access to trade schools. We have two choices,...we can pay for people from cradle to grave or we can pay to educate them in a needed trade where they can go on to live good middle class lives, home ownership, raise their own families and be productive tax paying citizens. EASY choice IMO.
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Funny. Congress is full of Republican graduates of Ivy League colleges. You idiots will never learn.
 
RB 60 said:
Our forum bigoted racist says trade school graduates are ignorant uneducated goyim, yet he couldn't even read the prints I've made parts from.
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Poor arby thinks his special ed vocation skooling prepared him for anything other than a drill press operator in a sheltered workshop


That's like top claiming to be a teacher :ROFLMAO: 🤪
 
Guno צְבִי said:
Poor arby thinks his special ed vocation skooling prepared him for anything other than a drill press operator in a sheltered workshop


That's like top claiming to be a teacher :ROFLMAO: 🤪
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Like I said, the poor bigoted racist couldn't read the prints I've made parts from.
Drill press? Maybe you can explain why there are different angles on drill bits, or
how to grind a boring bar from a broken end mill. Nah, you don't have a clue...
 
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I wonder
RB 60 said:
Like I said, the poor bigoted racist couldn't read the prints I've made parts from.
Drill press? Maybe you can explain why there are different angles on drill bits, or
how to grind a boring bar from a broken end mill. Nah, you don't have a clue...
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Nothing but nasty, evil hot air, that one...and a coward, who would never put his money where his mouth is...;) He just very obediently follows that SCRIPT... :ROFLMAO:
 
archives said:
Did kids ever, even in your own youth, really want to work?
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But they usually grew out of it by adulthood.

Seriously, observing during the last 10-15 years, the truancy and tardiness that becomes a habit with many high school students so often stays with them after graduation making college and employment difficult for them.
 
leaningright said:
But they usually grew out of it by adulthood.

Seriously, observing during the last 10-15 years, the truancy and tardiness that becomes a habit with many high school students so often stays with them after graduation making college and employment difficult for them.
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That's for sure.... It's time for schools to stop being accepting/forgiving of the tardiness and the truancy...
 
RB 60 said:
Like I said, the poor bigoted racist couldn't read the prints I've made parts from.
Drill press? Maybe you can explain why there are different angles on drill bits, or
how to grind a boring bar from a broken end mill. Nah, you don't have a clue...
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No Arby since I am a journeyman tool and die maker i.e. Reviews blueprints and sketches, use CAD software to design tools, operate machinery and programing CNC. And that was before I got my Mechanical Engineering degree from the State University of NY.

So run along shop rat and grind your drill bits and end mills :eek: :rolleyes:
 
Guno צְבִי said:
No Arby since I am a journeyman tool and die maker i.e. Reviews blueprints and sketches, use CAD software to design tools, operate machinery and programing CNC. And that was before I got my Mechanical Engineering degree from the State University of NY.

So run along shop rat and grind your drill bits and end mills :eek: :rolleyes:
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Nah, you pathetic bigoted racist, you couldn't hold a candle to me in a machine shop.
 
This is rich coming from boomers when tons of my fellow millennials with boomer parents were told the only way to make good money was to go to college.

You piss and moan about stuff participation trophies when IT'S THE PARENTS, much like you boomers, that came up with the idea in the first place.
 
Yakuda said:
Have you ever wired a house for electricity?
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I don't know about him but I have and that was way before I became an industrial electrician, and I got rave reviews from the inspector , in fact I was the last one he inspected.
When he showed up for my inspection he started looking around and after about 5 min. he asked me what electrician did the job I said I did , he said he could tell it was too perfect and seeing I was his last inspection because he was retiring after he was done with my job he asked if the new inspector could come and look at it I said yes why not, well he came over and looked at it and said when I was done to just call him and he would send out my papers because he wasn't going to waste his time coming out it was that good.
That was on the 44 X 55 foot addition I put on a 24 X 32 House doing about 90% of the work myself.
have a nice day
 
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