Tea Party members - This is NOT the way to win an argument

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AssHatZombie said:
Actually, it continually proves that the tea party is not a top down thouht controlled shit party like the other two.

Stop with your nazi thought purity witchhunt bullshit.
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Look asshat, if you want to compare anyone to the nazi party, look no further than those who would spout hatred of race.

I am not saying the Tea Party leadership can control everyone in their party. But when it is perceived that the movement approves of calling congressmen "nigger", then the entire movement is severely damaged.

I am not saying anyone's free speech should be curtailed. I am saying (and have been saying) that the leadership of the movement needs to step up and condemn the comments. I haven't seen that done anywhere.
 
WinterBorn said:
Look asshat, if you want to compare anyone to the nazi party, look no further than those who would spout hatred of race.

I am not saying the Tea Party leadership can control everyone in their party. But when it is perceived that the movement approves of calling congressmen "nigger", then the entire movement is severely damaged.

I am not saying anyone's free speech should be curtailed. I am saying (and have been saying) that the leadership of the movement needs to step up and condemn the comments. I haven't seen that done anywhere.
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two things:


1. Fuck perceptions.

2. Don't be a douche.
 
Southern Man said:
Yeah who is the head of the TEA Party. Oh, that's right- there isn't anyone. :good4u:
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Wow, there is no leadership for this movement? You mean all these people independently decide to show up at given times? No one organizes the rallies, they just happen?

Don't be ridiculous.


BTW, Michael Steele, RNC Chairman, condemned the words of the racists. Now the Tea Party Leadership needs to do the same.
 
show's how dumb these tools are Dick Army a former high ranking republican is financed by millionair's on the right. Poor imitation of grass roots that put Obama in office. But hey at least they tried.
 
AssHatZombie said:
but fool, it's not defending racism to NOT beat down people who say nigger.

The media will always find something on the protesters; if your aim is to pacify them, you might as well just become a mccain supporter.


Protesters should stay on message not waste time fretting about who's getting filmed, or conducting public wich hunts to satifly hotile media.
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Nobody said to "beat them down" except you. Apparently you have two speeds, somnambulant and "beat down", neither of which you are very effective at deciding when it would be best to use.
 
WinterBorn said:
1. Yeah, thats an excellent way to achieve political goals. Brilliant strategy there.

2. I am not, but your Mom needs one.
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Look tool. You just want to creat some kind of ORTHODOXY COUNCIL so there can be a point of corruption so the movement can be corrupted by the internationalist fascists. Top down control is the only neccessity to corrupt any organization.

Uncontrollably amorphous describes a true party of freedom. Get used to it. Freedom has come to roost. It's morning in america.
 
AssHatZombie said:
Look tool. You just want to creat some kind of ORTHODOXY COUNCIL so there can be a point of corruption so the movement can be corrupted by the internationalist fascists. Top down control is the only neccessity to corrupt any organization.

Uncontrollably amorphous describes a true party of freedom. Get used to it. Freedom has come to roost. It's morning in america.
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See? This is what we need to avoid, defending the idiots so much that we wind up attacking people who actually can do some good. The reaction after is more important than the idiots actions to begin with. Now we know that some people will defend any action if they think it means they are defending an "ally"... I'm glad you don't speak for the TEA Party movement.

Currently there are people defending this to the detriment of the message, it will be lost in stupidity.
 
Southern Man said:
Who are they? Name them.
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Mark Williams is one of those in a position of leadership.

Mark Meckler is the national coordinator of the Tea Party Patriots.

Those two popped up with a simple Google search.




I am not saying any single individual is in charge of the tea party movement, but you saying there is no leadership in the movement is nonsense.
 
Damocles said:
See? This is what we need to avoid, defending the idiots so much that we wind up attacking people who actually can do some good. The reaction after is more important than the idiots actions to begin with. Now we know that some people will defend any action if they think it means they are defending an "ally"... I'm glad you don't speak for the TEA Party movement.

Currently there are people defending this to the detriment of the message, it will be lost in stupidity.
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It's not "defending them" to just not worry about how the mainstream media frames things.

You're in bad arguing liar mode again, damo.
 
AssHatZombie said:
It's not "defending them" to just not worry about how the mainstream media frames things.

You're in bad arguing liar mode again, damo.
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Yes, I have set my mode to "argue against bad liars", but that really has nothing to do with this thread, I argue against stupidity regardless of whether they are bad liars.

The reality is you are defending them. "We should just sit silently by while the message is lost in stupidity," (paraphrased) it's flat what you said.
 
Damocles said:
Yes, I have set my mode to "argue against bad liars", but that really has nothing to do with this thread, I argue against stupidity regardless of whether they are bad liars.

The reality is you are defending them. "We should just sit silently by while the message is lost in stupidity," (paraphrased) it's flat what you said.
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No. You misunderstand your setting, you're bad at arguing and a liar when you're in this mode.

Silence is not defense. Your mccarthyistic logic is pretty revolting, you fucking nazi.
 
AssHatZombie said:
No. You misunderstand your setting, you're bad at arguing and a liar when you're in this mode.

Silence is not defense. Your mccarthyistic logic is pretty revolting, you fucking nazi.
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I misunderstood nothing, I have changed my current mode and set it to "clarify stupidity from AssHat"...

No, silence is allowing them to be taken as those speaking for an entire group of people. Defending them is saying that we should actively be silent because the only other "option" according to AssHat is a "beat down" and we shouldn't do anything that might make it so that these people don't speak for others...
 
Damocles said:
I misunderstood nothing, I have my current mode set to "clarify stupidity from AssHat"...

No, silence is allowing them to be taken as those speaking for an entire group of people. Defending them is saying that we should actively be silent because the only other "option" according to AssHat is a "beat down"...
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"allowing them to be taken as" ? Nobody can control that.

I think some official statements were made. Obsessing about flaws that others may perceive and making that your top priority is a mindless concession to the cultural erosion of Real Politik brainwashing. Find yourself, lost one.
 
AssHatZombie said:
"allowing them to be taken as" ? Nobody can control that.

I think some official statements were made. Obsessing about flaws that others may perceive and making that your top priority is a mindless concession to the cultural erosion of Real Politik brainwashing. Find yourself, lost one.
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Weak. Seriously do you hear yourself?

Of course you can control how the movement is seen by others by showing them a reaction to what was supposedly said in their name. You don't have to control what they wrote, you have to control what will be written by controlling the message. If people in the movement sit silent and allow this to be the standard, the "voice" of the party will be people shouting racial epithets and the message will be lost.

Your argument throughout this thread has been that nobody should have said anything because otherwise it was equivalent to a "beat down."
 
Damocles said:
Weak. Seriously do you hear yourself?

Of course you can control how the movement is seen by others by showing them a reaction to what was supposedly said in their name. ."
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I say don't fret about the suppositions of fools. You keep worrying, fretting and getting off message. I'll offer advice for true success.

We disagree. And my tactics and suggestions are better.
 
AssHatZombie said:
I say don't fret about the suppositions of fools. You keep worrying, fretting and getting off message. I'll offer advice for true success.

We disagree. And my tactics and suggestions are better.
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:rolleyes:

No, I've simply argued that in order to ensure they aren't the only message heard somebody must speak. You've told me that we should have just shut up and let the movement be hijacked by racist idiots. Your defense of this is idiocy and fuels the rampaging stupidity.
 
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