Can you name the last President who didn't rail whatever media was aligned against them?
You can take you time, as well - like Yurt.
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Can you name the last President who didn't rail whatever media was aligned against them?
You can take you time, as well - like Yurt.
You have got to be joking. It's almost like you ignored all the other networks listed to take aim at the "easiest" target.
Each week even MSNBC alone has more viewers than Rush has listeners, even that target was a weak attempt at ignoring reality, let alone the rest of the list. Shoot, all you have to do is remember back fondly to See B.S. News "reporting" on the fake memos to realize whose side they are on...
The left has effective media. Pretending that Rush Limbaugh is more effective than the entire left media is flat disingenuous, and imagining that the 80% of the MSM "reporters" who admit to being democrats do not allow their bias to effect them and their "reporting" is just pretense. Stop being so deliberately inane.
No matter how many listeners he has 3 hours of radio will never tip the scales against the near monopoly on media. Not even the one 24/7 channel that is more right than left can get close to tipping these larder scales....
Now go and burn that witch elsewhere... we don't allow that here.
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once again, being dishonest....it isn't about who has the biggest influence, its about ending ALL vitriol talk...obama didn't just say ONLY those with the biggest audience, he said ALL should end it, yet he only mentions two big meany republicans...you're as big a baby he is onceler
you're just being a hack and creating a strawman argument because you have no rational defense for you comments.
and tbo...i don't know who has more influence, matthews is on television, rush is on AM radio....matthews HOSTED presidential debates, makes comments at democratic events watched by MILLIONS of people...
do you really want to continue down this road of stupid hackery onceler?
Billy the Great Khan
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i gave you my best and honest answer and i knew you would be too cowardly to actually address what i said and then prance around claiming victory
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this is a great one billy....don't expect hackler to admit to it
You've got too much of a chip on your shoulder. You're hardly one to be pointing fingers & proclaiming "best answers"...
Billy the Great Khan
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It's hackasaurus rex. And while it's true he doesn't 'host' anything, neither Limbaugh, nor Beck have every made an award winning film. Or any film that I'm aware of.
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once again, too cowardly and dishonest to address what i said, much easier to insult and hack for you onceler
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From the way I read it, Obama is talking about the tone & discourse. Farenheit 9/11 was made ages ago. "Sicko" was not a partisan film, if you saw it.
As I've said, I have heard Senators quote Limbaugh, without realizing it. To suggest that a guy like Moore, in the year 2010, has even close to the effect on the political climate as a guy like Limbaugh is just odd.
I think the President using the bully pulpit to attempt to shut down speech (and yes, attempting to say that "they" are bad is attempting exactly that) he doesn't like adds to the toxic political environment, and gives them reason to keep going down that same path.
The Presidency should be above this, not wallow in it.
The Presidency should be above this, not wallow in it.
Billy the Great Khan
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Yeah, except no. He's the equal of either of the two mentioned, except he makes massive film projects that are watched by people who are normally not politically active or motivated, where as people who watch Beck or listen to Limbaugh are more than likely already somewhat involved. Thus one could state that Moore has a greater effect since his is the only political exposure that part of his demographic will likely experience.
What precedent are you basing this one?
What President in your lifetime has not railed against media he finds destructive to his goals, whether it's the "liberal media" or Limbaugh?
Many would call a President weak for letting distortions & hate speech slide by without comment; think back to how people criticized Kerry for letting the swiftvets go unfettered for a month without addressing their accusations...
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you would have thought obama learned the last time in wallowed in it....rush's rating went way up
obama simply is too petty, to thin skinned and really, the whiner in chief
in the aspect of handling criticism, bush is head and shoulders above obama
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its funny how onceler keeps running away from the truth
Are you kidding? Bush almost never spoke about the media itself. Even when Rather was "reporting" on made up memos almost nothing was said from the WH about it. Bush ineptly tried to sound "above" it by saying he never "read newspapers". Of course he likely didn't, he was busy getting more direct information from the CIA and others and hearing about articles rather than researching them...
This guy seems to whine about Limbaugh every chance he gets, if not him somebody on his staff is out there saying something vitriolic about him or his listeners, even attempting to get kool-ade drinkers to pretend he "leads" the party. Shoot, if Obama and media matters weren't constantly whining about Limbaugh, almost nobody on this site except Jarod would ever hear what the man said!
And lastly, there is a HUGE difference between a candidate and a President, it is time he started acting like a President. Maybe even how he said he would act.
Your schtick is pretty played, Yurt. You don't offer serious debate on this board, and from what I've seen, everyone kind of knows that at this point.
You're just looking to poke the hive, as meme used to say. You don't care about honest discussion.
Bush was better about getting his lackeys to rail the media, but rail the media they did. Don't be naive.
As for Limbaugh, you have consistently downplayed his influence, which is weird. He is arguably the most influential person in American politics over the last 20 years.