It was 200K, dude on the radio exaggerated. Much of that is due to the fact that they wanted 100K Census jobs now, but have only managed to hire 48K. It can't be for lack of applicants...
162,000 Jobs added in March
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Dixie - In Memoriam
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I am just wondering... Did all those folks who had given up finding a job and those who had fallen off the unemployment rolls under Bush, suddenly become employed? What about all those people under Bush, who were taking sub-paying jobs to get by? Did they all get a pay raise or something?
Reason I wonder is, when Bush was president, and he routinely had jobs report numbers showing 100k...150k... 180k... 200k new jobs, we were all hearing a really different tune from Democrats, weren't we? Back then, it was conventional wisdom you had to create at least 250k jobs just to "break even" due to all these other mitigating factors... but suddenly, it seems those mitigating factors no longer apply.... I just wondered, why is that?
Reason I wonder is, when Bush was president, and he routinely had jobs report numbers showing 100k...150k... 180k... 200k new jobs, we were all hearing a really different tune from Democrats, weren't we? Back then, it was conventional wisdom you had to create at least 250k jobs just to "break even" due to all these other mitigating factors... but suddenly, it seems those mitigating factors no longer apply.... I just wondered, why is that?
Sure; because it's really comparable to stats we're gauging based on the deepest dropoff in economic activity in decades (which, btw, occurred on Bush's watch).
Sammy Jankis
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No crutch needed. We just need to point out that pretending deficit spending and makework jobs are organic real growth merely increases the fascist totalitarian statist nature of our society.
Sammy Jankis
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The real solution is to stop idiotic globalization and keep some jobs for american, and place tariffs or embargos on slave labor nations.
Americas economy should work for americans.
Protectionism now. new world order never.
Americas economy should work for americans.
Protectionism now. new world order never.
Cancel 2016.2
The Almighty
I hope that occurs. But I seriously doubt it. The next month or two should show similar growth to this one, but that is not enough to keep pace with new entrants into the work force, let alone help out those 7-8 million that have lost jobs over the past 18 months.
Minister of Truth
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Protectionism = Racism
PostmodernProphet
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you mean things like health care costs, taxes, criticism of nasty things like 'profits', blaming them for everything that happens, taking them over and giving ownership to the government and employees, increasing regulation.......those sort of specifics?.....
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
so when the economy recovers, whether it's two quarters from now or two years from now and we end up with 4 percent growth.....are you going to pretend it was the "stimulus" that did it?.....how about recognizing that if he hadn't wasted the "stimulus" on his effort to turn the majority of Americans into government employees we might have been there already......
Topspin
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The stimulus will no doubt add to GDP, only a GED would think otherwise. That said I blasted both presidents for bailing out the rich sailors around the Hamptons. They could have let more of wall street fail, given each tax payer 10 or 20,000 in a check. You'd have had a faster recovery and not the thieves hoarding by not making loans with the stimulus. Obama time this bullshit to help him get re-elected.
Sammy Jankis
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stimulus is temporary. americans need to increase our exports and our job base.
We have a political and ideological problem. The powers that be are trying paint a rosy picture while they flush the working american down the toilet.
Sammy Jankis
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Dixie - In Memoriam
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I agree with the bolded part... but the problem is, the solution is something you rail against all the time. In order to 'create' more jobs for Americans, you have to encourage and promote capitalism. Unless a corporation has some incentive to capitalistically grow and expand, they will not do so, and jobs will not be created as a result.
Sammy Jankis
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Globalization stupidity is not the only form of capitalism.
Protectionism is a tried and true mechanism for growing an internal economy.
And if multi nationals want to pull out, let them. We will bootstrap all our own industries to serve the needs of americans.
Americas markets should benefit americans.
Take your new world order stupidity and lies and shove them.
Sammy Jankis
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gain for whom? There is a one way suck of cash out of our society due to globalization. Just because fascist executives profit, doesn't mean we're conducting our economy in a sensible, long term focused way.
zappasguitar
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So now "criticism" is considered a "tax"?
Because that's what TuTu was speaking of...new taxes on people.
That's not enough jobs to drop the unemployment rate.
But, it's still good news. My beef with Obama is that the stimulus bill wasn't big enough, and didn't have enough infrastructure spending. And that he hasn't reigned in the Robber Barons nearly enough, to avoid a repeat of the meltdown.
On balance, this is encouraging however. Especially since at the end of 2008, it was widely concluded that we were staring at the brink of another Great Republican Depression. I wonder why republicans said that Obama's economic policy would be an economic disaster? One can only conclude on of two things.
The stimulus and the economic policies put in place in early 2009, helped turned things around, restore some confidence, and steered us from the brink of another GOP Depression.
Or, that Obama just got lucky.
I love these charts, they certiantly show how this is an "Obama recession" and how its all President Obama's fault...!