So Cypress

Cypress said:
Ahh, I see. You have dementia or some other form of memory loss.

Nope, I literally told you 30 minutes ago that the choice is up to the Ukrainians as to how long they want to fight and what concessions, if any, they want to make
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Yes it is, but they have no claim to the wealth of American taxpayers, which is what you can't seem to grasp. The $171 billion - (which according to Zelinsky a cool $100 was outright stolen) is money from US taxpayers. Ukraine is welcome to fight, the gravy train is ending. So is the massive embezzlement built into it, so is the war profiteering.

Sell your Raytheon and KBR stock, the taxpayer is tired of being fleeced by the MIC.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Yes it is, but they have no claim to the wealth of American taxpayers, which is what you can't seem to grasp. The $171 billion - (which according to Zelinsky a cool $100 was outright stolen) is money from US taxpayers. Ukraine is welcome to fight, the gravy train is ending. So is the massive embezzlement built into it, so is the war profiteering.

Sell your Raytheon and KBR stock, the taxpayer is tired of being fleeced by the MIC.
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You undoubtedly supported and cheered :cheer: for the war in Iraq, so you have no leg to stand on.
 
Cypress said:
You undoubtedly supported and cheered :cheer: for the war in Iraq, so you have no leg to stand on.
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As always, you are full of shit.

I never supported Bush or his moronic war.

Bush the Eviler started this shit for Kuwait, who was slant drilling to steal oil from the Iraqis. Saddam was a bad guy, but Iran is vastly worse. We attacked the wrong target. Every person in Kuwait is not worth the blood of a single American.
 
Cypress said:
You undoubtedly supported and cheered :cheer: for the war in Iraq, so you have no leg to stand on.
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You know for a fact that I did not, so will you answer the question if I repeat it?

Do you support ending the war now, even if Ukraine must give concessions, or do you feel that we should fund them forever until every last Ukrainian youth is dead?
 
Damocles said:
You know for a fact that I did not, so will you answer the question if I repeat it?

Do you support ending the war now, even if Ukraine must give concessions, or do you feel that we should fund them forever until every last Ukrainian youth is dead?
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The game of total hypotheticals, eh?

Easy.

If Zelensky says the Ukrainian government is ready to surrender and give half their country away to Putin, that's up to them.

However, since I know Ukrainians better than you, I don't see them submitting to an invader in the way Republicans obviously would.
 
Cypress said:
The game of total hypotheticals, eh?

Easy.

If Zelensky says the Ukrainian government is ready to surrender and give half their country away to Putin, that's up to them.

However, since I know Ukrainians better than you, I don't see them submitting to an invader in the way Republicans obviously would.
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No. It is a "game" of what has been proposed. Do you support an end or do you think we should let Russia kill more North Korean Troops and Ukrainians?
 
Uncensored2008 said:
As always, you are full of shit.

I never supported Bush or his moronic war.

Bush the Eviler started this shit for Kuwait, who was slant drilling to steal oil from the Iraqis. Saddam was a bad guy, but Iran is vastly worse. We attacked the wrong target. Every person in Kuwait is not worth the blood of a single American.
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All Republicans and conservatives supported the invasion of Iraq, except for a tiny handful. Now you belatedly want me to believe large numbers of conservatives on JPP were opposed to the war? :laugh:
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Yes it is, but they have no claim to the wealth of American taxpayers, which is what you can't seem to grasp. The $171 billion - (which according to Zelinsky a cool $100 was outright stolen) is money from US taxpayers. Ukraine is welcome to fight, the gravy train is ending. So is the massive embezzlement built into it, so is the war profiteering.

Sell your Raytheon and KBR stock, the taxpayer is tired of being fleeced by the MIC.
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You're trying to belatedly change and modify the question asked of me in post #1.

Post #1 did not ask me about money.

Post #1 asked me about saving lives. Money was not in the equation.

Obviously, the thread author does not believe sovereign citizens should die defending their country from ruthless invaders. He does not believe resistance is worth death and destruction.

I find that to be a common attitude among MAGA morons these days.
 
Cypress said:
The game of total hypotheticals, eh?

Easy.

If Zelensky says the Ukrainian government is ready to surrender and give half their country away to Putin, that's up to them.

However, since I know Ukrainians better than you, I don't see them submitting to an invader in the way Republicans obviously would.
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Russia didn't take Ukraine by force. Pro-Russian Ukraine was taken by violent force by means of a US-supported coup in 2014. Their elected president fled for his life. Trade unionists were burned alive in their meeting hall.
All these years of whining about Russian aggression could be called a comedy of hypocrisy- if it wasn't for the hundreds of thousands of people killed by US efforts to squeeze the Russian out of pro-Russian, Russian-speaking Ukrainians.
Russia didn't take Crimea. Russia took Crimea BACK.

You've been a supporter of Ukrainian neo-Nazis all this time, Cypress. As much as I loathe Tromp my schadenfreude has hit record highs that hypocrites, such as yourself, are likely getting your neo-Nazi asses kicked out of Ukraine.
 
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Damocles said:
You know for a fact that I did not, so will you answer the question if I repeat it?

Do you support ending the war now, even if Ukraine must give concessions, or do you feel that we should fund them forever until every last Ukrainian youth is dead?
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wasn't it awesome how clear and commandng little Pete hegseth was on the issue?

fucking awesome.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
As always, you are full of shit.

I never supported Bush or his moronic war.

Bush the Eviler started this shit for Kuwait, who was slant drilling to steal oil from the Iraqis. Saddam was a bad guy, but Iran is vastly worse. We attacked the wrong target. Every person in Kuwait is not worth the blood of a single American.
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Oh Sybil, but some of your socks did. LOL
 
Damocles said:
 No. It is a "game" of what has been proposed. Do you support an end or do you think we should let Russia kill more North Korean Troops and Ukrainians?
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"Support an end" is intentionally unclear, undefined, and nebulous.

What exactly does that mean, and what do you mean "what has been proposed"? On what terms is this "end" you are vaguely alluding to based on?


Do you support leaving it to the Ukrainians to decide on their war strategies, and what if any concessions they are willing to make?

Why do you feel your opinion should trump the Ukrainian government's opinions?
 
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