Bishop Budde Awakened Conservative Christians

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The President, being not a Christian, didn't get the message.

Millions of Christians in churches around the world heard the same passage on Sunday from the Gospel of Luke. In it, Jesus declares his intentions “to proclaim good news to the poor,” as he speaks to people gathered in a synagogue in Nazareth.

At Episcopal Church of the Transfiguration in Dallas, the passage felt particularly appropriate this week, though it was chosen years ago as part of a three-year cycle of Bible readings.

“It’s Jesus 101,” said Michelle Williams, 55, a parishioner at the church.

It was the first Sunday since a fellow Episcopalian, Bishop Mariann E. Budde, delivered a sermon that many observers heard as an echo of passages like the one from Luke. Speaking at a prayer service at the National Cathedral in Washington the day after President Trump’s inauguration, she faced the president and made a direct plea: “Have mercy.”

After the service, Mr. Trump called Bishop Budde a “Radical Left hard line Trump hater” in a social media post. His foes immediately hailed her as an icon of the resistance. But for many progressive Christians and their leaders, the confrontation was more than a moment of political catharsis. It was about more than Mr. Trump. It was an eloquent expression of basic Christian theology, expressed in an extraordinarily public forum.
Sara Ivey, 71, another parishioner at Church of the Transfiguration, said the sermon reminded her of Psalm 103, which describes God as “merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love.” The sermon, which she watched live, made her “very proud to be an Episcopalian,” she said.
Bishop Budde’s sermon delivered a jolt of energy in many mainline Protestant churches, whose numbers and influence have declined steeply from a high point in the middle of the last century. Some mainline Christians have sensed an unsettling whiff of irrelevance that has accelerated in the Trump era, as Mr. Trump has elevated a stream of conservative, political Christianity whose leaders in some cases do not even consider Bishop Budde a fellow Christian.

So it was startling for many progressive Christians and their leaders to see Bishop Budde’s sermon overpower the prayers that were delivered at the inauguration by clergy members who are more sympathetic to Mr. Trump — and to see her rely primarily on theological principles themselves, rather than advocating specific policies.

“A plea for mercy, a recognition of the stranger in our midst, is core to the faith,” Presiding Bishop Sean Rowe, the Episcopal Church’s top clerical leader, said in an interview. “It is radical, given the order of the world around us — it is countercultural — but it’s not bound to political ideology.”


 
You open up judging the faith of President Trump.
You say;
"The President, being not a Christian, didn't get the message."

Matthew 7:1-3 New International Version (NIV)“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
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No doubt Tucker and Trump have talked about what this church has become.....Tucker a life long member has very little good to say about it.

"This is not a Christian organization at all,this is a very angry, hateful organization run by dreadfully unhappy middle-aged lesbians, which is exactly what it is. So only by showing that in public can it ever be forced to reform."


His father in law is a Episcopal priest.
 
No doubt Tucker and Trump have talked about what this church has become.....Tucker a life long member has very little good to say about it.




His father in law is an Episcopal priest.
Who? The guy fired for lying?
 
You open up judging the faith of President Trump.
You say;
"The President, being not a Christian, didn't get the message."

Matthew 7:1-3 New International Version (NIV)“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
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“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them." -- Jesus, Matthew 7:15-20
 
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them." -- Jesus, Matthew 7:15-20
Don't know of any prophets in the Trump administration.
 
So it was startling for many progressive Christians and their leaders to see Bishop Budde’s sermon overpower the prayers that were delivered at the inauguration by clergy members who are more sympathetic to Mr. Trump — and to see her rely primarily on theological principles themselves, rather than advocating specific policies.

“A plea for mercy, a recognition of the stranger in our midst, is core to the faith,” Presiding Bishop Sean Rowe, the Episcopal Church’s top clerical leader, said in an interview. “It is radical, given the order of the world around us — it is countercultural — but it’s not bound to political ideology.”
Regardless of how one feels about Christianity, an overarching agenda of the New Testament is to raise up the poor, the weak, the oppressed, and to lay low the rich and powerful. That's what made it it so radical for it's time.

To the atheist Trump and his entourage of prosperity gospel Christians, a theological message of that nature is as toxic to them as sunlight is to a vampire
 
Regardless of how one feels about Christianity, an overarching agenda of the New Testament is to raise up the poor, the weak, the oppressed, and to lay low the rich and powerful. That's what made it it so radical for it's time.

To the atheist Trump and his entourage of prosperity gospel Christians, a theological message of that nature is as toxic to them as sunlight is to a vampire

Well said, thank you. That is also the appeal of Islam to the downtrodden and the poor. Both religions have been twisted by power-hungry amoral leaders into something that supports their leadership.
 
Well said, thank you. That is also the appeal of Islam to the downtrodden and the poor. Both religions have been twisted by power-hungry amoral leaders into something that supports their leadership.
Good point.
I feel like the way to approach that as a genuinely religious person is to attempt to emulate the example of Christ, not the example of other Christians or Church leaders.
 
You open up judging the faith of President Trump.
You say;
"The President, being not a Christian, didn't get the message."

Matthew 7:1-3 New International Version (NIV)“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
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Almost Marco, Trump is a mammon-worshiper, not a Christian.

I ❤️ Irony. You judging others while quoting Jesus.
 
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