A lesson from California...

[Cancel 2016.2]

Fix your quote boxes to that post above and I'll respond. Just an FYI, that bill that passed in 1999 passed the State Senate 35-0 and the Assembly 70-7. Laying the blame on Davis, who happened to be governor at the time, is laughable.

YOU are the one who brought up who was in the governors office at the time dipshit. I was simply responding.

AS I STATED.... WHO CONTROLLED THE STATE CONGRESS????

 

[Bonestorm]

YOU are the one who brought up who was in the governors office at the time dipshit. I was simply responding.

AS I STATED.... WHO CONTROLLED THE STATE CONGRESS????

Well, according to you the unions apparently had the Senate on lockdown (35-0 vote in favor of that particular bill) and controlled 91% of the Assembly (70-7). If that doesn't sound like bullshit to you, you ought to get your bullshit detector checked out. It seems to be on the fritz.

 

[Bonestorm]

Again.... READ the FUCKING ARTICLE..... He got his bribes from the prison guards and cops, got elected, then proceeded to hand them a massive raise. THAT is what happens when you are able to elect your masters.

AGAIN... it is not just who was governor. You continue to ignore who CONTROLLED THE STATE CONGRESS. Even in years where there is a Rep Governor... the numbers of Dems in Congress killed any attempts to reduce the power of the unions. Ask Arnold about that... or look back to the teachers getting their guarantee of 40% of revenues.

"The CTA entered the big time in 1988, when it almost single-handedly led a statewide push to pass Proposition 98, an initiative—opposed by taxpayer groups and Governor George Deukmejian—that required 40 percent of the state’s budget to fund local education."

So even when there was a Rep Governor, the unions were still able to pass it through the State Assembly with enough power to mute the Governor.

Lot's to unpack there. First, the "bribes from the prison guards" bullshit I'm not going to take seriously. I'll chalk it up to you emoting.

And your example of the unions, through the legislature, bucking the power of the governor is stupid. Propositions are voted on directly by the people. Apparently the unions not only have the legislature in hock, but they have the entire voting public in California under their thumb.

That is the biggest line of bullshit I have heard from you in a while and that is saying a LOT. A person could ALWAYS be paid more you idiot. So you could run around stating that the whole world is forgoing salary today. That is absurd. If they are making the most IN their profession AND their average salary is HIGHER than that of the average private sector employee with similar education levels, then they ARE NOT FORGOING SALARY.

Yes, they are. You mean to tell me that pensions are not compensation for work? That's basically what you are arguing.

So in your warped little world of the braindead, you don't believe the amount of money a campaign has available to it has any bearing on the election? You think it is simply a matter of head count?

Seriously, your level of hackery has gone up tenfold in the past few years.

I was simply responding to what you wrote. You wrote that unions can elect their bosses. That's obviously not the case. I'll accept you backtracking as evidence that you misspoke.

 

[TuTu Monroe]

Ahhh it's the illegal aliens. According to S&P, that bastion of liberalism, undocumented workers account or between 6 and 7 BILLION dollars a year to Social Security which is placed in an "earnings suspense file" and will never be claimed against.[1] If these undocumented workers went away, it would hurt the economy more than it would help. Prices would go up, and tax revenues would go down because undocumented workers pay sales tax, and property tax either directly or indirectly. See note one for all of this information. While I anticipate AHZ reaction to this, I am not saying we should encourage an influx of undocumented workers, I am just saying that their harm to the economy is greatly exagerated. But like SF I am sure that the BW article will not be read by the "blame the wetback" crowd anymore than his was read by the "unions are great crowd."

BS, most of these guys are paid in cash, so the employer doesn't have to report it. Why are you insulting them by calling them "wetbacks?" We have over 3 million illegals here in California. Most of them are good people.