Zelenskyy now says he will sign the deal...

BartenderElite said:
It's so personal w/ Trump.

This is one of the big issues w/ having an insecure narcissist as President. Policy decisions based more on his own feelings rather than on what's best for America & the world.
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Yes, America voted for the person who will do what’s best for America…first.

The rest of the world comes next and they need to step up, commit their blood and treasure and help pull the wagon.

You think President Trump is insecure? Really?

This is why you lost the election, you have no clue.
 
Damocles said:
I was hopeful that something could be done to get it signed though. Having interests there gives the US incentive to help, add security, and to actually maintain a presence depending on how the "peace" looks afterward. Telling them they are "on their own" like that was not quite what I was expecting. Zelenskyy and Trump in a penis measuring contest... <smh>...

That being said, it looks like we may have a path back to the deal.
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... probably because Trump reminded Zelenskyy's handlers who has the bigger penis. I figured it wouldn't take very long for Zelenskyy's handlers to change course on this.
 
Jarod said:
Gay marriage is a requirement to be a Western Style nation?
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Well I just know how important that issue is to you leftists. I seem to recall it was the “civil rights issue of our time”. So one would wonder why you would support a country so antithetical to your beliefs
 
BartenderElite said:
They have elections, a constitution, and very similar freedoms to us (in times of peace, of course).

You seem to be parroting more of Trump's warped worldview on this topic than anything related to reality. Just an observation.
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Oh so you like their stance on gay marriage? Them just ripping young men off the street to go fight? That is consistent with your beliefs? Good to know. When will you sign up to go fight with them? Zelensky is on record saying he wants American boots on the ground. Do you agree? Will you go chickenhawk?
 
Earl said:
Yes, America voted for the person who will do what’s best for America…first.

The rest of the world comes next and they need to step up, commit their blood and treasure and help pull the wagon.

You think President Trump is insecure? Really?

This is why you lost the election, you have no clue.
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Donald Trump is one of the most insecure men who has ever served in public life. You don't see that? He has incredibly thin skin.
 
Teflon Don said:
Oh so you like their stance on gay marriage? Them just ripping young men off the street to go fight? That is consistent with your beliefs? Good to know. When will you sign up to go fight with them? Zelensky is on record saying he wants American boots on the ground. Do you agree? Will you go chickenhawk?
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You sound triggered.

We haven't always allowed gay marriage here, and there is a pretty big push to get that reversed now in many places. Is America not a western style nation?
 
BartenderElite said:
You sound triggered.

We haven't always allowed gay marriage here, and there is a pretty big push to get that reversed now in many places. Is America not a western style nation?
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Do western style nations rip young men off the streets to conscript them into a war they don’t want to fight.

Your cognitive dissonance slip is showing.

Is Ukraine important enough to you to put boots on the ground?
 
Phantasmal said:
Yet, they are articulating a plan that they will present to the USA. The United States usually does it the other way around. It’s different this time.
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I'm good with that. However pretending that they are ignoring the USA is only pretense and, as I said, they absolutely know that no plan will work without the buy in from the USA. This is Diplomacy. Somehow I believe that leftists who called him a "Dictator" and "Fascist" are now going to tell me he should have told them how it was going to go. Europe has a stake, and Trump has said they need to do something... It seems like Diplomacy is still happening. Unlike Biden, who has had no contact with Russia from the jump.
 
Teflon Don said:
Do western style nations rip young men off the streets to conscript them into a war they don’t want to fight.

Your cognitive dissonance slip is showing.

Is Ukraine important enough to you to put boots on the ground?
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Assuming you're an American you ought to learn the country's war history.
 
Damocles said:
I'm good with that. However pretending that they are ignoring the USA is only pretense and, as I said, they absolutely know that no plan will work without the buy in from the USA. This is Diplomacy. Somehow I believe that leftists who called him a "Dictator" and "Fascist" are now going to tell me he should have told them how it was going to go. Europe has a stake, and Trump has said they need to do something... It seems like Diplomacy is still happening. Unlike Biden, who has had no contact with Russia from the jump.
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Trump doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the wall.

He’s angry about Russia, Russia, Russia still.
That’s all he thinks about, and getting the Nobel Peace Prize. His ideas are the last people who had his ear.

Biden gave Zelenskyy the lead. It is a sovereign nation, after all. Biden knew Russia was the aggressor, unlike Trump, and Vance. They mistakenly think Russia fears them. Putin knows Trump is his puppet.
 
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Teflon Don said:
Oh so you like their stance on gay marriage? Them just ripping young men off the street to go fight? That is consistent with your beliefs? Good to know. When will you sign up to go fight with them? Zelensky is on record saying he wants American boots on the ground. Do you agree? Will you go chickenhawk?
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The us about your military service :unsure:
 
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