If You Feel Like Getting Angry

[zappasguitar]

Demonstrate the Tuskegee experiments? Do you know nothing of history?

Tuskegee syphilis experiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wallow in ignorance if you wish, but the government has one of the worst possible records in the arena of health care. Believing wholeheartedly in the benevolence of government... bless your innocence, but please stop thrusting the consequences of it onto others.

Could you possibly be a bigger condescending douchebag?

OF COURSE I've heard of and read ALL ABOUT the Tuskegee experiment, but why should that stop you from stooping for another double handful of your patented condescension.

YOU mentioned Gulf War vets with breast cancer, THOSE are the people I was asking you about, so thanks once again for not jumping to conclusions and allowing that leap to dictate your reply.

 

[Damocles]

Could you possibly be a bigger condescending douchebag?

OF COURSE I've heard of and read ALL ABOUT the Tuskegee experiment, but why should that stop you from stooping for another double handful of your patented condescension.

YOU mentioned Gulf War vets with breast cancer, THOSE are the people I was asking you about, so thanks once again for not jumping to conclusions and allowing that leap to dictate your reply.

Yet you demanded I demonstrate this vile purpose that I spoke of when directly referencing the Tuskegee experiments?

Condescending, yes. Deservedly so.

See http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/09/25/marines.breast.cancer.folo/index.html

My memory failed on two of the facts, it is 20 Marines, and they got sick here in the US.

 

[Canceled2]

The government does not ration care now and will not ration care under the ACA, whereas the insurance industry does indeed ration care under the status quo. That's my point.

And frankly, I was under the impression that pretty much everyone would agree that the practices detailed in the article were, to put it plainly, fucked up. I suppose I was wrong.

The government DOES and WILL ration care. Private insurance is clear about what a policy covers and does not cover. If you agree to its terms that is your choice.

What the carrier in your article did is misfeasance. They got busted by government regulators...that's the proper role of government.

As it stands now, the 3 women had a legitimate grievance and had it redressed.

My personal experience with seeking government redress against insurance companies was very satifactory because the laws regulating insurance are very clear. The avenues for registering a complaint are easy; the response quick!

 

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The government does not ration care now and will not ration care under the ACA, whereas the insurance industry does indeed ration care under the status quo. That's my point.

You are delusional if you think they are not going to limit care.

And frankly, I was under the impression that pretty much everyone would agree that the practices detailed in the article were, to put it plainly, fucked up. I suppose I was wrong.

and frankly, as mentioned by others, you are foolish if you believe that disagreement with you regarding the government plan somehow equates to thinking the insurance companies practices are ok.

 

[Bonestorm]

If you feel like getting angry...

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/09/25/marines.breast.cancer.folo/index.html

Camp Legeune Marines, 20 men denied VA benefits as the government desperately tries to deny a link.

Yeah, the beneficence of government is something we should all have to rely on...

Again, the legislation protects those people in government who later will be making these decisions, and allows an upper limit to care. It's awesome.

Can't we be angry at both? It's not an either/or proposition as you seem to think.

And if the "legislation" that you are referring to in bold is the recently passed healthcare reform law, everything you wrote in that sentence is just not true. You're lying. Why?

 

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Could you possibly be a bigger condescending douchebag?

Uhhh....hmmmm...Ahem....

No one, I repeat NO ONE, can be a BIGGER, more condescending, putrid douchebag than you Zappy.

You hate it don'tcha'?

"Just a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down".

 

[Damocles]

Can't we be angry at both? It's not an either/or proposition as you seem to think.

And if the "legislation" that you are referring to in bold is the recently passed healthcare reform law, everything you wrote in that sentence is just not true. You're lying. Why?

I'm not lying. And when I have more time I will provide links since you will pretend that there is no upper limit otherwise.

 

[Damocles]

Can't we be angry at both? It's not an either/or proposition as you seem to think.

And if the "legislation" that you are referring to in bold is the recently passed healthcare reform law, everything you wrote in that sentence is just not true. You're lying. Why?

And yes, we can be angry at both, however we are subject to one.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

I don't want to hear another word about "death panels."

The only death panels are the ones that should be instated for the insurance company execs who approved this policy.

 

[tinfoil]

Please provide examples of the government dropping people from Medicare, Medicaid, Tricare, or SCHIP on the basis of pre-existing conditions.

Jesus christ, try to follow the argument, you dipshit

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

When I opened this thread, I was like, who could possibly have objection to this obvious and clear moral issue? Who could support the execution of innocent Americans to the profit of insurance corporations?

Conservatives. Of course. Fucking conservatives. Fucking scum.

 

[tinfoil]

How is that a "worse" past? What is worse than regular, arbitrary denials of coverage, based on quotas?

That's absurd. I guarantee you more people were denied coverage w/ the old status quo than will ever be denied under the new plan.

LOL says the bailout proponent

You are always wrong, dumbass

 

[tinfoil]

Why? What's the connection?

What's ironic to me is that you guys advocate forcing all of us to enrich these assholes. That'll teach em.

The problem is that you useful idiots believe the false dichotomy that one either wants more government interference in your health care or you support the insurance companies.

Exactly.

 

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just a small sample of medicare refusals of service with a simple google....

Medicare & Alzheimer's - Full Circle of Care Caregiver WebsiteIf these services… were ordered by your doctor, and; were provided by an appropriate provider, but Medicare refused to pay for them …you should appeal ...
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Physicians refuse Medicare patients as reimbursements shrink.(The ...Physicians refuse Medicare patients as reimbursements shrink.(The Virginian-Pilot) ... find Knight Ridder/Tribune News Service articles. div ...
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If Medicare Refuses To Pay, Is Medical Malpractice Involved ...Feb 6, 2010 ... This service cannot be paid when provided in this location/facility. This is written on the Medicare summary. Why would a government agency ...
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Medicare: How to Appeal a Medicare Refusal to PayAnd, like any other health plan, Medicare sometimes wrongly refuses to pay for ... You have the right to appeal any decision about your Medicare services. ...
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17 Medicare FactsWith few exceptions, Medicare recipients cannot pay cash for a Medicare-covered service that Medicare denies. *, Initially refusing to enroll in Medicare ...
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