Time goes forward @ 2AM in most places in the US; is it time to LOCK THE CLOCK?
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Pros of DST
The debate’s heated because the benefits—like energy savings—don’t hold up as well in 2025 as they did in 1918 when DST gained traction during World War I.
Meanwhile, the health downsides feel more pressing in a world obsessed with wellness. Some places, like parts of the U.S. and Europe, keep tinkering with the idea of scrapping it altogether.
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- Energy Savings (in Theory)
- Historically, DST was introduced to save energy by reducing the need for artificial lighting in the evening. The idea is that people use less electricity when daylight extends later. Studies like those from the U.S. Department of Energy in 2008 suggested modest savings (about 0.5% daily electricity reduction), though modern research debates its effectiveness today.
- Boost to Outdoor Activities
- Longer evenings encourage people to spend time outside after work or school—think sports, shopping, or just enjoying the day. Retail and recreation industries often support DST because it can increase consumer activity.
- Potential Safety Benefits
- More daylight in the evening might reduce traffic accidents and crime, as studies (e.g., from the Journal of Safety Research) have linked better visibility to fewer collisions. The logic is simple: people are more active when it’s light out, and criminals prefer the cover of darkness.
- Alignment with Human Schedules
- DST shifts daylight to match when most people are awake and active, especially in summer. It feels more natural to have light at 8 PM than at 4 AM when everyone’s asleep.
- Health Disruptions
- The time switch messes with our circadian rhythms. Research, like from the American Academy of Sleep Medicine, shows increased risks of heart attacks, strokes, and sleep deprivation in the days following the spring shift. It’s like jet lag without the travel.
- Questionable Energy Savings
- Modern lifestyles—air conditioning, heating, and constant device use—have eroded DST’s energy benefits. Some studies (e.g., in Indiana after adopting DST in 2006) even found increased energy consumption due to more AC use in warmer, longer evenings.
- Economic and Social Costs
- The transition periods confuse schedules—missed appointments, late workers, and disrupted international business. Farmers often hate it too, as livestock don’t follow clocks, and early morning darkness delays fieldwork.
- It’s Just Annoying
- Let’s be real: changing clocks twice a year is a hassle. Public opinion polls (like a 2022 YouGov survey) show many people want to ditch DST entirely, often favoring permanent standard time instead.
The debate’s heated because the benefits—like energy savings—don’t hold up as well in 2025 as they did in 1918 when DST gained traction during World War I.
Meanwhile, the health downsides feel more pressing in a world obsessed with wellness. Some places, like parts of the U.S. and Europe, keep tinkering with the idea of scrapping it altogether.
@Grok
Don't forget, retards.
Daylight Saving Time (DST) rules vary widely by country, with some observing it, others having abolished it, and many never adopting it at all. Below is a breakdown of DST rules as of March 9, 2025, based on common practices and recent trends.
Since rules can change, this reflects the most typical patterns, and I’ll note where variations or exceptions exist. If you want specifics for a particular country, feel free to ask!
Countries That Observe DST (as of 2025)
These countries typically advance clocks by one hour in spring and revert in fall, though exact dates and times differ:
@Grok
Daylight Saving Time (DST) rules vary widely by country, with some observing it, others having abolished it, and many never adopting it at all. Below is a breakdown of DST rules as of March 9, 2025, based on common practices and recent trends.
Since rules can change, this reflects the most typical patterns, and I’ll note where variations or exceptions exist. If you want specifics for a particular country, feel free to ask!
Countries That Observe DST (as of 2025)
These countries typically advance clocks by one hour in spring and revert in fall, though exact dates and times differ:
- United States:
- Start: Second Sunday in March (March 9, 2025) at 2:00 AM local time (clocks move to 3:00 AM).
- End: First Sunday in November (November 2, 2025) at 2:00 AM local time (clocks move to 1:00 AM).
- Exceptions: Arizona (except Navajo Nation), Hawaii, and U.S. territories (e.g., Puerto Rico, Guam) do not observe DST.
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anonymoose
Classical Liberal
Grok omitted Annette Island, Alaska.
Remind me April 9.
Yes. DST is too artificial. Time zones are too but DST more so.
Remind me April 9.
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
Then I’ll have to put a reminder in my iPhone.
You could always move to the southern hemisphere in the winter months, and return to the US when we get more sunlight hours.
