"People Are Going Silent", Fearing Retribution

martin said:
The opinion article is largely quoted. The New York Times, in its normal editorial style, respected the President as a "Mr." because he isn't a "Mrs."
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They actually refer to *all* public figures and interviewees with "Mr." or "Ms." This article is not an opinion piece as Toxic claims, but then most of her claims are bullshit. lol
 
martin said:
She is right. The article is observation, not opinion.
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martin said:
Then read it again, if just the last two paragraphs.
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From the OP. This is quite obviously NOT "opinion," as much as your Klingon wants it to be. This is chilling, in fact:

"Not everyone is staying silent. Consider Michael Roth, the president of Wesleyan University.

“This is the greatest pressure put on intellectual life since the McCarthy era,” Mr. Roth said in an interview. “And I think it’ll be seen in the future, as that time was seen, as a time when people either stood up for their values or ran in fear of the federal government.”

"Mr. Roth has called some of the Trump administration’s rhetoric authoritarian and has spoken out in favor of diversity, equity and inclusion programs. In an interview in The Washington Post’s opinion section last month, he criticized Mr. Trump, Vice President JD Vance and Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida for using their Ivy League degrees to advance professionally while portraying themselves as populists against “woke” universities."
 
I found the entire article (no author, thoug-just a nod back to the Times)...A few do seem to have concerns, but for the most part, no one seems to be afraid to speak their minds and stand up for what they believe in...so very overblown claims...
I'll let you have your thread back now...sorry for the disruption...but it's inevitable around here...that TDS...;). DEI programs are gone, very thankfully...
 
TOP said:
It's an opinion article that's posted here...I don't seen actual evidence of people going silent because they're going to be attacked online by the President or anyone else...only someone who believes that might be the case...
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The two paragraphs below from the posted segment are assertions of fact:

"Mr. Trump ran in 2024 promising retribution against his enemies and has quickly sent menacing signals from the White House. He revoked the security details of high-profile critics like Gen. Mark A. Milley, a retired Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman who faces death threats from Iran, and said he would pull the security clearances of lawyers at a prominent law firm who are representing Jack Smith, the special counsel who investigated him.

One prominent first-term critic of Mr. Trump said in a recent interview that not only would he not comment on the record, he did not want to be mentioned in this article at all. Every time his name appears in public, he said, the threats against him from the far right increase...."

(For example, the writer isn't opining that the unnamed critic received threats, he's reporting what the person told him.)
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
From the OP. This is quite obviously NOT "opinion," as much as your Klingon wants it to be. This is chilling, in fact:

"Not everyone is staying silent. Consider Michael Roth, the president of Wesleyan University.

“This is the greatest pressure put on intellectual life since the McCarthy era,” Mr. Roth said in an interview. “And I think it’ll be seen in the future, as that time was seen, as a time when people either stood up for their values or ran in fear of the federal government.”

"Mr. Roth has called some of the Trump administration’s rhetoric authoritarian and has spoken out in favor of diversity, equity and inclusion programs. In an interview in The Washington Post’s opinion section last month, he criticized Mr. Trump, Vice President JD Vance and Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida for using their Ivy League degrees to advance professionally while portraying themselves as populists against “woke” universities."
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keep talking about your dumb ideas.

I champion free speech.
 
TOP said:
I found the entire article (no author, thoug-just a nod back to the Times)...A few do seem to have concerns, but for the most part, no one seems to be afraid to speak their minds and stand up for what they believe in...so very overblown claims...
I'll let you have your thread back now...sorry for the disruption...but it's inevitable around here...that TDS...;). DEI programs are gone, very thankfully...
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Did you see that report that now that MAGA is inside we are finding out that under the so-called Biden administration DIE inside the government and pushed by the government (and the governments NGO's) outside of the government was substantially worse than almost anyone thought?

More evidence that had Trump not been declared the winner it would have been all over....the Revolution was very close to complete success......they had to only get passed that election.

I say almost no one knew but I was hearing people say that last NOV election was our last chance.
 
martin said:
The two paragraphs below from the posted segment are assertions of fact:

"Mr. Trump ran in 2024 promising retribution against his enemies and has quickly sent menacing signals from the White House. He revoked the security details of high-profile critics like Gen. Mark A. Milley, a retired Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman who faces death threats from Iran, and said he would pull the security clearances of lawyers at a prominent law firm who are representing Jack Smith, the special counsel who investigated him.

One prominent first-term critic of Mr. Trump said in a recent interview that not only would he not comment on the record, he did not want to be mentioned in this article at all. Every time his name appears in public, he said, the threats against him from the far right increase...."

(For example, the writer isn't opining that the unnamed critic received threats, he's reporting what the person told him.)
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It's not factual if you won't allow your name to appear in public and there's not proof of "threats against him increase from the far right"...but as I mentioned, I found the entire article...there are several specific examples of concern. for safely..but nothing of any magnitude...
Threats can be annoying , though, and should always be documented and investigated...
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Did you see that report that now that MAGA is inside we are finding out that under the so-called Biden administration DIE inside the government and pushed by the government (and the governments NGO's) outside of the government was substantially worse than almost anyone thought?

More evidence that had Trump not been declared the winner it would have been all over....the Revolution was very close to complete success......they had to only get passed that election.

I say almost no one knew but I was hearing people say that last NOV election was our last chance.
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Things are much much worse than anyone ever imagined... Just wait... Thankfully enough people realized that it would have been all over if she somehow had prevailed... I was never actually worried about that happening though...There's just no way She could win especially after she said she wouldn't change anything...;)
 
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