Remember when lefties thought Elon was an angel and righties hated Tesla?

[Diogenes]

@Damocles was the only commentator I could find who hasn't changed his tune.

http://autos.msn.com/as/minishow/article.aspx?contentID=4024172&s=Pebble2006

There are a number of sports cars on the market that can reach 60 mph in around 4 seconds—Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Porsches, Vipers, Corvettes—and all of these cars make this acceleration run with great fanfare. With their powerful V8s, V10s and V12s, roaring sounds come from the engine as the gas pedal goes down, and the waste from burning fuel is expelled out as exhaust.

Imagine a car that can provide that same acceleration and performance, yet there's no powerful rumble from under the hood, no burning fuel and therefore no exhaust. This car is real and it's called the Tesla Roadster.

More at the link...

Tesla Motors pays back Government loan EARLY!

NINE YEARS early!!

Tesla Motors CEO Elon Musk said Thursday that U.S. taxpayers made a substantial profit from a government loan provided to the all-electric carmaker.

“It really feels good to have repaid the U.S. taxpayer,” he told Bloomberg WEST. “That’s really what’s important here, and we didn’t just repay the principle, we actually repaid it with interest and a bonus payment. Ultimately, the U.S. taxpayer actually made a profit of over $12 million on this loan. So, in fact, for this loan at least, people’s tax bill actually went slightly down.”

Musk noted Tesla was “attacked a lot in certain quarters” for being awarded the $465 million loan from the U.S. Energy Department in 2010. Conservatives like presidential candidate Mitt Romney, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and Fox Business host Lou Dobbs described the company as “losers.”

“I think it actually matters to some consumers out there whether a company does have a government debt,” Musk said. “Being able to say we’ve fully repaid that debt with interest I think is helpful to some number of people out there.”

Tesla announced Wednesday it had completely paid off the loan nine years earlier than required.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/...-over-12-million-profit-on-tesla-motors-loan/

A testimony to retarded liberal policies that will lead this nation towards Detroitism.

Maybe this is why Tesla finally had a profit?

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To get more electric cars on the road, the state also offers consumers $2,500 rebates financed by a $20 "smog abatement fee," which all drivers in the state must pay for their first six registration years. The rebate is on top of the $7,500 federal tax credit and $1,000 or more the state pays drivers to retire their gas guzzlers. The combined government incentives can reduce the price of a Nissan electric Leaf to about $18,000.

But wait: According to state survey data, the typical rebate recipient earns over $150,000 and owns at least one other non-electric car. About 80% hail from the Bay Area, Los Angeles and Orange County. The most popular car among rebate recipients this year has been Tesla's Model S sports sedan, which runs between about $70,000 and $100,000.

As a side note, California last year also awarded Tesla a $10 million grant to develop its Model X SUV and $756,000 in funds for "workforce training." As a recent state assembly analysis of the vehicle subsidies notes, "everyone benefits from clean air, but some of the beneficiaries are more equal than others."

Meantime, demand for rebates among the well-to-do is surging, which has created a funding squeeze. In March, the state had to create a waiting list. While the legislature appropriated an additional $15 million for rebates in June, the program is already running on empty and needs at least $30 million more to meet demand in the coming year.

Perhaps one of the most famous entrepreneurial capitalists and futurists of our time, Tesla Motors CEO Elon Musk, suggested in November that a solution to this future may be a universal basic income. This an increasingly popular proposal among policy wonks that would provide a fixed income to every single human being. (Artificially intelligent robots need not apply.) “There is a pretty good chance we end up with a universal basic income, or something like that, due to automation,” said Musk. “I am not sure what else one would do. I think that is what would happen.”

This is certainly the right way to approach the coming transformation. Rather than attempting to stop the irreversible tide of economic development — a futile and self-destructive approach that might look something like Trump’s economic platform, such as waging pointless trade wars and threatening to deport millions of undocumented immigrants who do the work that most Americans reject — we must think of viable solutions that could avert a dystopian future where a small class of super-rich plutocrats live a life of leisure and abundance, isolated from the impoverished and exploited masses who live a Hobbesian nightmare.

Tesla and SpaceX chief executive Elon Musk is stepping down from several Trump administration advisory councils after the president announced on Thursday that the US will withdraw from the Paris climate agreement.

Musk, who sits on Trump's economic advisory council as well as a manufacturing group, threatened to quit on Wednesday, amid news reports that the president would pull the US from the climate accord, which has been ratified by 147 countries.

Musk, whose electric car company Tesla's stated mission is "to accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable energy," is widely viewed as a clean energy luminary.

In February, Uber CEO Travis Kalanick stepped down from Trump's economic advisory council following backlash from customers and protests outside the ride-hail giant's San Francisco headquarters. Hours later, Musk said he would remain on Trump's advisory councils to "serve the greater good."

Some Tesla customers had canceled their Model 3 orders over Musk's relationship with Trump, BuzzFeed News reported in January.

In Paris at the COP21 climate conference in 2015, Musk called addressing climate change is "fundamentally is a government issue."

"I think hopefully what comes out of the climate talks in Paris is that the governments of the world, they have to put their foot down and they say five years from now let's say, there has to be a huge change and that companies know for sure that this is going to happen," he said.

Following in Musk's steps, Walt Disney CEO Bob Iger also announced he was resigning from Trump's White House Advisory Council, tweeting that it was a "matter of principle."

Suppose gun companies bragged about guns DESIGNED to break the law and kill innocent people.!!! Musk makes manson look like a choir boy.

Why would they vandalize Teslas? They're cool cars. I'm buying one next year.

The morons dont know about the cameras. https://insideevs.com/news/379678/video-tesla-hate-exposed-explored/

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/23/elo...eceived-146000-orders-for-its-cybertruck.html

The Democratic swing has been so pronounced that President Donald Trump's campaign views Minnesota — a state that hasn't voted for a GOP presidential candidate since 1972 — as friendlier territory than Nevada. When Democrats caucus here Saturday to pick their preferred nominee for president, there will be 165,000 more total registered Democrats in Nevada than in 2008, the first time the state held its closely watched contest.


A tech boom — spurred by companies like Tesla, Apple and Microsoft — has drawn the young and college-educated, demographic groups that lean left as do Hispanics who made up 29% of Nevada's population in 2019, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. The uneducated cracka billies in camo are being marginalized to the shrinking jesusland states

Tesla is a scam and musk is a con-man. Behind every great fortune, there is a crime.

Even Joe Crapitalist has shut his cake hole so it must be bad!

As global demand starts to slow, share prices tank and Tesla cuts 10% of the workforce....are car giants ready to slam the brakes on electric revolution?

Drive a Tesla and get back to us. Another thing EVs have is they are fun to drive.

Tesla produced 433,371 Teslas. It delivered just 386,810, meaning there were about 47,000 extra Teslas around, more than double what it was a year ago and its biggest imbalance to date.

If you don't like electric cars I suggest you don't fucking buy one.

GEICO is Terminating Insurance Coverage of Tesla Cybertrucks, Says “This Type of Vehicle Doesn't Meet Our Underwriting Guidelines”​

This is wrong. Tesla is a product of the Green / environmental movement and government in collusion. Tesla would have failed decades ago without massive government subsidies and tax breaks.

Translated:

You get a dent on one of those mutherfuckers and we're out $10,000 in repair bills! Ain't gonna happen. Good luck trying to find an insurer that will cover your POS truck!

 

[Diogenes]

Some people are mad at Trump for showing off Teslas at the White House today, but in 2021, Biden held an EV summit and invited GM, Ford, and Stellantis—but not Tesla. He showed off an all-electric Hummer EV and a Jeep Wrangler Hybrid.Teslas are the #1 most American-made cars. Unlike GM, Ford, and Stellantis, every Tesla sold in America is built in America by American workers. Tesla's Fremont factory in California is the single most productive auto plant in North America.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1899646455788572712

View: https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1899646455788572712

 

[Diogenes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1899534199591153794

View: https://x.com/Scavino47/status/1899534199591153794

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I disliked Tesla years ago, and continue to dislike Tesla today. Has nothing to do with Musk, and everything to do with them making a shitty product and it being a worthless EV.

 

[Hawkeye10]

I disliked Tesla years ago, and continue to dislike Tesla today. Has nothing to do with Musk, and everything to do with them making a shitty product and it being a worthless EV.

Promising and then not delivering anything like the timeline teased....or sometimes at all....or near the price teased.....is a problem.

 

[Diogenes]

I disliked Tesla years ago, and continue to dislike Tesla today. Has nothing to do with Musk, and everything to do with them making a shitty product and it being a worthless EV.

Nothing to do with Musk?

How are Teslas "a shitty product"?

Why you so say they're "a worthless EV"?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Nothing to do with Musk?

How are Teslas "a shitty product"?

Why you so say they're "a worthless EV"?

Nothing to do with Musk?

How are Teslas "a shitty product"?

Tesla's Quality Control Is So Bad Customers Are Taking Delivery Inspections Into Their Own Hands

Tesla’s build quality problems are well known; from panel gaps to crummy interiors to glass roofs that just fly off for no reason, it’s safe to say customers should be on the lookout when they purchase a brand-new Tesla. The Cybertruck has been just as bad as previous models, despite its over...

www.jalopnik.com

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/27/jd-power-tesla-loses-its-ev-quality-edge.html?msockid=21fbbea4efa763842064acc4ee526280

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-musk-steering-suspension/

Tesla crushed in Consumer Reports reliability rankings despite improvement

Tesla was found to be one of the most unreliable brands in America, according to Consumer Reports’ annual reliability report. Consumer Reports‘ annual reliability rankings have been released, and with data from 24 brands and over 300,000 vehicles, Tesla fell near the bottom (19/24) along with...

www.teslarati.com

https://insideevs.com/news/731559/tesla-least-reliable-used-car-brands/

Hell, a Yugo has better quality than a Tesla.

Why you so say they're "a worthless EV"?

Because in my astute opinion, all EV's are worthless. Various manufacturers and entrepreneurs have tried for nearly 150 years now to bring an EV to market and not one has succeeded. Probably the closest anyone came is the Baker Electric of 1910. Baker managed to stay in business from 1899 to 1914 before going under (15 years).

 

[Diogenes]

Hell, a Yugo has better quality than a Tesla.

Because in my astute opinion, all EV's are worthless. Various manufacturers and entrepreneurs have tried for nearly 150 years now to bring an EV to market and not one has succeeded. Probably the closest anyone came is the Baker Electric of 1910. Baker managed to stay in business from 1899 to 1914 before going under (15 years).

Opinions.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Opinions.

Not on the issue of quality. Tesla's quality sucks.

 

[Diogenes]

Not on the issue of quality. Tesla's quality sucks.

Opinions.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Opinions.

Quality is a measurable thing. Every reviewer and consumer testing group rates Tesla's build quality and reliability as one of the worst in the automotive industry.

JD Power's ranking based on problems in the first 90 days of ownership per 100 cars.

Consumer Reports gives Tesla low marks for quality.

 

[Teflon Don]

Funny thing isn’t it. My opinion are that EVs are a scam that couldn’t stand on their own. Teslas are technological marvels in many ways. I would never own one.

There is zero denying that Musk is one of the most consequential businessmen of our time.

Are his motives today pure? I don’t know. All I can do is watch as something I have wanted to happen my entire adult life comes to pass

But I do enjoy watching leftists hate on Musk on command. Tomorrow if they are told to love him they will do so dutifully

 

[EdwinA]

Tesla's Quality Control Is So Bad Customers Are Taking Delivery Inspections Into Their Own Hands

Tesla’s build quality problems are well known; from panel gaps to crummy interiors to glass roofs that just fly off for no reason, it’s safe to say customers should be on the lookout when they purchase a brand-new Tesla. The Cybertruck has been just as bad as previous models, despite its over...

www.jalopnik.com

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/27/jd-power-tesla-loses-its-ev-quality-edge.html?msockid=21fbbea4efa763842064acc4ee526280

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-musk-steering-suspension/

Tesla crushed in Consumer Reports reliability rankings despite improvement

Tesla was found to be one of the most unreliable brands in America, according to Consumer Reports’ annual reliability report. Consumer Reports‘ annual reliability rankings have been released, and with data from 24 brands and over 300,000 vehicles, Tesla fell near the bottom (19/24) along with...

www.teslarati.com

https://insideevs.com/news/731559/tesla-least-reliable-used-car-brands/

Hell, a Yugo has better quality than a Tesla.

Because in my astute opinion, all EV's are worthless. Various manufacturers and entrepreneurs have tried for nearly 150 years now to bring an EV to market and not one has succeeded. Probably the closest anyone came is the Baker Electric of 1910. Baker managed to stay in business from 1899 to 1914 before going under (15 years).

Sad how the Yugo turned out. It could have been the next Beetle, only much better, but bad management fucked it up.

 

[Diogenes]

Quality is a measurable thing. Every reviewer and consumer testing group rates Tesla's build quality and reliability as one of the worst in the automotive industry.

JD Power's ranking based on problems in the first 90 days of ownership per 100 cars.

Consumer Reports gives Tesla low marks for quality.

Opinions.

 

[Diogenes]

Funny thing isn’t it. My opinion are that EVs are a scam that couldn’t stand on their own. Teslas are technological marvels in many ways. I would never own one.

There is zero denying that Musk is one of the most consequential businessmen of our time.

Are his motives today pure? I don’t know. All I can do is watch as something I have wanted to happen my entire adult life comes to pass

But I do enjoy watching leftists hate on Musk on command. Tomorrow if they are told to love him they will do so dutifully

Precisely, TD. Their craven course commands consensus.

 

[Diogenes]

Not on the issue of quality. Tesla's quality sucks.

Opinion.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Sad how the Yugo turned out. It could have been the next Beetle, only much better, but bad management fucked it up.

I've read they're looking to do a comeback.

 

[FastLane]

Quality is a measurable thing. Every reviewer and consumer testing group rates Tesla's build quality and reliability as one of the worst in the automotive industry.

JD Power's ranking based on problems in the first 90 days of ownership per 100 cars.

Consumer Reports gives Tesla low marks for quality.

Tesla attempts to offer the bleeding edge of software innovation, they undoubtedly encounter more software issues than have been typically seen in the automotive space. And while these problems are typically fixed through updates and technical support quickly, they could easily contribute to Tesla’s poor performance.

Tesla crushed in Consumer Reports reliability rankings despite improvement

Tesla was found to be one of the most unreliable brands in America, according to Consumer Reports’ annual reliability report. Consumer Reports‘ annual reliability rankings have been released, and with data from 24 brands and over 300,000 vehicles, Tesla fell near the bottom (19/24) along with...

www.teslarati.com

 

[Diogenes]

Isn't Consumer Reports a compendium of opinions?

 

[Jarod]

@Damocles was the only commentator I could find who hasn't changed his tune.

I have always though he was a druggy and mentally ill.