If Teabaggers were Black

Cypress

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....or, An Ode to White Privilege

Imagine that hundreds of black protesters were to descend upon Washington DC and Northern Virginia, just a few miles from the Capitol and White House, armed with AK-47s, assorted handguns, and ammunition. And imagine that some of these protesters —the black protesters — spoke of the need for political revolution, and possibly even armed conflict in the event that laws they didn’t like were enforced by the government? Would these protester — these black protesters with guns — be seen as brave defenders of the Second Amendment, or would they be viewed by most whites as a danger to the republic?

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What if they were Arab-Americans? Because, after all, that’s what happened recently when white gun enthusiasts descended upon the nation’s capital, arms in hand, and verbally announced their readiness to make war on the country’s political leaders if the need arose.

Imagine that white members of Congress, while walking to work, were surrounded by thousands of angry black people, one of whom proceeded to spit on one of those congressmen for not voting the way the black demonstrators desired. Would the protesters be seen as merely patriotic Americans voicing their opinions, or as an angry, potentially violent, and even insurrectionary mob? After all, this is what white Tea Party protesters did recently in Washington…...

Imagine that a black radio host were to suggest that the only way to get promoted in the administration of a white president is by “hating black people,” or that a prominent white person had only endorsed a white presidential candidate as an act of racial bonding, or blamed a white president for a fight on a school bus in which a black kid was jumped by two white kids, or said that he wouldn’t want to kill all conservatives, but rather, would like to leave just enough—“living fossils” as he called them—“so we will never forget what these people stood for.” After all, these are things that Rush Limbaugh has said, about Barack Obama’s administration, Colin Powell’s endorsement of Barack Obama, a fight on a school bus in Belleville, Illinois in which two black kids beat up a white kid, and about liberals, generally.

Imagine that a black pastor, formerly a member of the U.S. military, were to declare, as part of his opposition to a white president’s policies, that he was ready to “suit up, get my gun, go to Washington, and do what they trained me to do.” This is, after all, what Pastor Stan Craig said recently at a Tea Party rally in Greenville, South Carolina.

Imagine a black radio talk show host gleefully predicting a revolution by people of color if the government continues to be dominated by the rich white men who have been “destroying” the country, or if said radio personality were to call Christians or Jews non-humans, or say that when it came to conservatives, the best solution would be to “hang ‘em high.” And what would happen to any congressional representative who praised that commentator for “speaking common sense” and likened his hate talk to “American values?” After all, those are among the things said by radio host and best-selling author Michael Savage, predicting white revolution in the face of multiculturalism, or said by Savage about Muslims and liberals, respectively. And it was Congressman Culbertson, from Texas, who praised Savage in that way, despite his hateful rhetoric.

Imagine a black political commentator suggesting that the only thing the guy who flew his plane into the Austin, Texas IRS building did wrong was not blowing up Fox News instead. This is, after all, what Anne Coulter said about Tim McVeigh, when she noted that his only mistake was not blowing up the New York Times.

Imagine that a popular black liberal website posted comments about the daughter of a white president, calling her “typical redneck trash,” or a “whore” whose mother entertains her by “making monkey sounds.” After all that’s comparable to what conservatives posted about Malia Obama on freerepublic.com last year, when they referred to her as “ghetto trash.”

Imagine that black protesters at a large political rally were walking around with signs calling for the lynching of their congressional enemies. Because that’s what white conservatives did last year, in reference to Democratic party leaders in Congress.

In other words, imagine that even one-third of the anger and vitriol currently being hurled at President Obama, by folks who are almost exclusively white, were being aimed, instead, at a white president, by people of color. How many whites viewing the anger, the hatred, the contempt for that white president would then wax eloquent about free speech, and the glories of democracy? And how many would be calling for further crackdowns on thuggish behavior, and investigations into the radical agendas of those same people of color?

To ask any of these questions is to answer them. Protest is only seen as fundamentally American when those who have long had the luxury of seeing themselves as prototypically American engage in it. When the dangerous and dark “other” does so, however, it isn’t viewed as normal or natural, let alone patriotic. Which is why Rush Limbaugh could say, this past week, that the Tea Parties are the first time since the Civil War that ordinary, common Americans stood up for their rights: a statement that erases the normalcy and “American-ness” of blacks in the civil rights struggle, not to mention women in the fight for suffrage and equality, working people in the fight for better working conditions, and LGBT folks as they struggle to be treated as full and equal human beings.

And this, my friends, is what white privilege is all about. The ability to threaten others, to engage in violent and incendiary rhetoric without consequence, to be viewed as patriotic and normal no matter what you do, and never to be feared and despised as people of color would be, if they tried to get away with half the shit we do, on a daily basis.

Game Over.

http://ephphatha-poetry.blogspot.com/2010/04/imagine-if-tea-party-was-black-tim-wise.html
 
This article spread around quickly yesterday as I had a half dozen black friends who live in various parts of the country post this on Facebook.

The author makes some good points though I do find it interesting that he tries to break down white privilege into a liberal/conservative thing not just a black/white thing so he has his obvious political bias which I think detracts from his point. Does he really believe liberal white males don't gain from white privilege? As seen during the Democratic 2008 Presidential Primary does he really believe racial prejudice doesn't exist within the white liberal community?

And is he showing 50 Cent as a gangta like white people are trying to depict him as such? 50 Cent's whole marketing M.O. was that he has been shot 7 times and survived 1) making him a tough ass guy and 2) giving him serious street cred. I love 'Fiddys' music but I'm not sure how this author is trying to make hay with those two photo's he is showing.
 
This post is nothing but race-baiting garbage.


So your contention is that a political protest of armed and raucous black people would be viewed by society at large in exactly the same way as a political protest of armed and raucous white people is viewed?

I disagree.
 
This post is nothing but race-baiting garbage.
You're blind as a bat and living on top of an isolated mountain fortress with Fox News as your only source of information if you can't see the obvious double standard the author is pointing out. Since when is the truth race baiting?
 
This article spread around quickly yesterday as I had a half dozen black friends who live in various parts of the country post this on Facebook.

The author makes some good points though I do find it interesting that he tries to break down white privilege into a liberal/conservative thing not just a black/white thing so he has his obvious political bias which I think detracts from his point. Does he really believe liberal white males don't gain from white privilege? As seen during the Democratic 2008 Presidential Primary does he really believe racial prejudice doesn't exist within the white liberal community?

And is he showing 50 Cent as a gangta like white people are trying to depict him as such? 50 Cent's whole marketing M.O. was that he has been shot 7 times and survived 1) making him a tough ass guy and 2) giving him serious street cred. I love 'Fiddys' music but I'm not sure how this author is trying to make hay with those two photo's he is showing.

Really? Let's do a blind taste test then. Let's plop that picture of Fiddy in front of some white bubba from Greensburg, Indiana and ask him "Is this the picture of a true American Patriot or of some ghetto gangster?"

I gotta sneaky hunch who's going to win this Pepsi Challenge!
 
This article spread around quickly yesterday as I had a half dozen black friends who live in various parts of the country post this on Facebook.

The author makes some good points though I do find it interesting that he tries to break down white privilege into a liberal/conservative thing not just a black/white thing so he has his obvious political bias which I think detracts from his point. Does he really believe liberal white males don't gain from white privilege? As seen during the Democratic 2008 Presidential Primary does he really believe racial prejudice doesn't exist within the white liberal community?

And is he showing 50 Cent as a gangta like white people are trying to depict him as such? 50 Cent's whole marketing M.O. was that he has been shot 7 times and survived 1) making him a tough ass guy and 2) giving him serious street cred. I love 'Fiddys' music but I'm not sure how this author is trying to make hay with those two photo's he is showing.


Did he make the point the conservative whites are beneficiaries of white privilege, while white liberals aren't?

I fully admit that I have been the beneficiary of white privilege. There's never been any substantive situation in my life where my skin color or gender was any kind of draw back. That's the problem. Not everyone has the same advantage as me.

ps. 50 cent was my photo, not the author's, cawacko. It was just a spoof. You gotta admit, whitey's primal emotional reaction to a black guy with a gun is kind of a Rorschach test. We don't react, in general, the same way to a white dude with a gun.
 
Really? Let's do a blind taste test then. Let's plop that picture of Fiddy in front of some white bubba from Greensburg, Indiana and ask him "Is this the picture of a true American Patriot or of some ghetto gangster?"

I gotta sneaky hunch who's going to win this Pepsi Challenge!

Look at the white guy's shirt. I get his point by reading his shirt. If he didn't have that shirt on or had a shirt that was holding a noose I would view it a little different.

And the picture of 50 Cent is a corporate marketing photo. That's not a natural picture. As I said the goal is to make him look as scary as possible. Instead of showing a celebrity to make the point show a picture of a Crip in South Central. Of course a Crip in South Central caring a gun scares more than just white people but at least it's a dude off the street.
 
You're blind as a bat and living on top of an isolated mountain fortress with Fox News as your only source of information if you can't see the obvious double standard the author is pointing out. Since when is the truth race baiting?

Why is it that the loony left retards are always bringing race into the picture?
 
Why is it that the loony left retards are always bringing race into the picture?


Racial bias and racial inequality isn't a valid and important issue?

Weird. I see dozens of threads here on this board, on a weekly basis, on the most mundane and childish of topics. But, whenever I bring up racial inequality, invariably I get some rightwingers yelling at me to stop talking about race.
 
""Imagine that hundreds of black protesters were to descend upon Washington DC and Northern Virginia, just a few miles from the Capitol and White House, armed with AK-47s, assorted handguns, and ammunition. And imagine that some of these protesters —the black protesters — spoke of the need for political revolution, and possibly even armed conflict in the event that laws they didn’t like were enforced by the government? Would these protester — these black protesters with guns — be seen as brave defenders of the Second Amendment, or would they be viewed by most whites as a danger to the republic?""

Aren't there quite a few white people now who think the "teabaggers" are dangers to the Republic?

There was also the million man march back in the '90's and while granted that was more a rally about inner-community responsibility than trying to change the country it's not like America went into a fearful panic attack over the rally.
 
Aren't there quite a few white people now who think the "teabaggers" are dangers to the Republic?

That's just because you are a frequent visitor to message boards, which probably biases your perception. A couple dozen lefties here, and the lefty blogs harsh on the teabaggers. But, more broadly, in the mainstream media, they are almost universally treated as benign, if passionate, protestors.

There was also the million man march back in the '90's and while granted that was more a rally about inner-community responsibility than trying to change the country it's not like America went into a fearful panic attack over the rally.

The dudes in the million man march weren't carrying guns, or talking about overthrowing the government.

It wasn't even really political, it was about personal responsibility, and community activism.

And I do recall some visceral reaction at the time, from whites, having racial overtones.
 
Aren't there quite a few white people now who think the "teabaggers" are dangers to the Republic?

There was also the million man march back in the '90's and while granted that was more a rally about inner-community responsibility than trying to change the country it's not like America went into a fearful panic attack over the rally.

The militia rally was not a TEA party rally, though they, the militia folks, may well agree with the TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY perspective. Personally I think showing up with guns was counter productive...though kudos to them that NO VIOLENCE occured.

My problem is with people like Cypress who begin a thread using a derogatory name intended to demean and then post an article that attempts to show racial injustice. The guy is a total knee-jerk hypocrite. TEA party rally's don't ask people to come armed....so right there his strawman is exposed. Let the comparison be made to black or arab militia's (they do exist) holding armed rally's and he can then attempt to make his lame point. Maybe then he can start a thread and call them racebaggers???
 
The militia rally was not a TEA party rally, though they, the militia folks, may well agree with the TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY perspective. Personally I think showing up with guns was counter productive...though kudos to them that NO VIOLENCE occured.

My problem is with people like Cypress who begin a thread using a derogatory name intended to demean and then post an article that attempts to show racial injustice. The guy is a total knee-jerk hypocrite. TEA party rally's don't ask people to come armed....so right there his strawman is exposed. Let the comparison be made to black or arab militia's (they do exist) holding armed rally's and he can then attempt to make his lame point. Maybe then he can start a thread and call them racebaggers???


I would invite you to rethink that statement. This board has a plethora of posts - probably several dozen at least- where Tea Bag advocates celebrate, high five, and pat each other on the backs about bringing weapons to Tea Bag rallies. And there's been much giggling, and yucking it up, about how bad-ass the tea baggers are with their guns.

I guarantee you this: if the million man march showed up in DC, brandishing guns, and celebrating the display of weaponry, the National Guard would have been called out to monitor the march.
 
That's just because you are a frequent visitor to message boards, which probably biases your perception. A couple dozen lefties here, and the lefty blogs harsh on the teabaggers. But, more broadly, in the mainstream media, they are almost universally treated as benign, if passionate, protestors.



The dudes in the million man march weren't carrying guns, or talking about overthrowing the government.

It wasn't even really political, it was about personal responsibility, and community activism.

And I do recall some visceral reaction at the time, from whites, having racial overtones.

While I get the point the author is trying to make the New York Times has reported on the general characteristics of tea party folk which I believe was older, educated and relatively/decently successful economically. Now of course they happen to be overwhelmingly white but leave the white part aside for the moment. Any group that is older, educated and successful economically is going to be viewed as less threatening in my opinion. It's hard to get really frightened by 60 year old men with fat bellies in lawn chairs who have trouble getting out of them.
 
I would invite you to rethink that statement. This board has a plethora of posts - probably several dozen at least- where Tea Bag advocates celebrate, high five, and pat each other on the backs about bringing weapons to Tea Bag rallies. And there's been much giggling, and yucking it up, about how bad-ass the tea baggers are with their guns.

I guarantee you this: if the million man march showed up in DC, brandishing guns, and celebrating the display of weaponry, the National Guard would have been called out to monitor the march.

Yeah, show us your name calling self-righteousness some more.

Supporting gun rights is a common theme by libertarian and conservative posters.

Bringing a gun to a TEA party rally has never been a part of TEA party protests. If a few people in attendance at a rally have brought a gun it has not been to any of the 3 I have attended, nor has any violence occured by anyone with a gun...though an un-armed black TEA party supporter was called a nigger by an SEIU thug and then beaten by him at a TEA party rally a few months back.

The point, no not the one on top of your head, is that you need to check your comparison. When/if black or arab militia's...they do exist...have an armed rally then we can see if you have an actual point.
 
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