Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Are you sure about that? I’m not but if you don’t seem to think it doesn’t go ahead and drink water that has more than 0.2 ppb of Mercury. Good luck to you.
SCOTUS goes against EPA in a 5-4 ruling. We won’t have cheap eggs but we will have water with dookie particles in it! Thanks Trump..
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Dutch Uncle
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A simple "I don't know" would have answered the question, Terry.Some examples:
During the Clinton administration the EPA lowered allowable arsenic in drinking water to 10 ppb (Parts Per Billion), from the previous standard of 50 ppb. This had no discernable effect on health as the level necessary for it being a health hazard is about 1000 times that level, as seen in say, Bandladesh.
This reduction did result in water companies that get their supply from ground water having to invest in expensive new testing equipment and filtration systems to often remove a few ppb to meet the new standards. Across about half of the US, people saw their water bills double to triple.
The ONLY REASON the EPA lowered that standard was that there was now testing equipment that could accurately measure that minute an amount of arsenic in drinking water.
The EPA did the same thing with hexavalent chromium lowering the level to 0 (zero). That too raised the cost of drinking water by a commensurate amount. For no discernable effect on health.
Or the CPSC (Consumer Products Safety Commission). At one point, they found that 9 to 13 small children a year fall into a 5-gallon bucket and drown in the liquid in the bucket. Their solution was to want to order manufacturers to put crossed sticks on the opening of those buckets. Manufacturers said that would add about $10 billion a year to the cost of 5-gallon buckets and raise inflation. The CPSC didn't care. Users said the crossed sticks would interfere with their use of these buckets for the purposes they had them for and they'd just smash them out to make the bucket useful. The CPSC replied they'd make that illegal and criminally fine people who did.
In the end, the CPSC backed down and put a label on 5-gallon buckets warning about this hazard.
Today in the US 9 to 13 children fall into a 5-gallon bucket a year and drown...
What kind of "safety device" comes with warning labels that warn you it could kill you?
Safety is first and foremost YOUR personal responsibility, not the governments or some bureaucrats. The government and bureaucrats make all sorts of insane safety rules that anyone with even basic experience and knowledge recognize as asinine. Yet, retards like YOU take everything those idiots in offices who never hammered a nail in their lifetime as gospel.
The fact you listed a lot of stuff without a link, ergo claiming it as your own writing, is interesting. It adds to my opinion that you are suffering from cognitive issues and shouldn't be held accountable for your own actions.
BTW, my sincer apologies for fucking up and forgetting you are a retired Navy Chief and not in the USAF like ex-Capt. @Earl. The mistake was unintentional.
Tobytone
Verified User
Oh Humel, you're always so cranky. I got just the thing to cheer you up.
Little Miss Chu is my favorite. I so wish I was a Democrat right now, I'd be very proud of my boys and girls and whatever the other genders are, for sure. LOL
View: https://x.com/GovernorWIS/status/1897661504230400143
shut up asshole
Tobytone
Verified User
Come on Humel, how can I help. Wait, how about a song, that always cheers up you libtards, at least I think it must, it seems to be a favorite coping mechanism lately. Give a try and sing along. It was a tough choice, but I think I picked the right one to get your spirits up. I think it should be named 'Trump is not King' or 'Never turning back' can't decide, it's a real tearjerker though, for sure.
View: https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1891562473645392230
George Santos’ ex-fundraiser is sentenced to a year in prison for wire fraud
A former campaign fundraiser for ex-U.S. Rep. George Santos has been sentenced to serve one year and one day in prison for impersonating a high-ranking congressional aide while raising cash for the disgraced New York Republican.
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T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
Those don't set the actual levels allowed.
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
Feel free to look it up you 'tard.
For example on arsenic in drinking water. 5 seconds of research and...
Tobytone
Verified User
Oh, wow, thanks for the scoop. My world is shaken. This totally proves all Republicans are Satan’s spawn. I don't know how to thank you for bringing this important story to my attention.
George Santos’ ex-fundraiser is sentenced to a year in prison for wire fraud
A former campaign fundraiser for ex-U.S. Rep. George Santos has been sentenced to serve one year and one day in prison for impersonating a high-ranking congressional aide while raising cash for the disgraced New York Republican.
If this guy had only done something like Anthony Weiner sending pictures of 'himself' to some high school girls I could look past this, but no way. I mean seriously, an ex-fundraiser broke a fundraising law, this can't be ignored. Thanks for nothing, you ruined my whole weekend.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
"Too safe"? How much is "Too safe"?
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
When a minor injury, like a small cut on a worker's finger, becomes a major paperwork and training issue.
When you have to spend money and time doing something totally irrelevant but still required.
When the "safety" devices hinder doing your job safely.
When the costs of being safe exceeds the value of the work leading to it being offshored where safety standards don't exist at all.
When you spend more time documenting that you are doing things safely than actually doing things.
That's a few examples.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
We're talking about water.
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
I already gave you two examples. The levels of allowable arsenic and hexavalent chromium are far below what is even a minor health hazard.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
The fact you result to insults when embarrassed at being caught plagiarizing indicates a lack of moral fabric on your part. Another reason why I believe you are not the Navy Chief you used to be.
I'm not a biologist nor a lawyer and do not know the safe levels of arsenic in water for babies, kids and/or adults. As adult citizens, I believe it's a civic duty to ensure the safety of those weaker than ourselves be they babies, kids or demented geezers. This is why it's important that our local, state and federal governments hire people to figure out what is safe, what is not and what is risky.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Agreed. What does it tell you when someone fabricates a bunch of fantastical hypothetical examples without evidence?
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Yes. Yes they do. I’ve been doing this for 35 years and the last 20 years in regulatory compliance. They by god do set limits. Title V of the CAA sets emmision standards for hazardous air pollutants, The NPDES sets limits under the CWA for discharges into navigable waterways and RCRA setS regulatory limits for solid waste management including industrial and hazardous waste and DOT’s Pipepline And Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA) sets limits and standards for transportation of hazardous materials and OSHA establishes safety standards for exposure to hazardous substances and NIOSH establishes exposure limits in the workplace to hazardous substances and biological indices.
I’m not making up political bullshit. I deal with this stuff everyday and I am professionally certified in Hazardous Materials Management. I also chair the examination committee for my professional association that writes the examination questions for the professional certification examination.
I can assure you that in this line of work you are surrounded by regulatory limits and requirements on all sides and that those limitations are established on the best developed available demonstrated technologies to establish regulatory limits.
Diesel
Well-known member
Did you actually mean "too safe" or were you perhaps thinking "excessively safe"?
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
One in the same thing. How safe is safe enough? We have 35,000 people (roughly) die a year in auto accidents. That appears to be acceptable right now for the cost of the vehicles you can currently buy. Is that safe enough? If not, how much safer should it be, and what will it cost?
SmarterthanYou
rebel
you're obviously ok with the FDA standards of the acceptable levels of rodent hair and rodent droppings in certain food stuff storage, so what's your problem with acceptable levels of fecal matter in tap water?
Dutch Uncle
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The problem is that there are no more standards and no more inspectors.