SmarterthanYou
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and I noticed that you haven't retracted your accusation of Bush, admitting you were wrong.........
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and I noticed that you haven't retracted your accusation of Bush, admitting you were wrong.........
The Coast Guard's Deepwater Program has exactly nothing to do with the similarly named Horizon Deepwater oil rig.
You should take my advice and just slow down and think about things.
evince
Truthmatters
You are right it does have nothing to do with it.
I blew it by assuming the whistle blower had something to do with this situation when I found it in one of my searches for Deepwater horizon.
I threw it up there to look at in more depth while I looked over other things in the searches.
I was trying to find out who approved this rig for exploration and building.
I now think it was Bush 41 or Reagan.
I blew it by assuming the whistle blower had something to do with this situation when I found it in one of my searches for Deepwater horizon.
I threw it up there to look at in more depth while I looked over other things in the searches.
I was trying to find out who approved this rig for exploration and building.
I now think it was Bush 41 or Reagan.
evince
Truthmatters
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/deepwaterhorizon/6984598.html
An enormous oil spill. A fiery explosion. Eleven presumed dead. And more questions about another catastrophic accident tied to an all-too-familiar company: BP
Though the Deepwater Horizon was owned and operated by Swiss company Transocean Ltd., it was leased by BP, a London-based multinational oil giant with the worst safety record of any major oil company operating refineries in the United States.
In October, Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis proposed fining BP Products North America Inc. $87.4 million in penalties for the company's alleged failure to correct systemic problems that the Occupational Safety and Health Administration and others identified after BP's Texas City refinery exploded in 2005.
That accident killed 15 people and seriously injured more than 170 others.
The proposed fine is the largest in OSHA's history. The previous record — a $21 million fine — also was issued against BP after various government investigations uncovered a systemic and cultural disregard for safety after the 2005 explosion.
An enormous oil spill. A fiery explosion. Eleven presumed dead. And more questions about another catastrophic accident tied to an all-too-familiar company: BP
Though the Deepwater Horizon was owned and operated by Swiss company Transocean Ltd., it was leased by BP, a London-based multinational oil giant with the worst safety record of any major oil company operating refineries in the United States.
In October, Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis proposed fining BP Products North America Inc. $87.4 million in penalties for the company's alleged failure to correct systemic problems that the Occupational Safety and Health Administration and others identified after BP's Texas City refinery exploded in 2005.
That accident killed 15 people and seriously injured more than 170 others.
The proposed fine is the largest in OSHA's history. The previous record — a $21 million fine — also was issued against BP after various government investigations uncovered a systemic and cultural disregard for safety after the 2005 explosion.
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Nobody approved it to be installed without the basic safety devices required of all rigs. That the robots were sent down to shut off the valve that didn't exist only shows that they were hiding the fact that they knew it wasn't there.
evince
Truthmatters
That to blame this on Obama is insanity.
To pretend that he could do what no one can do and is a major reason we should not be drilling in these situations.
No one knows how to stop these deep water spills which means they are not a safe type of drilling in the first place and should not be done.
Who ever approved this well is more responsible than anyone in the current government.
To pretend that he could do what no one can do and is a major reason we should not be drilling in these situations.
No one knows how to stop these deep water spills which means they are not a safe type of drilling in the first place and should not be done.
Who ever approved this well is more responsible than anyone in the current government.
You know what's more insane than blaming this on Obama? Blaming it on any other president.
evince
Truthmatters
To allow this type of drilling is presenting the US with this type of disastor.
I think the people who allowed this type of deepwater drilling with no plan on how to deal with this very type of disastor sure does lay some blame at someones feet.
The question is why dont you think so?
I think the people who allowed this type of deepwater drilling with no plan on how to deal with this very type of disastor sure does lay some blame at someones feet.
The question is why dont you think so?
evince
Truthmatters
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2010/may/03/usa-dickcheney
From the Wall Street Journal:
The oil well spewing crude into the Gulf of Mexico didn't have a remote-control shut-off switch used in two other major oil-producing nations as last-resort protection against underwater spills.
The lack of the device, called an acoustic switch, could amplify concerns over the environmental impact of offshore drilling after the explosion and sinking of the Deepwater Horizon rig last week...
... regulators in two major oil-producing countries, Norway and Brazil, in effect require them. Norway has had acoustic triggers on almost every offshore rig since 1993.
The U.S. considered requiring a remote-controlled shut-off mechanism several years ago, but drilling companies questioned its cost and effectiveness, according to the agency overseeing offshore drilling. The agency, the Interior Department's Minerals Management Service, says it decided the remote device wasn't needed because rigs had other back-up plans to cut off a well.
The U.K., where BP is headquartered, doesn't require the use of acoustic triggers.
From the Wall Street Journal:
The oil well spewing crude into the Gulf of Mexico didn't have a remote-control shut-off switch used in two other major oil-producing nations as last-resort protection against underwater spills.
The lack of the device, called an acoustic switch, could amplify concerns over the environmental impact of offshore drilling after the explosion and sinking of the Deepwater Horizon rig last week...
... regulators in two major oil-producing countries, Norway and Brazil, in effect require them. Norway has had acoustic triggers on almost every offshore rig since 1993.
The U.S. considered requiring a remote-controlled shut-off mechanism several years ago, but drilling companies questioned its cost and effectiveness, according to the agency overseeing offshore drilling. The agency, the Interior Department's Minerals Management Service, says it decided the remote device wasn't needed because rigs had other back-up plans to cut off a well.
The U.K., where BP is headquartered, doesn't require the use of acoustic triggers.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
As per their posts in this thread, blaming Bush and deflecting. :lol:
It's possible it was GHWB then, but I fail to see why it would matter.
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obama is all for expanding oil drilling in the gulf....waht exactly is your point?
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they had a dead man switch that is supposed to automatically shut off the oil, it didn't work, thus, it is also highly probable that the acoustic switch would not have been effective. we just don't know what exactly happened at this point.
No doubt. My point wasn't blame Obama. He didn't cause the disaster, much like GWB didn't cause a hurricane, but where I'm calling attention is the apperent double standard. When Bush was president, every disaster was proof that he didn't care about minorities.
I haven't heard a word from Obama on the flooding in Nashville either.
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Barack Obama doesn't care about white people!!
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USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
The manufacturer of the dead mans switch needs to be held accountable.
Their factory should be shut down, all it's workers fired, the assets of the company sold off (along with the assests of who ever inspected the switch before it left the factory), and the President of the company and the inspector should go to jail.
OR we could wait for the reports to come in and then make decisions based on facts and not guesses.
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hence why i said this:
we just don't know what exactly happened at this point.
go back to yelling out G34, I45
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
You are so full of stupidity, as of late, that you aren't even able to see that what I posted was in support of what you were saying.
I worded it the way I did, to try and show the doomsayers how they were acting.
I'll make sure that I don't support you in the future and only slam what I THINK you said and not what you actually posted.
You've turned into a fucking dumbass.
You are so full of stupidity, as of late, that you aren't even able to see that what I posted was in support of what you were saying.
I worded it the way I did, to try and show the doomsayers how they were acting.
I'll make sure that I don't support you in the future and only slam what I THINK you said and not what you actually posted.
You've turned into a fucking dumbass.
I think Yurt's sarcasm detector is in the shop with mine. They both need some work.