Trump's 'Vladimir, STOP!' Plea Is Making People Face-Palm On Social Media

[Dutch Uncle]

Trump keeps embarrassing himself and the nation.

Trump's 'Vladimir, STOP!' Plea Is Making People Face-Palm On Social Media

The world is mocking the president's request.

www.yahoo.com

How it started: Trump says he can end the Russian invasion of Ukraine on his first day in office

How it’s going: “Vladimir, STOP!” pic.twitter.com/7KWvQkzpuy

— max seddon (@maxseddon) April 24, 2025

View: https://x.com/maxseddon/status/1915389326348657060

A ‘Vladimir, STOP!’ post on Truth Social appears to be Trump’s secret plan revealed to end the war. We have never looked more foolish and pathetic. pic.twitter.com/F4vR3EjNrx

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) April 24, 2025

View: https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1915387138926948458

Vladimir, STOP! pic.twitter.com/v9H3AuPNeW

— Daniil Alenius (@Finnish_scout) April 24, 2025

View: https://x.com/Finnish_scout/status/1915441642804281384

Vladimir, STOP! pic.twitter.com/v9H3AuPNeW

— Daniil Alenius (@Finnish_scout) April 24, 2025

View: https://x.com/Finnish_scout/status/1915441642804281384/photo/1

If Biden or Obama had posted “Vladimir, stop,” right-wing media would have run mockery of such “weakness” on a loop for a week. https://t.co/Tq7IlnxYZw

— Niall Stanage (@NiallStanage) April 24, 2025

View: https://x.com/NiallStanage/status/1915394731627925549?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://x.com/SykesCharlie/status/1915441507433074839?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Who can forget the immortal words of FDR in 1940: “Adolph, STOP!”

Trump writes ‘Vladimir, STOP!’ after Russia launches deadliest strikes on Kyiv since last summer https://t.co/m5phWgvaA3

— Charlie Sykes (@SykesCharlie) April 24, 2025

https://x.com/adnashmyash/status/1915391002791039229?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://x.com/adamjohnsonCHI/status/1915391159423160606?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

 

[Scott]

I'm not sure if Trump would have avoided a war with Russia, but I sincerely doubt he would have done worse than Biden on this one. Now if Trump would just make good on walking away from the Ukraine conflict, I think it could finally end.

There wouldn't've been any war TO avoid had Trump still been in office, and Biden didn't have the mental capacity to do much of anything beyond creepily whisper incoherently, yell incoherently, act creepy towards young girls, and poop his pants. He was merely an expendable figurehead. The USA was quite literally run by a shadow government during "his" entire term.

Again, I'm not sure how things would have gone if Trump had had a second term right after his first, but I strongly suspect that he would have done better than Biden's Administration in handling the Ukraine situation, which clearly messed up as I pointed out to Dutch Uncle in post #29.

 

[Scott]

Trump and Putin are both ready to stop the war, and have both been ready from Day 1 to stop the war. The problem is Zelenskyy, NATO, and the CIA who all refuse to stop the destruction.

So Trump is powerless?

No, but it seems that Trump realizes that escalating things further with Russia risks a nuclear war. Tell me, who would a nuclear war benefit? I know that Zelensky doesn't seem to mind the idea, but then, all of Zelensky's choices are bad and perhaps taking his chances in a nuclear holocaust then live with the fact that he could have ended the war shortly after it began, and on much better terms then he'll be getting now.

 

[AProudLefty]

No, but it seems that Trump realizes that escalating things further with Russia risks a nuclear war. Tell me, who would a nuclear war benefit? I know that Zelensky doesn't seem to mind the idea, but then, all of Zelensky's choices are bad and perhaps taking his chances in a nuclear holocaust then live with the fact that he could have ended the war shortly after it began, and on much better terms then he'll be getting now.

How would he have ended the war? Remember, Putin is the aggressor here.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

It's coordinated public messaging, and Ukraine has already lost the war [ESPECIALLY without Trump's backing] (so now it's only a matter of how many MORE people Zelenskyy, NATO, and the CIA wish to get killed in the meantime).

Not Joe's per-se (because Joe, at that point, wasn't mentally capable of much beyond pooping his own pants), but rather the Shadow Government's fault. That includes whoever was ACTUALLY running the country at the time, including the CIA, and NATO played a role in it too. They all "poked the (Russia) bear" because they WANTED war. Or, as is commonly said nowadays, they "fucked around" with Russia and now they are "finding out".

^^^
Sybil be cray-cray.

 

[Scott]

No, but it seems that Trump realizes that escalating things further with Russia risks a nuclear war. Tell me, who would a nuclear war benefit? I know that Zelensky doesn't seem to mind the idea, but then, all of Zelensky's choices are bad and perhaps taking his chances in a nuclear holocaust then live with the fact that he could have ended the war shortly after it began, and on much better terms then he'll be getting now.

How would he have ended the war?

I think that American Professor and Statesman Jeffrey Sachs answers that question quite handily in his speech to European Parliament on February 19, 2025. It's been transcribed and slightly edited into an article. I'll quote the relevant section below:
**
When Zelensky said a few days after Russia’s invasion that Ukraine was ready for neutrality, a peace agreement was in reach. I know the details of this because I talked to key negotiators and mediators in detail and have learned much from public pronouncements of others. Shortly after the start of negotiations in March 2022, a document was exchanged between the parties that President Putin had approved, and that Lavrov had presented. This was being managed by the Turkish mediators. I flew to Ankara in the spring of 2022 to hear first-hand and in detail what happened in the mediation. The bottom-line is this: Ukraine walked away, unilaterally, from a near agreement.

Why did Ukraine walk away from the negotiations? Because the United States told them to and because the U.K. added icing to the cake by having BoJo [Boris Johnson, the former U.K. prime minister] go to Kyiv in early April to Ukraine to make the same point.

[U.K Prime Minister] Keir Starmer turns out to be even worse, even more of a warmonger. It’s unimaginable, but it is true. Boris Johnson explained, and you can find it on the web, that what’s at stake here is nothing less than Western hegemony! Not Ukraine but Western hegemony.

Michael von der Schulenberg and I met at the Vatican with a group of experts in Spring 2022, and we wrote a document explaining that nothing good can come out of continued war. (The meeting at the Vatican was the Fraternal Economy Session on Jubilee 2025: “Hope in the Signs of the Times.”)

Our group argued strenuously, but to no avail, that Ukraine should negotiate immediately, because delays will mean massive deaths, risk of nuclear escalation, and possibly an outright loss of the war.

I wouldn’t want to change one word from what we wrote then. Nothing was wrong in that document. Since the U.S. talked Ukraine out of the negotiations, perhaps one million Ukrainians have died or been severely wounded.

And American senators who are as nasty and cynical as imaginable say this is a wonderful expenditure of U.S. money because no Americans are dying. It’s the pure proxy war. One of our senators nearby New York State, Connecticut’s Richard Blumenthal, said this out loud. Mitt Romney said this out loud. It’s the best money America can spend. No Americans are dying. It’s unreal.

Now, just to bring us up to yesterday, the U.S. Ukraine Project has failed. The core idea of the project all along was that Russia would fold its hand. The core idea all along was Russia can’t resist, just as Zbigniew Brzezinski argued in 1997. The Americans thought the U.S. surely has the upper hand.

The U.S. will win because we’re going to bluff them. The Russians are not really going to fight. The Russians are really going to mobilize. We’ll deploy the economic “nuclear option” of cutting Russia out of SWIFT. That will destroy the economy. Our sanctions will bring Russia to their knees. The HIMARS will do them in. The ATACMS, the F-16s, will do them in. Honestly, I’ve listened to this kind of talk for more than 50 years. Our national security leaders have spoken nonsense for decades.

I begged the Ukrainians: stay neutral. Don’t listen to the Americans. I repeated to them the famous adage of Henry Kissinger, that to be an enemy of the United States is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal. Let me repeat that for Europe: To be an enemy of the United States is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.
**

Full article:

Jeffrey Sachs: The Geopolitics of Peace

The author explains manipulative U.S. post-war foreign policy to European MPs, explodes myths about Ukraine and urges an independent European foreign policy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjcMoDFU1xg&ab_channel=MichaelvonderSchulenburg This is an edited transcript of Professor Jeffrey Sachs’

consortiumnews.com

 

[Dutch Uncle]

How would he have ended the war? Remember, Putin is the aggressor here.

Putin-defenders and MAGAts share a common trait: It's not their fault. It's someone else's fault that Putin invaded Ukraine just like he did in 2014, Georgia and Chechnya.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I think that American Professor and Statesman Jeffrey Sachs answers that question quite handily in his speech to European Parliament on February 19, 2025. It's been transcribed and slightly edited into an article. I'll quote the relevant section below:
**
When Zelensky said a few days after Russia’s invasion that Ukraine was ready for neutrality, a peace agreement was in reach. I know the details of this because I talked to key negotiators and mediators in detail and have learned much from public pronouncements of others. Shortly after the start of negotiations in March 2022, a document was exchanged between the parties that President Putin had approved, and that Lavrov had presented. This was being managed by the Turkish mediators. I flew to Ankara in the spring of 2022 to hear first-hand and in detail what happened in the mediation. The bottom-line is this: Ukraine walked away, unilaterally, from a near agreement.

Why did Ukraine walk away from the negotiations? Because the United States told them to and because the U.K. added icing to the cake by having BoJo [Boris Johnson, the former U.K. prime minister] go to Kyiv in early April to Ukraine to make the same point.

[U.K Prime Minister] Keir Starmer turns out to be even worse, even more of a warmonger. It’s unimaginable, but it is true. Boris Johnson explained, and you can find it on the web, that what’s at stake here is nothing less than Western hegemony! Not Ukraine but Western hegemony.

Michael von der Schulenberg and I met at the Vatican with a group of experts in Spring 2022, and we wrote a document explaining that nothing good can come out of continued war. (The meeting at the Vatican was the Fraternal Economy Session on Jubilee 2025: “Hope in the Signs of the Times.”)

Our group argued strenuously, but to no avail, that Ukraine should negotiate immediately, because delays will mean massive deaths, risk of nuclear escalation, and possibly an outright loss of the war.

I wouldn’t want to change one word from what we wrote then. Nothing was wrong in that document. Since the U.S. talked Ukraine out of the negotiations, perhaps one million Ukrainians have died or been severely wounded.

And American senators who are as nasty and cynical as imaginable say this is a wonderful expenditure of U.S. money because no Americans are dying. It’s the pure proxy war. One of our senators nearby New York State, Connecticut’s Richard Blumenthal, said this out loud. Mitt Romney said this out loud. It’s the best money America can spend. No Americans are dying. It’s unreal.

Now, just to bring us up to yesterday, the U.S. Ukraine Project has failed. The core idea of the project all along was that Russia would fold its hand. The core idea all along was Russia can’t resist, just as Zbigniew Brzezinski argued in 1997. The Americans thought the U.S. surely has the upper hand.

The U.S. will win because we’re going to bluff them. The Russians are not really going to fight. The Russians are really going to mobilize. We’ll deploy the economic “nuclear option” of cutting Russia out of SWIFT. That will destroy the economy. Our sanctions will bring Russia to their knees. The HIMARS will do them in. The ATACMS, the F-16s, will do them in. Honestly, I’ve listened to this kind of talk for more than 50 years. Our national security leaders have spoken nonsense for decades.

I begged the Ukrainians: stay neutral. Don’t listen to the Americans. I repeated to them the famous adage of Henry Kissinger, that to be an enemy of the United States is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal. Let me repeat that for Europe: To be an enemy of the United States is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.
**

Full article:

Jeffrey Sachs: The Geopolitics of Peace

The author explains manipulative U.S. post-war foreign policy to European MPs, explodes myths about Ukraine and urges an independent European foreign policy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjcMoDFU1xg&ab_channel=MichaelvonderSchulenburg This is an edited transcript of Professor Jeffrey Sachs’

consortiumnews.com

QED. Because the US wouldn't bend to Putin's demands it's our fault he invaded Ukraine.

What the MAGAts and Putin lapdogs won't admit is that NATO is a defense group against aggression just like Putin is fond of doing.

Putin wants to start WWIII but MAGAts and his lapdogs will blame the US and NATO.

Europe on alert as 4 countries tipped to be next on Putin's invasion hit-list

EXCLUSIVE: An expert says there are European countries that could be next on Vladimir Putin's hitlist, but Russia could also target territory in Africa.

www.the-express.com

Vladimir Putin could target four European countries with a military invasion once he is done in Ukraine, an expert has told the Daily Express.

Vladimir Putin could target four European countries with a military invasion once he is done in Ukraine, an expert has told the Daily Express.

Putin's troops have been carrying out their illegal full-scale invasion of Ukraine since February 2022.

But the Russian President has suggested on a number of occasions he has the ambition of restoring a Russian empire, meaning other European nations could be next on his hitlist.

Nicholas Drummond, a defence and security expert, told the Daily Express that the Baltic nations, Moldova, and even some territories in Africa could be targeted by Russian forces.

 

[Scott]

I think that American Professor and Statesman Jeffrey Sachs answers that question quite handily in his speech to European Parliament on February 19, 2025. It's been transcribed and slightly edited into an article. I'll quote the relevant section below:
**
When Zelensky said a few days after Russia’s invasion that Ukraine was ready for neutrality, a peace agreement was in reach. I know the details of this because I talked to key negotiators and mediators in detail and have learned much from public pronouncements of others. Shortly after the start of negotiations in March 2022, a document was exchanged between the parties that President Putin had approved, and that Lavrov had presented. This was being managed by the Turkish mediators. I flew to Ankara in the spring of 2022 to hear first-hand and in detail what happened in the mediation. The bottom-line is this: Ukraine walked away, unilaterally, from a near agreement.

Why did Ukraine walk away from the negotiations? Because the United States told them to and because the U.K. added icing to the cake by having BoJo [Boris Johnson, the former U.K. prime minister] go to Kyiv in early April to Ukraine to make the same point.

[U.K Prime Minister] Keir Starmer turns out to be even worse, even more of a warmonger. It’s unimaginable, but it is true. Boris Johnson explained, and you can find it on the web, that what’s at stake here is nothing less than Western hegemony! Not Ukraine but Western hegemony.

Michael von der Schulenberg and I met at the Vatican with a group of experts in Spring 2022, and we wrote a document explaining that nothing good can come out of continued war. (The meeting at the Vatican was the Fraternal Economy Session on Jubilee 2025: “Hope in the Signs of the Times.”)

Our group argued strenuously, but to no avail, that Ukraine should negotiate immediately, because delays will mean massive deaths, risk of nuclear escalation, and possibly an outright loss of the war.

I wouldn’t want to change one word from what we wrote then. Nothing was wrong in that document. Since the U.S. talked Ukraine out of the negotiations, perhaps one million Ukrainians have died or been severely wounded.

And American senators who are as nasty and cynical as imaginable say this is a wonderful expenditure of U.S. money because no Americans are dying. It’s the pure proxy war. One of our senators nearby New York State, Connecticut’s Richard Blumenthal, said this out loud. Mitt Romney said this out loud. It’s the best money America can spend. No Americans are dying. It’s unreal.

Now, just to bring us up to yesterday, the U.S. Ukraine Project has failed. The core idea of the project all along was that Russia would fold its hand. The core idea all along was Russia can’t resist, just as Zbigniew Brzezinski argued in 1997. The Americans thought the U.S. surely has the upper hand.

The U.S. will win because we’re going to bluff them. The Russians are not really going to fight. The Russians are really going to mobilize. We’ll deploy the economic “nuclear option” of cutting Russia out of SWIFT. That will destroy the economy. Our sanctions will bring Russia to their knees. The HIMARS will do them in. The ATACMS, the F-16s, will do them in. Honestly, I’ve listened to this kind of talk for more than 50 years. Our national security leaders have spoken nonsense for decades.

I begged the Ukrainians: stay neutral. Don’t listen to the Americans. I repeated to them the famous adage of Henry Kissinger, that to be an enemy of the United States is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal. Let me repeat that for Europe: To be an enemy of the United States is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.
**

Full article:

Jeffrey Sachs: The Geopolitics of Peace

The author explains manipulative U.S. post-war foreign policy to European MPs, explodes myths about Ukraine and urges an independent European foreign policy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjcMoDFU1xg&ab_channel=MichaelvonderSchulenburg This is an edited transcript of Professor Jeffrey Sachs’

consortiumnews.com

QED. Because the US wouldn't bend to Putin's demands it's our fault he invaded Ukraine.

I'm not sure who you're including with your "our", but I certainly played no part in walking away from the peace agreement that almost was. The concessions that Ukraine would have made were quite reasonable. While not quite the same, I see them as similar to Russia agreeing to remove its nukes from Cuba in exchange for the U.S. removing its nukes from Turkey during the Cuban missile crisis. Unfortunately, the U.S. and the U.K. encouraged Zelensky to walk away from that peace agreement and millions of Ukrainians have paid a very high price for that decision as a result.

 

[Scott]

How would he have ended the war? Remember, Putin is the aggressor here.

Putin-defenders and MAGAts share a common trait: It's not their fault. It's someone else's fault that Putin invaded Ukraine just like he did in 2014, Georgia and Chechnya.

Trump can rightly claim that his Administration wasn't in charge when Putin decided to start his military operation in Ukraine. As I explained to you in post #29, it was Biden's Administration that made the fateful decisions that led to said operation, which even Russians are now calling a war.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I'm not sure who you're including with your "our",

It's in the sentence: "the US". You know, the nation you blame for Putin attacking Ukraine.

I certainly played no part in walking away from the peace agreement that almost was. The concessions that Ukraine would have made were quite reasonable. While not quite the same, I see them as similar to Russia agreeing to remove its nukes from Cuba in exchange for the U.S. removing its nukes from Turkey during the Cuban missile crisis. Unfortunately, the U.S. and the U.K. encouraged Zelensky to walk away from that peace agreement and millions of Ukrainians have paid a very high price for that decision as a result.

QED

Just so you know, I support the CIA taking out hostile foreign agents.

 

[Scott]

Because the US wouldn't bend to Putin's demands it's our fault he invaded Ukraine.

I'm not sure who you're including with your "our"

It's in the sentence: "the US".

Many Americans never agreed to the Biden Administration's decisions leading up to Russia's military operation/war in Ukraine. I even gave you a good example, that of American Professor and Statesman Jeffrey Sachs, who did his best to try to get at least one Biden official to make a decision that may well have curtailed Putin's decision that the only way to resolve the problems in the Ukraine situation was the special military operation he started on February 24, 2022. It's all there in post #29. You never responded to that post. Why is that?

 

[gfm7175]

So Trump is powerless? A promise broken.

So Trump is all powerful? Nothing was broken.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Many Americans never agreed to the Biden Administration's decisions leading up to Russia's military operation/war in Ukraine. I even gave you a good example, that of American Professor and Statesman Jeffrey Sachs, who did his best to try to get at least one Biden official to make a decision that may well have curtailed Putin's decision that the only way to resolve the problems in the Ukraine situation was the special military operation he started on February 24, 2022. It's all there in post #29. You never responded to that post. Why is that?

Link? How many is "many", comrade Scott?

What Sachs wrote and your interpretation of it are two different things, tovarish. Thanks again for blaming the US for Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

 

[AProudLefty]

So Trump is all powerful? Nothing was broken.

Trump promised to end the war.

 

[gfm7175]

No, but it seems that Trump realizes that escalating things further with Russia risks a nuclear war. Tell me, who would a nuclear war benefit? I know that Zelensky doesn't seem to mind the idea, but then, all of Zelensky's choices are bad and perhaps taking his chances in a nuclear holocaust then live with the fact that he could have ended the war shortly after it began, and on much better terms then he'll be getting now.

Zelenskyy will probably be on one of his world travels at such a time, so he won't care while his country gets nuked to smithereens. He seems to not care about it at the moment the way it is.

But my guess is that if any country has issues with nuclear fallout in the next year or two, it will be Iran.

 

[Scott]

Many Americans never agreed to the Biden Administration's decisions leading up to Russia's military operation/war in Ukraine. I even gave you a good example, that of American Professor and Statesman Jeffrey Sachs, who did his best to try to get at least one Biden official to make a decision that may well have curtailed Putin's decision that the only way to resolve the problems in the Ukraine situation was the special military operation he started on February 24, 2022. It's all there in post #29. You never responded to that post. Why is that?

Link?

If you're referring to post #29, the link was in the text itself, but in case that didn't work for some reason, it's here:

Post in thread 'Trump's 'Vladimir, STOP!' Plea Is Making People Face-Palm On Social Media'

Apr 25, 2025

I'm not sure if Trump would have avoided a war with Russia, but I sincerely doubt he would have done worse than Biden on this one. Now if Trump would just make good on walking away from the Ukraine conflict, I think it could finally end.

What did Biden do wrong? Are you saying that Russia's invasion of Ukraine was Joe's fault?

Perhaps not Joe personally, but certainly his Administration. American Professor and Statesman Jeffrey Sachs tried to persuade Jake Sullivan to avoid the war to no avail. I'll quote from an article that is essentially a transcript from Sach's speech...

• Scott

Many Americans never agreed to the Biden Administration's decisions leading up to Russia's military operation/war in Ukraine.

How many is "many", comrade Scott?

I certainly don't have a count, but perhaps a better question, how many Americans -agreed- to the Biden Administration's actions that antagonized Russia sufficiently to start its military operation in Ukraine? One doesn't need to be Russian to realize that this is a rather important point.

What Sachs wrote and your interpretation of it are two different things, tovarish.

In what way do you believe I misinterpreted Mr. Sach's speech/article?

Thanks again for blaming the US for Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

Again, I don't believe it's fair to say that all Americans played a part in the Biden Administration's handling of Russia in the months leading up to Russia's military operation in Ukraine. As I pointed out, some Americans, such as American Professor and Statesman Jeffrey Sachs tried hard to get the U.S. to steer clear of the metaphorical iceberg that the Biden Administration was heading towards. For those who'd like the details, please take a look at the following post I wrote in response to another of Dutch Uncle's posts:

Post in thread 'Trump's 'Vladimir, STOP!' Plea Is Making People Face-Palm On Social Media'

Apr 25, 2025

I'm not sure if Trump would have avoided a war with Russia, but I sincerely doubt he would have done worse than Biden on this one. Now if Trump would just make good on walking away from the Ukraine conflict, I think it could finally end.

What did Biden do wrong? Are you saying that Russia's invasion of Ukraine was Joe's fault?

Perhaps not Joe personally, but certainly his Administration. American Professor and Statesman Jeffrey Sachs tried to persuade Jake Sullivan to avoid the war to no avail. I'll quote from an article that is essentially a transcript from Sach's speech...

• Scott

 

[Scott]

So Trump is powerless?

No, but it seems that Trump realizes that escalating things further with Russia risks a nuclear war. Tell me, who would a nuclear war benefit? I know that Zelensky doesn't seem to mind the idea, but then, all of Zelensky's choices are bad and perhaps taking his chances in a nuclear holocaust then live with the fact that he could have ended the war shortly after it began, and on much better terms then he'll be getting now.

Zelenskyy will probably be on one of his world travels at such a time, so he won't care while his country gets nuked to smithereens. He seems to not care about it at the moment the way it is.

I haven't seen any evidence that Zelensky doesn't care about his country, but I -definitely- strongly suspect that he's lost touch with reality. From what I've read, I see absolutely no way that Ukraine can "win" against Russia. In so far as making Russia "lose", the only way I see that happening is a nuclear war with the U.S., and at that point, it's not just Russia that would lose- everyone would be in dire straights at that point. I think that deep down Trump knows this, which is why, when in that White House tussle with Zelensky, he had the following exchange:
**
Trump: “You’re playing cards. You’re gambling with the lives of millions of people. You’re gambling with World War III.”


Zelenskyy: “What are you speaking about?”

Trump: “You’re gambling with World War III.
**

Source:

What they said: Trump, Zelenskyy and Vance's heated argument in the Oval Office

President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance had a heated exchange with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in the Oval Office over the war in Ukraine, accusing him of not showing gratitude after he challenged Vance on the question of diplomacy with Russia’s Vladimir Putin.

apnews.com

Rather sad that Trump literally had to repeat himself for Zelensky to clue in to something that should have been obvious.

 

[gfm7175]

I haven't seen any evidence that Zelensky doesn't care about his country,

I have. I've seen Zelenskyy casually traveling all over the world when he has a war to fight in his own country. I've seen him ban all opposition media, opposition parties, and even refuse to hold an election (assuming the role of a dictator). He doesn't seem to give a shit about his country or its citizens.

but I -definitely- strongly suspect that he's lost touch with reality.

That's true. If he ever had touch with reality, it was a LOOOOONG time ago.

From what I've read, I see absolutely no way that Ukraine can "win" against Russia.

Agreed. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that Ukraine/NATO/CIA/USA Shadow Government (Jan 2021-Jan 2025) has already lost.

In so far as making Russia "lose", the only way I see that happening is a nuclear war with the U.S., and at that point, it's not just Russia that would lose- everyone would be in dire straights at that point.

Thankfully, that's a war that neither Putin nor Trump wish to fight.

I think that deep down Trump knows this, which is why, when in that White House tussle with Zelensky, he had the following exchange:
**
Trump: “You’re playing cards. You’re gambling with the lives of millions of people. You’re gambling with World War III.”


Zelenskyy: “What are you speaking about?”

Trump: “You’re gambling with World War III.
**

Source:

What they said: Trump, Zelenskyy and Vance's heated argument in the Oval Office

President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance had a heated exchange with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in the Oval Office over the war in Ukraine, accusing him of not showing gratitude after he challenged Vance on the question of diplomacy with Russia’s Vladimir Putin.

apnews.com

Rather sad that Trump literally had to repeat himself for Zelensky to clue in to something that should have been obvious.

Unfortunately, I do think that WWIII is going to occur at some point before 2030, and I do think that it will successfully usher in a "One World Government".

WWI ---> League of Nations
WWII ---> United Nations
WWIII ---> ?????

 

[Magats_Love_NHB]

But, no, we can't elect a woman President, she'd make us look weak on the international stage.

Fuck's sake

 

[Scott]

I haven't seen any evidence that Zelensky doesn't care about his country

I have. I've seen Zelenskyy casually traveling all over the world when he has a war to fight in his own country. I've seen him ban all opposition media, opposition parties, and even refuse to hold an election (assuming the role of a dictator). He doesn't seem to give a shit about his country or its citizens.

In terms of travelling all over the world, it seems he's been doing that to get more money and weapons for the Ukraine war. I'm not saying that this is the best thing for Ukraine, but I can believe that he -thinks- it is.

but I -definitely- strongly suspect that he's lost touch with reality.

That's true. If he ever had touch with reality, it was a LOOOOONG time ago.

Yeah. 10 years ago comes to mind. Here's what he was saying back then, when he was still just a comedian:
"Today, our President, the most important one, Barrack Obama, has promised that we will join NATO soon, as an American henchman, ofcourse."

Source (above starts at about 1:10):

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Irs1aGIUg&ab_channel=ATruthSeeker


10 years later, it looks like he's finally come to realize that the promise of joining NATO was just a pipe dream. I'm not sure if he's now realized that he should have taken the advice of American Statesmen Jeffrey Sachs to agree to the peace deal near the start Russia's war in Ukraine, but I imagine that knowledge will come in time, assuming he survives this war.

From what I've read, I see absolutely no way that Ukraine can "win" against Russia.

Agreed. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that Ukraine/NATO/CIA/USA Shadow Government (Jan 2021-Jan 2025) has already lost.

Yep. I suspect that the western elites who helped instigate this war now know full well there's no way that they can win, so it just becomes a game of prolonging Ukraine's inevitable defeat as long as possible.

In so far as making Russia "lose", the only way I see that happening is a nuclear war with the U.S., and at that point, it's not just Russia that would lose- everyone would be in dire straights at that point.

Thankfully, that's a war that neither Putin nor Trump wish to fight.

Agreed. I've never been a fan of Trump for the most part, but I found it patently embarassing that Trump had to remind the press that Russia had nukes and to again remind Zelensky just how far things could go.

I think that deep down Trump knows this, which is why, when in that White House tussle with Zelensky, he had the following exchange:
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Trump: “You’re playing cards. You’re gambling with the lives of millions of people. You’re gambling with World War III.”


Zelenskyy: “What are you speaking about?”

Trump: “You’re gambling with World War III.
**

Source:

What they said: Trump, Zelenskyy and Vance's heated argument in the Oval Office

President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance had a heated exchange with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in the Oval Office over the war in Ukraine, accusing him of not showing gratitude after he challenged Vance on the question of diplomacy with Russia’s Vladimir Putin.

apnews.com

Rather sad that Trump literally had to repeat himself for Zelensky to clue in to something that should have been obvious.

Unfortunately, I do think that WWIII is going to occur at some point before 2030, and I do think that it will successfully usher in a "One World Government".

WWI ---> League of Nations
WWII ---> United Nations
WWIII ---> ?????

Not going to be much government at all if there's truly a nuclear holocaust. To paraphrase an old saying, I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with, but World War 4 will be fought with spears . So here's to hoping humanity manages to avert killing itself in the near future. A low bar, but definitely a necessary one to keep on going.