"BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP - IT'S "ALL OVER RED ROVER" SCOTUS WILL RULE IN FAVOUR OF TRUMP

[FastLane]

Illegals still have the benefit of Constitutional Protections.

Undocumented Immigrants have Constitutional Rights too

By: Aisosa Osaretin Disclaimer: The views expressed in this post are those of the author, and do not necessarily reflect views of the Journal, the William H. Bowen School of ... Undocumented Immigrants have Constitutional Rights too

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What constitutional rights do undocumented immigrants have?

The administration’s “zero-tolerance” immigration policy and the recent surge in family separations at the border -- a practice President Donald Trump ended through executive order -- has called attention to the legal rights of immigrants under U.S. law.

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So did Native Americans prior to 1924.

 

[gmark77]

They don't have the RIGHT to have a permanent domicile in the US.

Illegals are afforded the same Constitutional Protections you have.

End of story.

 

[gmark77]

And there are TWO SCOTUS cases Wong Kim Ark and Elk v Wilkins. I'm not afraid to look at both of them in depth. Are you afraid?

Birthright Citizenship has existed for a very long time in the USA. SCOTUS agreed and affirmed this.

End of discussion.

 

[Lionfish]

Illegals are afforded the same Constitutional Protections you have.

End of story.

wrong

 

[gmark77]

wrong

No, unfortunately, I am not wrong. Birthright citizenship has been affirmed by SCOTUS.

 

[Into the Night]

I can easily dismiss you.

Argument of the Stone fallacy.

You are nothing to me, so why would I not be able to do so. You are manifestly wrong on the Constitution so you are dismissed.

Argument of the Stone fallacy. Discard of the Constitution. Assumption of victory fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

You can't dismiss anyone when you have fewer than 100 posts on JPP.

He's attempting an argument of the Stone...a fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Because it doesn't matter. SCOTUS upheld the interp and it stands. You are arguing against the Supreme Court. That means you are, by definition, the one who is wrong.

Sorry but you are not a co-equal branch of the government.

SCOTUS is not the Constitution, Gunky. It is not God either.

 

[gmark77]

Argument of the Stone fallacy.

Argument of the Stone fallacy. Discard of the Constitution. Assumption of victory fallacy.

Does not change the fact that SCOTUS has affirmed Birthright Citizenship in the USA. It's the law of the land and has been for 125 years.

End of discussion. All you are doing now is merely repeating incorrect information.

 

[gmark77]

SCOTUS is not the Constitution, Gunky. It is not God either.

Nor did anyone say that it was. But Marbury v Madison made it such that ONLY SCOTUS has the ability to determine if something is Constitutional or not.

They affirmed Birthright Citizenship.

Ergo Birthright Citizenship is in the Constitution and is real. And is the law of the land.

 

[Into the Night]

I can easily dismiss arguments that are simply wrong.

Arguing against SCOTUS makes you wrong on the facts. Sorry!

Assumption of victory fallacy. Argument of the Stone fallacy. SCOTUS is not the Constitution nor God, Gunky.

 

[gmark77]

He's attempting an argument of the Stone...a fallacy.

No, I have told you repeatedly why you are in error. There is no other way to read the plain language. SCOTUS has affirmed Birthright Citizenship. It is the law of the land.

QED.

Anything you say in opposition to this is, ipso facto, wrong.

 

[gmark77]

Assumption of victory fallacy. Argument of the Stone fallacy. SCOTUS is not the Constitution nor God, Gunky.

Not only ASSUMPTION of victory. Full on victory. You are simply wrong. And it has been explained to you so simply that even a person with far more mental limitations than yours could understand it.

 

[Into the Night]

Again, your interp does not matter AT ALL to ANYONE.

He is not interpreting anything. He simply quoted the relevant part of the Constitution you are ignoring.

Sorry to break it to you but you are simply just blathering bullshit here.

The Constitution isn't bullshit.

It's nice to say and you are free to want it to be that way. But you are not right about the facts.

Buzzword fallacy. Go learn what 'fact' means. It does NOT mean 'Universal Truth'.

The US has birthright citizenship. End of discussion.

Not to illegal aliens or their offspring. Termination fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

United States v. Wong Kim Ark

Random quote. No apparent coherency.

 

[Into the Night]

SCOTUS affirms Birthright Citizenship.

SCOTUS is not the Constitution, Gunky.

You want to change it? You have to AMEND THE CONSTITUTION.

Nothing need to be amended, Gunky.

There is NO APPEAL to the SCOTUS ruling.

SCOTUS has no authority to change the Constitution, Gunky.

You will have to wait until either you get enough votes to amend the Constitution or you get the right activist Right Wing Trump Judges on SCOTUS to eliminate stare decisis.

SCOTUS has no authority to change the Constitution, Gunky.

YOU are nothing in this conversation.

Argument of the Stone fallacy. Bulverism fallacy.

Again, sorry if you are confused about your role in the decisions of what is or isn't in the COnstitution.

SCOTUS doesn't determine what is in the Constitution, Gunky.

 

[Into the Night]

What's to debate? Wanna debate if 1+1= 2?

Random phrase. No apparent coherency.

WHo cares? Seriously. WHO FUCKING CARES.

People of the United States do.

The US has had Birthright Citizenship for over a century now ergo you are dismissed.

Not to illegal aliens or their offspring.
Termination fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Illegals still have the benefit of Constitutional Protections.

The Constitution isn't "protections", Gunky. Illegal aliens are subjects of the jurisdiction of their originating nation. Illegal aliens broke the law and are immediately subject to deportation. No hearing of any kind is required.

 

[Into the Night]

No, unfortunately, I am not wrong. Birthright citizenship has been affirmed by SCOTUS.

There is no such thing as 'birthright citizenship'. The phrase appears nowhere in the Constitution. SCOTUS is not the Constitution, Gunky.

 

[Into the Night]

Does not change the fact that SCOTUS has affirmed Birthright Citizenship in the USA. It's the law of the land and has been for 125 years.

End of discussion. All you are doing now is merely repeating incorrect information.

It has never been law of the land, Gunky.