Pew 2024 religious landscape survey

T. A. Gardner said:
Feeding and housing the poor is best done by people who have a desire to do it, and those that want to give to that cause. When government does it, the whole thing just ends up fucked up totally. From public housing projects to general welfare, the government is bad--horrible--at charity.


I wouldn't care. I might be interested in what he had to say, but I wouldn't be out to pillory him. But I'd bet a Leftist, like you, would in a heartbeat the second he said something that wasn't party doctrine. After all, that is essentially why Jesus was crucified the first time.


It's that many of those are run by corrupt assholes bent on little more than self-enrichment who know how to sell shit to the gullible and idiots. The few that aren't gain a following that stays the course with them because they're genuine.
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Where do your opinions fit into the Noble Eightfold Path, Terry.

Let me remind you since you don't appear to know about it:
  1. Right view
  2. Right resolve
  3. Right speech
  4. Right conduct
  5. Right livelihood
  6. Right effort
  7. Right mindfulness
  8. Right samadhi (meditative absorption or union)
 
Diesel said:
Or they join another preexisting church that more closely aligns with their beliefs. I doubt that wokeism is driving many religious people away from religion. Science, rationality, research, and logic do that. Terry's just a grumpy MAGAt who's going to bitch about woke libs in every thread he enters.
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Some Xtians (mostly nondenominational) shop churches like you do a place to have lunch. Mr. Owl's got a couple of family members who do that. They are ultra RW Trumpers, too. What they want is fellowship/friendliness, RW political bias, and teachings that they agree with. Prob. most churchy people do the same these days.
 
Yakuda said:
So?
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See? I didn't need to dictate or put constraints on what this thread was supposed to be about. The opening post was just an invitation, peppered with interesting statistical data. The national and global religious landscape is an inherently interesting topic on it's own, that many posters freely gave their own insights, and took the thread on interesting tangents.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Some Xtians (mostly nondenominational) shop churches like you do a place to have lunch. Mr. Owl's got a couple of family members who do that. They are ultra RW Trumpers, too. What they want is fellowship/friendliness, RW political bias, and teachings that they agree with. Prob. most churchy people do the same these days.
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Per the previously posted graph, the global median is that 64% of the global population believes in an afterlife as do over half in First World nations. While Mr. Owl's relatives may be looking for RW confirmation bias, I think the over all picture is a desire for spiritual fulfillness.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
It varies by nation/region. Comparing First World nations with emerging nations in the graph below will give a good comparison with the US.

A requirement for both of my degrees was a Statistics class....and having poor math skills was a main reason why I'm not an aeronautical engineer. LOL

A main thing I learned from each is that statistics don't lie, but it's very important to know what question to ask in order to obtain a particular truth. Regardless of religious beliefs or claims of being an agnostic or atheist, knowing what percentage believe in an afterlife is an excellent measure of their spirituality.

That said, the fact Thailand is about 50/50 seems odd to me. Is this something about their particular form of Buddhism or is it because they are half atheists who believe "when you're dead, you're dead".

www.pewresearch.org

2. Beliefs about the afterlife

In nearly every place surveyed, half or more say life after death is likely. Fewer believe in reincarnation or that ancestral spirits can affect their lives. Pew Research Center.
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I suspect there is some western bias in the way the question "life after death " is being asked.

Hindus have a very different concept of what ultimately happens to atman (roughly equivalent to our 'soul') at the achievement of spiritual liberation, and the Buddhists do not conceive ultimately of an individual existence when nirvana is achieved.
 
Cypress said:
I suspect there is some western bias in the way the question "life after death " is being asked.

Hindus have a very different concept of what ultimately happens to atman (roughly equivalent to our 'soul') at the achievement of spiritual liberation, and the Buddhists do not conceive ultimately of an individual existence when nirvana is achieved.
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FWIW, I don't believe in an "individual" existence post mortem either. I believe our sense of individuality is like the cycle of water. There's the Great Ocean and then there are temporary periods where water molecules pass through different states of "invividuality" before rejoing the Great Ocean. Is the water molecule lost when it arrives back at the ocean? No. It becomes part of something greater.

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Dutch Uncle said:
Per the previously posted graph, the global median is that 64% of the global population believes in an afterlife as do over half in First World nations. While Mr. Owl's relatives may be looking for RW confirmation bias, I think the over all picture is a desire for spiritual fulfillness.
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Which can be found in most houses of worship. My S.I.L. deliberately chose to walk away from her Lutheran upbringing because of political differences, she has stated.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
FWIW, I don't believe in an "individual" existence post mortem either. I believe our sense of individuality is like the cycle of water. There's the Great Ocean and then there are temporary periods where water molecules pass through different states of "invividuality" before rejoing the Great Ocean. Is the water molecule lost when it arrives back at the ocean? No. It becomes part of something greater.
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That's a cool way of looking at it. Everything in nature is recycled and reused, so why wouldn't our souls be, if they exist?
 
Cypress said:
I've always kind of known Jews are only a couple percent of the population.

Yes, in the past few decades the percent that actively practices Christianity has substantially dropped.

I always wanted to sleep in on Sundays, and one of the first decisions I made as an autonomous adult in my 20s was to stop going to Sunday service!
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and so that's why you abandoned morality and came to satan.

:truestory:
 
anonymoose said:
I’m hearing the new poop is the same as the old poop.
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It appears so.

Lots of Catholics, including my wife and I, were not pleased with the previous pope.

We accepted his teaching on Catholic doctrine but not his politics which are not part of any pope’s responsibilities.
 
Earl said:
It appears so.

Lots of Catholics, including my wife and I, were not pleased with the previous pope.

We accepted his teaching on Catholic doctrine but not his politics which are not part of any pope’s responsibilities.
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So you're a cafeteria Catholic, pEarl. Most of you cowards are.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I've never seen a single post by a JPP MAGAt that indicates they are walking the path of Christ. All are lip-service Christians and die-hard MAGAts.
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MAGA is the enemy of Christ. MAGAts are evil. They esteem Trump as the second coming, which is sacrilegious. Assholes like @Earl -- plus science, education, medicine, rationality, reason, and logic -- are the reason religion is failing.
 
Diesel said:
MAGA is the enemy of Christ. MAGAts are evil. They esteem Trump as the second coming, which is sacrilegious. Assholes like @Earl -- plus science, education, medicine, rationality, reason, and logic -- are the reason religion is failing.
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Agreed. Notice how not a single JPP MAGAt ever disagrees with his/her Orange Messiah. Even the most die-hard Democrats disagreed with some of Biden's and Obama's actions. It's just another reason to not only accept you are correct, but that MAGA is a cult.
 
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