MAGA senator Ted Cruz calls Trump's jumbo jet foreign gift an espionage risk

[zymurgy]

concern is fine

but it will still save money running this through an inspection vs buying a new plane and running that through inspection

this is a net benefit to US taxpapers - and since we are assholes that export depreciating dollars, it is a net benefit to everyone around the world by stopping some of our excess spending

bump

concern is fine

what says the shit stain liar now?

 

[Into the Night]

Four days ago, @zymurgy claimed I was a blithering idiot for daring to suggest there were national security risks in making a foreign jumbo jet the new AF1.

You ARE a blithering idiot.

 

[Into the Night]

But you are not President, duh

Never said I was President of the United States, anchovies.

“Making up numbers;

Tax Cut Extensions Would Add $37 Trillion to Debt by 2054 | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget

2025-03-24-In a recent letter, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimated that extending and reviving various provisions from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act

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Extending Trump Tax Cuts Would Add $4.6 Trillion to the Deficit, CBO Finds | U.S. Senate Committee On The Budget

The Official U.S. Senate Committee On The Budget

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The Budget and Economic Outlook: 2025 to 2035

By the NumbersThe Budget Outlook, by Fiscal YearNotesSee Appendix B.

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Budget | Congressional Budget Office

CBO's regular budget publications include semiannual reports on the budget and economic outlook, annual reports on the President's budget and the long-term budget picture, and a biannual set of options for reducing budget deficits. CBO also prepares cost estimates and mandate statements for...

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https://bipartisanpolicy.org/blog/the-new-cost-for-2025-tax-cut-extensions-4-trillion/

You got anything to invalidate those numbers?

So you agree with me. The President does not add to the debt.

 

[archives]

Never said I was President of the United States, anchovies.

So you agree with me. The President does not add to the debt.

Just pointing out what you say you are is irrelevant to what Trump wants to do

President’s policies do, and the President is responsible for the effects of policies

Got any more word games you want or play

 

[QP!]

Because he is President of the United States, Kewpie. The President often receives gifts for the U.S.
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But what they do NOT do is funnel that gift into their own possession as Trump is doing.

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No other plane is needed, Kewpie.
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Yes there is, if that plane goes to Trump under his library control. The next POTUS will still need a plane replacement for the current AF1.

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There certainly is...about half a billion dollars.
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False.

If this jet goes to the Trump library then any money spent on it is wasted when the other new jets are delivered as opposed to just waiting for the new jet delivery. If little kids can do with lowering their expectations around dolls and mothers around strollers as Trump justifies why people should tighten their belt and accept some pain then Trump can suffer and fly around on the older private jet. Poor baby.

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Refitting a plane is cheap, and will have to be done for any 747.
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False and lie.

Refitting a plane that can pass the gov't top secret military standards is actually more expensive than the base cost of the plane itself.

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Random words ignored.

No such order, Kewpie.

Random words that show you to be a fool.

Trump is arguing to lower middle class they should prepare for austerity and to do with less while he is pushing to get another private jet as he does not want to wait any longer for the one already ordered.

 

[Into the Night]

Just pointing out what you say you are is irrelevant to what Trump wants to do

You agreed with me, now you want to go back on your links, anchovies?????

President’s policies do, and the President is responsible for the effects of policies

The President doesn't add to the debt, anchovies. Congress does.

Got any more word games you want or play

You can't blame me for your word games, anchovies.

 

[Into the Night]

But what they do NOT do is funnel that gift into their own possession as Trump is doing.

He's not.

Yes there is, if that plane goes to Trump under his library control. The next POTUS will still need a plane replacement for the current AF1.

Fine. He can commission one. The military is quite capable of providing him with one.

False.

If this jet goes to the Trump library then any money spent on it is wasted when the other new jets are delivered as opposed to just waiting for the new jet delivery.

What waste??? The military will take the interior out before it goes to the library. They'll use most of it on the next plane.

If little kids can do with lowering their expectations around dolls and mothers around strollers as Trump justifies why people should tighten their belt and accept some pain then Trump can suffer and fly around on the older private jet. Poor baby.

Random words ignored.

False and lie.

Refitting a plane that can pass the gov't top secret military standards is actually more expensive than the base cost of the plane itself.

No, it isn't. Refitting a plane is cheap. Interiors are cheap. The military already has the special equipment to add to the aircraft.

Random words that show you to be a fool.

I am not you, Kewpie.

Trump is arguing to lower middle class

Paradox. Irrational. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox, Kewpie.

they should prepare for austerity

Glad to see it come! The government spends too much money. It's time for austerity!

and to do with less while he is pushing to get another private jet as he does not want to wait any longer for the one already ordered.

There isn't one ordered, Kewpie.

 

[Walt]

Where are you getting THIS from?!?!?

What percent of the people employed on the planet earth are US citizens?

 

[Walt]

Trump is not the Department of Defense, Walter..............

When trump leaves office, the plane will be transferred from the Department of Defense to the trump library, and used to fly trump around for the rest of his life.

 

[Walt]

a vendor used by the military is still a vendor

That maintain a careful chain of custody.

 

[Walt]

the taxpayer was going to pay twice as much for a new plane. this is not from an anonymous "expert" either - it is the actual spending bill approved

We are paying for new planes, no matter what. What we are discussing here is whether trump should get a new plane for his personal use.

 

[zymurgy]

That maintain a careful chain of custody.

you are an idiot. it is an outside organization.

 

[zymurgy]

We are paying for new planes, no matter what. What we are discussing here is whether trump should get a new plane for his personal use.

you are repeating that lie. I'm not discussing retarded conspiracy theories

 

[gfm7175]

What percent of the people employed on the planet earth are US citizens?

Earth is not the USA, Walter...

 

[gfm7175]

When trump leaves office, the plane will be transferred from the Department of Defense to the trump library, and used to fly trump around for the rest of his life.

^^^ Walter has absolutely NO clue what a presidential library is....

 

[gfm7175]

We are paying for new planes, no matter what. What we are discussing here is whether trump should get a new plane for his personal use.

Trump can buy whatever plane he wants to buy for his own personal use. In fact, Trump already has a plane for such a purpose.

This plane is not being gifted to Trump personally; it is being gifted to the Dept of Defense (and will later become a part of the presidential library)... You're trying sooooooooooooo hard to make a scandal out of absolutely nothing.