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National Debt on Track to Reach Record High in Just Four Years

Last Updated January 17, 2025

Today, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) updated their budget and economic projections, emphasizing a fact that has been known for some time: The United States is on an unsustainable fiscal course marked by large and rising deficits....

1. The national debt is expected to exceed its record high in just four years.​

Debt held by the public was 98 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) in 2024. However, by 2029, the structural mismatch between spending and revenues, along with higher interest payments, will cause federal debt to rise above the nation’s all-time high of 106 percent, which was reached just after World War II. CBO projects that debt will continue rising, reaching 118.5 percent of GDP by 2035.

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But ...but ... @Damocles thinks things are going so well, and doge is cutting so much spending, he is already celebrating the checks he is counting on each citizen getting as the US gov't is rolling in so much surplus.

How can this be? Are you telling me Damo is a not so useful idiot?

Well between the increasing interest rates the tariffs mess is causing and the gutting of revenues via tax cuts, there is also this...

"...While DOGE purports its mission is to improve government efficiency and work toward addressing the nation's fiscal challenges, a new Center for American Progress analysis finds that the Trump administration's cuts to IRS enforcement could cost the federal government nearly $1 trillion in lost net revenue over the next 10 years..." cite
 
Oh ya baby. Damocles sees a healthy fiscal house so...

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/trying to replicate the utter and total stupidity of magats
 
Replacing the will of the people with the whims of billionaires, the House Republican budget provides $4.5 trillion in tax cuts for the rich but does nothing to lower costs for American families. It increases the deficit while inflicting pain on the most vulnerable, even as it raises the debt limit by $4 trillion.... cite

- not only locking in tax cuts for Millionaires and billionaires but making the tax cuts deeper
- severely reducing medicaid to the most vulnerable, overwhelming in magat voting states
- INCREASING THE DEBT BY $4 Trillion

and yet what will Damocles say when Doge posts its next FICTIONAL claim of savings?

He will say the gov't should send out the checks to citizens and make it rain based on what a good job they are doing in saving the taxpayer money.
 

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The Actual Math Behind DOGE’s Cuts

If you thought Elon Musk was really trying to cut costs, you weren’t in on the joke.

...Musk initially promised that he would eliminate $2 trillion of the $7 trillion federal budget, before scaling back his ambitions to $1 trillion, and then $150 billion. Even that revised target is highly improbable....

...Precisely measuring the budgetary effects of the Musk experiment remains difficult, but we can begin by looking at the claims made by DOGE itself. In late February, its website claimed to have achieved $55 billion in annual-spending reductions. However, its “wall of receipts” detailed only $16.5 billion of this total. Half of that figure came from a typo claiming $8 billion in savings from terminating an $8 million contract. As The New York Times has reported, that was far from the only accounting error. Once such mistakes as false contract cancellations, triple counts of the same reform, and the inclusion of contracts that expired decades ago were fixed, verified budget savings stood at just $2 billion....

The DOGE website now claims $165 billion in savings. However, it still details only a fraction of the supposed cuts, and earlier accounting errors have given way to new ones. A common sleight of hand is canceling a “blanket purchase agreement”—in which the recipient had been given the equivalent of a credit limit to incur necessary costs on a project—and then claiming savings of the full credit limit rather than the (in many cases substantially lower) amount that was actually spent. ...

Fortunately, more reliable sources than DOGE’s self-reported figures exist. The best is the Treasury Department’s monthly accounting of spending by agency and program. Any true DOGE spending reductions should show up in these budget totals, as should the results of other White House initiatives, including cuts to public-health spending and the ongoing efforts to eliminate USAID and the Department of Education.

These spending data do not flatter the Musk project. Total federal outlays in February and March were $86 billion (or 7 percent) higher than the levels from the same months a year ago, when adjusted for timing shifts. ..
 
The DATA above and the claim anyone thinking Musk was achieving his cuts was 'not in the joke', shows just how the most stupid magats (ie @Damocles ) ARE THE JOKE.

Since DOGE begun the actual result is Year over Year spending is UP and not down. That is undisputable fact.

But certain people, ...really stupid people,... say ignore all that and lets look at DOGE self reporting ONLY, when Doge was already caught both lying and making multiple significant errors in their prior reporting making them change to not providing the data so it can be fact checked.

So the group busted for lies and bad reporting says 'we will no longer give you data so you can fact check us and you will only have our claims', and the most stupid amongst us thinks posting that claims is proof.

I want you to really consider that last statement. Busted lying on data... says we will no longer attach the data to future claims... and the dumbest amongst thinks that is good and insightful.
 
QP! gets excited when I report what the website says and pretends it is somehow me saying it.

QP! is wrong, because they are wrong they look foolish.

Don't be a QP!
 
QP! gets excited when I report what the website says and pretends it is somehow me saying it.

QP! is wrong, because they are wrong they look foolish.

Don't be a QP!
Damocles seems to forget he has a post history.

Once the clock reaches $2T they plan on sending every taxpayer a check for over $7K... Earlier in this thread I said I would prefer they just used it to pay down debt, but if they send me one I would certainly cash it, ay wot?

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The above is Damocles celebrating getting a check from the gov't, for the fake Doge reporting, he is now trying to pretend he never believed since i have been providing the data showing how stupid he was to buy it, as the sucker he proves to be time and again.

Answer this Damocles, ...when Doge fraudulently posts their fake savings at $2T do you think you should get that check from the gov't even as the gov't under Trump is AGAIN setting new records for adding to the debt while claiming the check is coming because of how much money this gov't is saving?
 
I honestly wonder if Damocles does not know why Trump and Elon and want to send out a check, despite record increases in debt and deficits??

I bet he does not understand that it is because both Trump and Elon know the 'poorly educated' would only look at the check in their hand (lets say $5000 for example) while not understanding their costs have gone up significantly more and the debt and deficit are ballooning, but they understand the most stupid amongst us (ie Damo) will only pay attention to the check in hand and will celebrate that, while not realizing they were duped again.
 
QP!s ignore even in what they quote where I reiterate my actual opinion from earlier in the thread, that I would prefer they not send out checks and would use it to pay down down debt, then says dumb things, because that is QP!

This is because QP! thinks all things flow from Damocles.

Don't be a QP!, it has to hurt when you try to think.
 
QP!s ignore even in what they quote where I reiterate my actual opinion from earlier in the thread, that I would prefer they not send out checks and would use it to pay down down debt, then says dumb things, because that is QP!

This is because QP! thinks all things flow from Damocles.

Don't be a QP!, it has to hurt when you try to think.
Poor Damo still does not understand that post histories and that while he wants to pretend he would only reluctantly take it, the 'make it rain' meme, is a statement that he believes the US would be rolling in so much riches that you just spend without fear, which is what that statement means.

Once the clock reaches $2T they plan on sending every taxpayer a check for over $7K... Earlier in this thread I said I would prefer they just used it to pay down debt, but if they send me one I would certainly cash it, ay wot?

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Anyone who is pegging any claimed FALSE Doge reports of savings to a trigger of when they would accept the gov't sending out checks to make it rain, is simply too stupid to have real conversations with.

Under Trump and this budget the House is in, the US is again set to have RECORD deficits and additions to the debt under Trump.

If you truly care about deficits and debts, even the most ardent Trump supporters should be calling BS on the Doge spin that they are saving so much money they can send out checks.

If you are not doing that, like Damocles, and in any way showing Musk and Trump and the Dem House that all they need to do is lie to you and offer you a check now of $X, while increasing your annual costs by 5 or 10 X and piling on the debt, then you are absolutely the poorly educated dupe Trump spoke about.

The ONLY reason they want to send out a check is knowing that certain people (poorly educated) will see one seemingly big payment in hand as more valuable than the increase in monthly costs, and the debt that far exceed that.
 
And in case you are still not clear Damocles, your stupidity is that you believe Doge and Trump that they are heading to mass savings and surplus and thus that 'justifies the check'.

The fact is they are heading to RECORD DEFICITS AND DEBT, and so you believing there is any check they should send out, to put in your pocket or put towards debt, is just your stupidity and why Trump loves the poorly educated.

You, Damocles, are discussing what to do with a illusion and lie because you have bought the illusion and lie, as you ALWAYS, 100% of the time, fall for.

A smart person would instead say 'this is all BS and there is no money to send out or to pay down debt with and in fact we are adding to the deficit and thus the debt and you need to stop that'.

Instead Damocles you clap like a seal celebrating them, telling them you bought the lie and they can go ahead.
 
Again, reporting on what a website says is not belief. DP!'s insistence that it is makes DP! look stupid. Don't be a DP!
 

DOGE's $160 billion in savings have cost $135 billion, analysis finds​



And make no mistake because there is a huge wave (and it will only grow) of lawsuits being filed against the government for wrongful dismissal and for defacto dissolving Agencies that Congress established and the Executive has no power to dissolve.

The gov't is going to have to pay multiples of peoples yearly salary, to them for those dismissals.

Firing people improperly almost always leads to significant court awards to those fired or forced to quit.
 
Again, reporting on what a website says is not belief. DP!'s insistence that it is makes DP! look stupid. Don't be a DP!
Damocles, when you say and celebrate that you 'want the check to go to pay down the debt but would take it, if given to you'...

that exposes your "belief" there is a check to be issued.

What is this 'check' you speak of when the deficit and debt run to record high levels?

How do you 'pay down debt' with that check, when that check would only be cut by adding to the deficit?

I want you to read that last sentence again and really try to comprehend it.

If you (Damocles) owe the bank $10,000 (debt) and yearly you are adding to the debt $1000, via drawing down your line of credit and not paying it off and instead rolling it to the debt. Then like Trump, you claim you are going to cut a check to 'pay down your debt' (because your wife is pressuring you to pay it off) but what you do is draw down money from your line of credit to do so, while you also INCREASE your spending and the money you are putting on your line of credit...

...please Damocles, explain what is to celebrate in that?

Please tell us, even you, can see you would solely be playing a shell game (lying to your wife) where the check you issue is MEANINGLESS and only is 'Optics for the Poorly Educated', and that things are actually getting worse and NOT better.

Do you understand that Damocles? Or is it beyond your ability to comprehend?
 
Damocles, when you say and celebrate that you 'want the check to go to pay down the debt but would take it, if given to you'...

that exposes your "belief" there is a check to be issued.

What is this 'check' you speak of when the deficit and debt run to record high levels?

How do you 'pay down debt' with that check, when that check would only be cut by adding to the deficit?

I want you to read that last sentence again and really try to comprehend it.

If you (Damocles) owe the bank $10,000 (debt) and yearly you are adding to the debt $1000, via drawing down your line of credit and not paying it off and instead rolling it to the debt. Then like Trump, you claim you are going to cut a check to 'pay down your debt' (because your wife is pressuring you to pay it off) but what you do is draw down money from your line of credit to do so, while you also INCREASE your spending and the money you are putting on your line of credit...

...please Damocles, explain what is to celebrate in that?

Please tell us, even you, can see you would solely be playing a shell game (lying to your wife) where the check you issue is MEANINGLESS and only is 'Optics for the Poorly Educated', and that things are actually getting worse and NOT better.

Do you understand that Damocles? Or is it beyond your ability to comprehend?
Geebus. I was clearly sarcastic.

What I said: I would prefer if they keep the money to pay down the debt, but "if they do" I would cash it.

What you keep saying I said: Boy I believe everything the website reports.

What you do not have is reading comprehension. You are a special kind of stupid.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F977lbkdy4
 
Damocles a serious question if you will answer.

Now i suspect you will not answer as it would force you to recognize that Trump and Elon and maga lied to you and suckered you and many prefer to just ignore or live in denial of that truth but...

Now that it is clear that the main focus of the Budget bill the Magats in the House are pushing is deepening again, the tax cuts for the wealthiest American's and locking them in as permanent, while allowing the lesser tax relief provided to the middle class and poor to expire and also cutting Medicaid and food programs and all programs across the board that help the working poor, do you acknowledge that Trumps ENTIRE populist, 'i am for the working man' schtick was all just a lie?
 
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What I said: I would prefer if they keep the money to pay down the debt, but "if they do" I would cash it.

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You simpleton, brain dead moron. You just believing 'there is money to keep to pay down the debt' is the problem.

Again, if you have a debt to the bank to the bank of $10,000 and you add to each year by $1000 because you live beyond your means and draw that down on your line of credit and then roll it to your debt...

YOU DO NOT have the ability to 'cut a check to pay down your debt by drawing an extra $1000 MORE on your line of credit that year'.


How do you not understand that? How many ways can i explain it to you.

Drawing a check, while running a deficit on your line credit IN NO WAY 'pays down the debt you have' even if you pay it to the debt.

It is a shell game. Take it by adding to the deficit and say you are paying down debt and then roll in the deficit into the debt after the fact to fool the poorly educated.


When you read the above Damocles are you completely lost?

Tell me this is literally you reading the above as you get lost in confusion...
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