Into the Night
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Byrd used a pistol.
He didn't. No one was coming through a window. No other officer in the area felt the need to shoot anyone or indeed to get violent at all.
Now We Need To Revisit Lt. Michael Byrd
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Into the Night
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They are AGAIN trying to blame Democrat rioting on Trump.
Into the Night
Verified User
Go back and read them.
Into the Night
Verified User
His trouble is a simple one. He doesn't understand English. He constantly types random words he saw somewhere.
Into the Night
Verified User
That you do, Sybil.Sybil lives in a world of his own.
IBDaMann
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You suck at logic.
IBDaMann
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And here it is.
First, you didn't post any video.
Then you posted a video of indistinguishable chaos.
Then you posted images that were not video.
You clearly cannot meet the reasonable requirements of supporting your disinformative claims.
IBDaMann
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I didn't claim that your video didn't show violence. I noted that your video didn't support your disinformation. Try posting a video that does.
If I didn't post a video then how could I link to the post where I posted a video? At this point you seem to have completely lost all connections with reality.
Ah yes. The violence you said wasn't in any video that you are now dismissing as chaos.
Then I posted links to 3 people that were indicted and sentenced and were visible in the video that you dismissed as chaos.
Your argument that stills from video aren't valid while dismissing the videos as chaos shows how delusional you are.
You clearly are so committed to your delusions that you won't accept anything that doesn't fit your delusions.
Nice deflection. I didn't post any disinformation. Since I didn't post any disinformation, I couldn't have posted a video in support of disinformation.
Round and round we go with IBDaMann's delusional positions.
He says I didn't post a video. He sticks to that position even when presented evidence to the contrary.
He says the video doesn't show violence. Then he says he didn't say the video didn't show violence.
He says the video is to chaotic to identify anyone. Then he says that stills from the video aren't video so don't count.
T. A. Gardner
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Preponderance of evidence. Two out of three persons further back in the hallway, the one in the doorway approximately at H 213 clearly is in a dark blue uniform with a visible silver badge on their left chest and is likely holding a rifle. The second in the doorway at the far end of the hallway is likewise in all dark blue clothing similar to the person at H213. The person that moves in the hallway is in a suit, jacket unbuttoned and does not attract the attention of either of the two police officers. In fact, he interacts with the officer in H213 or appears to do so.
Given that the Capitol police were trying to keep protesters / rioters out of that hallway and protect congressional staff and members, if the guy in the hallway was any of those, you'd expect the two uniformed police officers visible to react to them. But they don't. Therefore, it is quite reasonable to assume that the suited man is Capitol police as well.
See post 204 at about 27 seconds. You can clearly make out everything I just cited.
It appears that just down the hallway in the second doorway is someone with a badge. There is no long gun visible. They then appear to direct the person in the suit and mask to exit the hallway through the door where he is located as we see an arm come out to guide the person. All male staffers are most likely to be wearing dark suits as are most male members of Congress. It is impossible to see who the person is coming down the hall but is likely an authorized person who is being sent to safety. If there is no threat, why is this second officer in the doorway and barely visible instead of standing in the middle of the hall?
At the 30 second mark as Byrd moves forward, you see the person in the next doorway also move forward and it is possible they are also raising a weapon at that point. It is too blurry to tell but the movement and the glint of something could well be someone moving into a shooting position. Look at where that second person is just over Byrd's arm. If you go frame by frame it appears the person is raising a gun and taking a shooting position.
The person who exits out the far end in the first few seconds is likely a police officer as there appears to be lettering on the back of their jacket. The fact that they exit quickly doesn't mean there is no threat.
There are also two other people that arrive at the end of the hallway just about the time of the shooting. Watch their movement as well. They appear to be reacting to a threat.
The two uniformed police officers outside with the protestors do not look down the hall but are watching the protestors while waiting for help to arrive. They leave when they saw the armed police down the stairwell.
This includes a second video that is straight on down the hall. Check out the guy in the second doorway at around the 29-30 second mark.
New videos capture fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt during Capitol siege
Babbitt, 35, was among several supporters of the president who overpowered police and breached the US Capitol in an attempt to disrupt the certification of the 2020 presidential election in favor o…
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At the 30 second point it is much more obvious that this second officer is also raising his gun when Babbitt starts to go through the window. The light grey are the officer's hands coming up.
T. A. Gardner
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If Babbitt was such a threat, why was Byrd the only one with a weapon drawn, pointed at her and the rioters? Wouldn't the other officers see the threat equally? Seems to me Byrd completely misread the situation, panicked, and in disregard for his training did stupid shit. It wasn't the first time he demonstrated he was unfit as an officer either.It appears that just down the hallway in the second doorway is someone with a badge. There is no long gun visible. They then appear to direct the person in the suit and mask to exit the hallway through the door where he is located as we see an arm come out to guide the person. All male staffers are most likely to be wearing dark suits as are most male members of Congress. It is impossible to see who the person is coming down the hall but is likely an authorized person who is being sent to safety. If there is no threat, why is this second officer in the doorway and barely visible instead of standing in the middle of the hall?
At the 30 second mark as Byrd moves forward, you see the person in the next doorway also move forward and it is possible they are also raising a weapon at that point. It is too blurry to tell but the movement and the glint of something could well be someone moving into a shooting position. Look at where that second person is just over Byrd's arm. If you go frame by frame it appears the person is raising a gun and taking a shooting position.
The person who exits out the far end in the first few seconds is likely a police officer as there appears to be lettering on the back of their jacket. The fact that they exit quickly doesn't mean there is no threat.
There are also two other people that arrive at the end of the hallway just about the time of the shooting. Watch their movement as well. They appear to be reacting to a threat.
The two uniformed police officers outside with the protestors do not look down the hall but are watching the protestors while waiting for help to arrive. They leave when they saw the armed police down the stairwell.
This includes a second video that is straight on down the hall. Check out the guy in the second doorway at around the 29-30 second mark.
New videos capture fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt during Capitol siege
Babbitt, 35, was among several supporters of the president who overpowered police and breached the US Capitol in an attempt to disrupt the certification of the 2020 presidential election in favor o…
At the 30 second point it is much more obvious that this second officer is also raising his gun when Babbitt starts to go through the window. The light grey are the officer's hands coming up.
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IBDaMann
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The officers were required to hype it up.
Better Question :Why would officers who genuinely expected rioting simply open the doors to the public and offer mini-tours? Did a Capitol police officer volunteer to take this picture? Let's recall that your position is that deadly force should have been used on all of these people pictured because they are potential Trump supporters and are within a few feet of other officers.
Correction: Since Byrd wanted to off someone, ...
Why did he pick an unarmed woman who posed no threat to anyone? Oh, that's right, he just wanted to off someone.
Did he bother to wait for an her to do something threatening? Of course not. She was an unarmed woman. If he had waited for her to do something threatening in some way, the universe would have died a heat death first, i.e. he would have lost his opportunity to off someone.
You posted a link to a post with a still image.
Ah yes. The indistinguishable chaos that you delusionally claimed was clear video of an identifiable individual perpetrating violence on a police officer is being summarily dismissed because it is only video of indistinguishable chaos.
Nope. You did not show video that met the requirements. If you'd like to try again, post the video with a time hack where the video shows what you are talking about, and give me the specifics so I can look up the arraignment.
This post of yours didn't contain any videos that meet requirements.
IBDaMann
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Nice pivot.
Every post of yours is disinformation, and because it is disinformation, you cannot support any of it.
Round and round we go with Poor Richard Saunders unable to post videos showing identifiable people actually attacking police who are later arraigned. Round and round we go with Poor Richard Saunders continuing to be unable to support his disinformation campaign.
He wasn't the only one with a weapon drawn. As I pointed out and if you bothered to look at the video it is pretty obvious that the other officer also had a weapon out and pointed at Babbitt.
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
The one you say didn't have a rifle?
Round and round we go with IBDaMann delusions.
I posted a video. You simply deny that you can see anyone in it.
Now I will post a couple of stills from the video that make it easy to identify the people attacking Fanone.
This is Kyle Young
This is Alberqueque Head
Post a screenshot if him with a rifle. I posted a screenshot of him appearing to point a pistol at Babbitt. Did you bother to actually look at the video?
Here is a series of screenshots showing that officer from the video as Byrd moves forward and fires.
What do you think this officer is doing? It looks to me like he is raising a weapon to a firing position.
