Bruce Springsteen on "This is happening now in America."
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Of course he is, shit for brains.
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"There's some very weird, strange, and dangerous s*** going on out there right now. In America they are persecuting people for using their right to free speech and voicing their dissent. This is happening now. In America the richest men are taking satisfaction in abandoning the world’s poorest children to sickness and death. This is happening now.
“In my country they're taking sadistic pleasure in the pain they inflict on loyal American workers. They're rolling back historic civil rights legislation that has led to a more just and plural society. They are abandoning our great allies and siding with dictators against those struggling for their freedom. They are defunding American universities that won’t bow down to their ideological demands.
“They are removing residents off American streets and without due process of law, are deporting them to foreign detention centers and prisons. This is all happening now."
That is almost entirely a recitation of events, not political opinion.
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Carol Kaye has revealed she will not be accepting her ‘Music Excellence Award’ at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Carol is 90 years old having recently celebrated her Birthday on March 24th.
In April, Kaye was included in the Class of 2025 alongside The White Stripes, Bad Company, Chubby Checker, Joe Cocker, Cyndi Lauper, Soundgarden, OutKast, Salt N Pepa, Warren Zevon, Thom Bell, Nicky Hopkins, and Lenny Waronker.
People are generally very supportive of Carol because she has always been a tough cookie. She had to be to make it in a traditionally male dominated workplace like the musicians union for session players in the 60’s. She is well known to bristle against the term ‘wrecking crew’ which she calls demeaning and disrespectful of the work excellence achieved by her and her peers. She joins a host of other musicians that have clapped back at the Rock Hall when finally called upon for enshrinement.
Kaye was the bassist with the studio musicians AFM Local 47 Hollywood, the legendary group of session musicians that served as the backing band on countless pop hits throughout the ’60s and ’70s. Along with Thom Bell and Nicky Hopkins, Kaye was supposed to receive the Award For Musical Excellence, which recognizes important supporting musicians. But in a new Facebook post, she says not only is she not going to the ceremony, she’s declining induction into the Rock Hall because it doesn’t not reflect the spirit of teamwork that went into her career as a session musician.
“People have been asking: NO I won’t be there……. I am declining the rrhof awards show (and denny tedesco process)…..turning it down because it wasn’t something that reflects the work that Studio Musicians do and did in the golden era of the 1960s Recording Hits…….. you are always part of a TEAM, not a solo artist at all….there were always 350-400 Studio Musicians (AFM Local 47 Hollywood) working in the busy 1960s, and called that ONLY ….since 1930s, I was never a ‘wrecker’ at all….that’s a terrible insulting name.
Just so you know, as a working Jazz musician (soloing jazz guitar work) in the 1950s working since 1949, I was accidentally asked to record records by producer Bumps Blackwell in 1957, got into recording good music, w/Sam Cooke, other artists and then accidentally placed on Fender Precision Bass mid 1963 when someone didn’t show…….I never played bass in my life but being an experienced recording guitarist, it was plain to see that 3 bass players hired to play “dum-de-dum” on record dates, wasn’t getting it…..it was easy for me to invent good bass lines…..as a Jazz musician, you invent every note you play……and they used a lot of Jazz musicians (and former big-band experienced musicians on all those rock and pop dates too)………..I refuse to be part of a process that is something else rather than what I believe in, for others’ benefit and not reflecting on the truth – we all enjoyed working with EACH OTHER……..Thank-You for understanding. Carol Kaye”
Kaye is far from the first musician to say no to the Rock Hall. Not counting the artists who simply didn’t attend the ceremony, the list of those who opted not to be enshrined in Cleveland includes the Sex Pistols, Axl Rose, and Dolly Parton (who later changed her mind).
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=713088864699953&set=a.438449545497221 KO jk
In April, Kaye was included in the Class of 2025 alongside The White Stripes, Bad Company, Chubby Checker, Joe Cocker, Cyndi Lauper, Soundgarden, OutKast, Salt N Pepa, Warren Zevon, Thom Bell, Nicky Hopkins, and Lenny Waronker.
People are generally very supportive of Carol because she has always been a tough cookie. She had to be to make it in a traditionally male dominated workplace like the musicians union for session players in the 60’s. She is well known to bristle against the term ‘wrecking crew’ which she calls demeaning and disrespectful of the work excellence achieved by her and her peers. She joins a host of other musicians that have clapped back at the Rock Hall when finally called upon for enshrinement.
Kaye was the bassist with the studio musicians AFM Local 47 Hollywood, the legendary group of session musicians that served as the backing band on countless pop hits throughout the ’60s and ’70s. Along with Thom Bell and Nicky Hopkins, Kaye was supposed to receive the Award For Musical Excellence, which recognizes important supporting musicians. But in a new Facebook post, she says not only is she not going to the ceremony, she’s declining induction into the Rock Hall because it doesn’t not reflect the spirit of teamwork that went into her career as a session musician.
“People have been asking: NO I won’t be there……. I am declining the rrhof awards show (and denny tedesco process)…..turning it down because it wasn’t something that reflects the work that Studio Musicians do and did in the golden era of the 1960s Recording Hits…….. you are always part of a TEAM, not a solo artist at all….there were always 350-400 Studio Musicians (AFM Local 47 Hollywood) working in the busy 1960s, and called that ONLY ….since 1930s, I was never a ‘wrecker’ at all….that’s a terrible insulting name.
Just so you know, as a working Jazz musician (soloing jazz guitar work) in the 1950s working since 1949, I was accidentally asked to record records by producer Bumps Blackwell in 1957, got into recording good music, w/Sam Cooke, other artists and then accidentally placed on Fender Precision Bass mid 1963 when someone didn’t show…….I never played bass in my life but being an experienced recording guitarist, it was plain to see that 3 bass players hired to play “dum-de-dum” on record dates, wasn’t getting it…..it was easy for me to invent good bass lines…..as a Jazz musician, you invent every note you play……and they used a lot of Jazz musicians (and former big-band experienced musicians on all those rock and pop dates too)………..I refuse to be part of a process that is something else rather than what I believe in, for others’ benefit and not reflecting on the truth – we all enjoyed working with EACH OTHER……..Thank-You for understanding. Carol Kaye”
Kaye is far from the first musician to say no to the Rock Hall. Not counting the artists who simply didn’t attend the ceremony, the list of those who opted not to be enshrined in Cleveland includes the Sex Pistols, Axl Rose, and Dolly Parton (who later changed her mind).
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=713088864699953&set=a.438449545497221 KO jk
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It's political. Anyone who doesn't think politics hasn't been part of rock'n'roll since the 1960s is either not an American or is just a dumbass MAGA moron.
Peter Townsend is a hypocrite since he was part of the '60's rock scene. He's also a Brit. Fuck him and his fellow Redcoats.
It’s politically weighted but not “opinion”. The facts Springsteen alleges are real.
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I have a lot of time for PeteTownsend, I remember once when he got a lot of stick for stating that hippies were pompous and hypocritical. He said apart from the music they contributed very little to society.
society.