Does anyone believe Hegseth will be truthful?

FastLane said:
No I don't think multiple agencies got together just to lie to me. I do think you are lying to me.
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He's lying to himself....
Jarod said:
I do not have enough information to make such an estimate.

My guess, a year or so depending on how much help they get from Russia to put it back together.
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If that's what you believe then please keep us posted... Although I'm a bit worried you could only listen to the briefing for 10 minutes.And then you gave up so i'm not really sure about your commitment to facts and details...
 
The whole incident smells. Trump said Iran told him before they launched a response to our sneak attack. That does not seem right. There are reports that Iran moved their fuel before the Pearl Harbor-type attack.
Trump caused the noise about the news when he did his usual hyperbole after the attack, exaggerating like crazy. Of course, the news checked what he said out. Hegseth went full Fox Gnus in today's talk.
 
TOP said:
He's lying to himself....
If that's what you believe then please keep us posted... Although I'm a bit worried you could only listen to the briefing for 10 minutes.And then you gave up so i'm not really sure about your commitment to facts and details...
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I quit when I realized that Hegseth started by pointing out that he would lie for the sake of what he believes is patriotism.
 
Jarod said:
I doubt they coordinated, but I bet they all have the same agenda, and its unpatriotic to say differently, remember?
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The UN and Iran aren't any friends of the US or Israel. They both agree with the US and Israel.

Did you not listen to General Cain talk about the DTRA officer that studied Fordow for 15 YEARS and helped develop GBU 57 . Its main purpose was to destroy Fordow. Cain said they dropped 100s of test shots and many full scale weapons against extremely realistic targets. The B2 bombers dropped 6 GBU 57 were dropped into the main air shaft.
 
FastLane said:
The UN and Iran aren't any friends of the US or Israel. They both agree with the US and Israel.

Did you not listen to General Cain talk about the DTRA officer that studied Fordow for 15 YEARS and helped develop GBU 57 . Its main purpose was to destroy Fordow. Cain said they dropped 100s of test shots and many full scale weapons against extremely realistic targets. The B2 bombers dropped 6 GBU 57 were dropped into the main air shaft.
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Those are good things, but the do not provide evidence that it was successful. I hope it was. I do not agree with the president saying it was totally obliterated without evidence. In fact there is evidence to show he is wrong, totally destroying any creditability he ever had.
 
Jarod said:
I quit when I realized that Hegseth started by pointing out that he would lie for the sake of what he believes is patriotism.
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What specifically did he say that upset you? Very cowardly and judgmental of you to give up by the way... There was obviously so much more to come.I believe it was almost forty five minutes long and very specific and informative...
 
TOP said:
What specifically did he say that upset you? Very cowardly and judgmental of you to give up by the way... There was obviously so much more to come.I believe it was almost forty five minutes long and very specific and informative...
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He said that its unpatriotic to suggest anything but complete success. Regardless of truth.
 
Jarod said:
Those are good things, but the do not provide evidence that it was successful. I hope it was. I do not agree with the president saying it was totally obliterated without evidence. In fact there is evidence to show he is wrong, totally destroying any creditability he ever had.
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:facepalm: They put 360,000 lbs of GBU 57s exactly on target 120,000 lbs went down the air shaft that led to the center of Fordow. The GBU 57s were specifically designed to destroy Fordow . The GBU 57 was specifically designed to destroy Fordows geology.
 
Jarod said:
He said that its unpatriotic to suggest anything but complete success. Regardless of truth.
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Well it is unpatriotic to suggest anything but complete success... I imagine if he mentioned truth.It was suggestions that other people had made ... For example the mention of "obliteration" and the lack of people wishing to accept that... The mission is planned and carried out was flawless...so... Go back and listen to the rest.... we'll be reading about it someday in American history textbooks
 
Jarod said:
Those are good things, but the do not provide evidence that it was successful. I hope it was. I do not agree with the president saying it was totally obliterated without evidence. In fact there is evidence to show he is wrong, totally destroying any creditability he ever had.
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Delivering 360,000 lbs of bombs that were specifically designed to obliterate the target, and tested multiple times, is evidence.
 
Jarod said:
Hegseth is about to give a briefing about the bombing and it’s success

Does anyone believe he will say anything other than that the nuclear sites were totally obliterated? Does he have any credibility?

These political appointees of TACO will only parrot the TACO line. How are we ever going to know the truth?
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So you are going to get hung up on the word obliterated? Your desire to denigrate the United States and President Trump is so great that you are going to get hung up on one word?

You will never credit them with anything so why would anyone take what you say seriously? You have been caught lying on this board more times than anyone can count
 
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