Question on so called "birth right citizenship"

Teflon Don

Teflon Don

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According to JPP marxists the 14th Amendment was written with the express intent on applying to any and all immigrants at the time of its passage. That is what they claim.

They believe that should Chiquita Gonzalez step across the boarder and squirt out a fetus, said fetus is automatically and without equivocation considered a US Citizen with all rights conferred immediately.

For the same of argument, let's presume that is indeed a fact (I do not agree) but let's presume it is.

What then happens to Chiquita? She surely isn't an automatic citizen by virtue of squirting out a fetus is she? Does that mean Chiquita gets deported back to where she came from and the fetus stays here? Who takes care of the fetus? What happens to the fetus?
 
Teflon Don said:
According to JPP marxists the 14th Amendment was written with the express intent on applying to any and all immigrants at the time of its passage. That is what they claim.

They believe that should Chiquita Gonzalez step across the boarder and squirt out a fetus, said fetus is automatically and without equivocation considered a US Citizen with all rights conferred immediately.

For the same of argument, let's presume that is indeed a fact (I do not agree) but let's presume it is.

What then happens to Chiquita? She surely isn't an automatic citizen by virtue of squirting out a fetus is she? Does that mean Chiquita gets deported back to where she came from and the fetus stays here? Who takes care of the fetus? What happens to the fetus?
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JPP Marxists and brainless Democrat progressive leftists can't read or comprehend the OBVIOUS.

There is no birthright citizenship in the Constitution no matter how many times they beat their tiny little insignificant fists on the table and cry.
 
Nordberg said:
I guess Melania should be taken to El Salvador.
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You should be locked in a padded cell. :palm:
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no, the authors of the 14th did not intend to codify a legal method for government powers to separate families

this is a perverse application of the original intent done for political expedience and anyone that is willing to be honest will admit it is so.
 
Teflon Don said:
According to JPP marxists the 14th Amendment was written with the express intent on applying to any and all immigrants at the time of its passage. That is what they claim.

They believe that should Chiquita Gonzalez step across the boarder and squirt out a fetus, said fetus is automatically and without equivocation considered a US Citizen with all rights conferred immediately.

For the same of argument, let's presume that is indeed a fact (I do not agree) but let's presume it is.

What then happens to Chiquita? She surely isn't an automatic citizen by virtue of squirting out a fetus is she? Does that mean Chiquita gets deported back to where she came from and the fetus stays here? Who takes care of the fetus? What happens to the fetus?
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The fetus is a person at that point, but her parents take her with them if they are deported. She remains a citizen.
 
Teflon Don said:
According to JPP marxists the 14th Amendment was written with the express intent on applying to any and all immigrants at the time of its passage. That is what they claim.

They believe that should Chiquita Gonzalez step across the boarder and squirt out a fetus, said fetus is automatically and without equivocation considered a US Citizen with all rights conferred immediately.

For the same of argument, let's presume that is indeed a fact (I do not agree) but let's presume it is.

What then happens to Chiquita? She surely isn't an automatic citizen by virtue of squirting out a fetus is she? Does that mean Chiquita gets deported back to where she came from and the fetus stays here? Who takes care of the fetus? What happens to the fetus?
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Wrong, shocker, the 14th Amendment wasn’t “written with the express intent on applying to all immigrants,” rather it was written to insure due process and equal protection under the law, specifically targeted to overturn the Dred Scott decision. Since then the Court has numerous times confirmed birthright citizenship beginning in 1898 establishing it as existing precedent law

As for the mother, I’d say yes she can be deported, and the kid would still have citizenship if it left with her

Got any more easy questions?
 
zymurgy said:
you are a mouth breather

this is about birthright citizenship - and she was not born here retardo

once again, you bring nothing to a debate but idiocy
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archives said:
Wrong, shocker, the 14th Amendment wasn’t “written with the express intent on applying to all immigrants,” rather it was written to insure due process and equal protection under the law, specifically targeted to overturn the Dred Scott decision. Since then the Court has numerous times confirmed birthright citizenship beginning in 1898 establishing it as existing precedent law

As for the mother, I’d say yes she can be deported, and the kid would still have citizenship if it left with her

Got any more easy questions?
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Why was Elk of Elk v Wilkins not an American citizen? Why weren't Native Americans American citizens prior to the Snyder Act. Why was the Snyder Act even needed. I will await your answers.
 
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FastLane said:
Why was Elk of Elk v Wilkins not an American citizen? Why weren't Native Americans American citizens prior to the Snyder Act. Why was the Snyder Act even needed. I will await your answers.
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Technically because he was born on a sovereign reservation considered outside of the U.S. jurisdiction, the kid born today claiming birthright citizenship would have to be born in the US, why is that difficult?
 
archives said:
Technically because he was born on a sovereign reservation considered outside of the U.S. jurisdiction, the kid born today claiming birthright citizenship would have to be born in the US, why is that difficult?
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Nope, Indians born on or off the reservation prior to 1923 were not considered to be American citizens. And why was the Snyder Act even needed?

This is what the majority opinion said:

The law upon the question before us has been well stated by Judge Deady in the District Court of the United States for the District of Oregon. In giving judgment against the plaintiff in a case resembling the case at bar, he said:

"Being born a member of 'an independent political community' -- the Chinook -- he was not born subject to the jurisdiction of the United States -- not born in its allegiance."
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Kids born of two Mexican parents are Mexican citizens they are born into the alliance of Mexico.
 
archives said:
Technically because he was born on a sovereign reservation considered outside of the U.S. jurisdiction, the kid born today claiming birthright citizenship would have to be born in the US, why is that difficult?
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you think the place of birth is the key point, but the court was clear that it was his membership (allegiance) and not the location of the birth.
 
Teflon Don said:
According to JPP marxists the 14th Amendment was written with the express intent on applying to any and all immigrants at the time of its passage. That is what they claim.

They believe that should Chiquita Gonzalez step across the boarder and squirt out a fetus, said fetus is automatically and without equivocation considered a US Citizen with all rights conferred immediately.

For the same of argument, let's presume that is indeed a fact (I do not agree) but let's presume it is.

What then happens to Chiquita? She surely isn't an automatic citizen by virtue of squirting out a fetus is she? Does that mean Chiquita gets deported back to where she came from and the fetus stays here? Who takes care of the fetus? What happens to the fetus?
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zymurgy said:
it is pretty obvious that foreigners that vacation here are not birthing Americans

same went for Native Americans

and the same should go for criminals
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One avenue that has gained prominence in recent years is medical tourism for childbirth in the United States.
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Yes, foreigners are coming to the US to have children with the expectation that the child will be a citizen and "anchor baby."
 
Children of Americans are not “anchor babies”

When you have to either lie, or show ignorance to make a point, the only point made is the one on top of your head
 
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