Why Science Hasn’t Solved Consciousness

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The difference between the enactive approach to cognition and consciousness and the reductive view of physicalism could not be more stark. The latter focuses on a physical object, in this case the brain, asking how the movements of atoms and molecules within it create a property called consciousness. This view assumes that a third-person objective view of the world is possible and that the brain’s job is to provide the best representation of this world.

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Hume said:
Really don't know what "singular processor" or "harmonious parallel system" means.
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From what I've read about consciousness human brains do seem to have a central module which coordinates the various incoming streams of input data (both raw and processed by the brain) and forms it into a comprehensible sense of consciousness.

I think (and this is mainly a guess) that what this comic is proposing is that if the brain were to process incoming data more like a simple computer with either parallel processing or just processing one channel of data at a time our need for a central module and our experience of consciousness wouldn't be even remotely like what we humans experience.

The stuff that the brain does automatically is positively a mind-fuck. We have one hemisphere that creates the justification for why actions took place which the brain did automatically giving us the impression of "free will". Experiments have even been run to show this effect. It's weird as fuck.
 
gmark77 said:
From what I've read about consciousness human brains do seem to have a central module which coordinates the various incoming streams of input data (both raw and processed by the brain) and forms it into a comprehensible sense of consciousness.

I think (and this is mainly a guess) that what this comic is proposing is that if the brain were to process incoming data more like a simple computer with either parallel processing or just processing one channel of data at a time our need for a central module and our experience of consciousness wouldn't be even remotely like what we humans experience.

The stuff that the brain does automatically is positively a mind-fuck. We have one hemisphere that creates the justification for why actions took place which the brain did automatically giving us the impression of "free will". Experiments have even been run to show this effect. It's weird as fuck.
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Consciousness is just thinking. The invention of the 'self' distracts people from understand how the mind works.
Artificial intelligence is correct to say that the mind is just an information processing machine.
 
gmark77 said:
From what I've read about consciousness human brains do seem to have a central module which coordinates the various incoming streams of input data (both raw and processed by the brain) and forms it into a comprehensible sense of consciousness.

I think (and this is mainly a guess) that what this comic is proposing is that if the brain were to process incoming data more like a simple computer with either parallel processing or just processing one channel of data at a time our need for a central module and our experience of consciousness wouldn't be even remotely like what we humans experience.

The stuff that the brain does automatically is positively a mind-fuck. We have one hemisphere that creates the justification for why actions took place which the brain did automatically giving us the impression of "free will". Experiments have even been run to show this effect. It's weird as fuck.
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JPP big government spending (israel first) MIGA are on the same side as Guno when it comes to wiping Muslims off the face of the earth. Consciousness shows up in class warfare, the world will not allow the US and the jew colony to get away with genocide.
 
goat said:
JPP big government spending (israel first) MIGA are on the same side as Guno when it comes to wiping Muslims off the face of the earth. Consciousness shows up in class warfare, the world will not allow the US and the jew colony to get away with genocide.
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^^why is this asshole troll allowed on the forum
 
goat said:
JPP big government spending (israel first) MIGA are on the same side as Guno when it comes to wiping Muslims off the face of the earth. Consciousness shows up in class warfare, the world will not allow the US and the jew colony to get away with genocide.
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Yes we all see your post. You are very impressive and important. Now please go somewhere else and spew your nonsense. Thanks in advance.
 
Hume said:

A New Vision Of Nature​

The difference between the enactive approach to cognition and consciousness and the reductive view of physicalism could not be more stark. The latter focuses on a physical object, in this case the brain, asking how the movements of atoms and molecules within it create a property called consciousness. This view assumes that a third-person objective view of the world is possible and that the brain’s job is to provide the best representation of this world.

www.noemamag.com

Why Science Hasn’t Solved Consciousness (Yet) | NOEMA

To understand life, we must stop treating organisms like machines and minds like code.
www.noemamag.com www.noemamag.com
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Anyone who expects science to explain what consciousness is really does not understand the limitations of science, or what actually counts as an 'explanation'.

We still don't have an explanation for what gravity is, 500 years after Isacc Newton. Science is a study of process. What we have is a theory that predicts how matter and energy will bend space and time. But we do not, and probably never will, have an incontrovertible explanation for why matter and energy warp space and time.
 
Cypress said:
Anyone who expects science to explain what consciousness is really does not understand the limitations of science, or what actually counts as an 'explanation'.

We still don't have an explanation for what gravity is, 500 years after Isacc Newton. Science is a study of process. What we have is a theory that predicts how matter and energy will bend space and time. But we do not, and probably never will, have an incontrovertible explanation for why matter and energy warp space and time.
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Mind and Spirit are two different things! Example your Spirit isn't effected by lust!
Your physical mind is very much effected by wants of the flesh!
 
Cypress said:
Anyone who expects science to explain what consciousness is really does not understand the limitations of science,
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What are the "limitations" of science in this area? I assume you are no fan of anyone digging into neurobiology?

Because there are a goodly amount of scientists working on this very thing as we speak. Do those scientists not understand that they are ultimately doomed to failure? Shouldn't someone alert them?

Cypress said:
We still don't have an explanation for what gravity is, 500 years after Isacc Newton.
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So by your reasoning we can't even understand consciousness because gravity has proven to be difficult to explain?

Cypress said:
Science is a study of process.
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That is not all it is.

Cypress said:
What we have is a theory that predicts how matter and energy will bend space and time. But we do not, and probably never will, have an incontrovertible explanation for why matter and energy warp space and time.
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Why would you suggest that? That's like someone in 1969 saying that the neutrino will never be found just because it hadn't been found yet.
 
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