The Epstein fallout finally reveals Trump’s Achilles heel

Why hasn't the Epstein list been released?

  • There is no Epstein list. Trump and his DOJ/FBI lackies lied

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Trump is protecting powerful people who are on the list

    Votes: 4 80.0%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 1 20.0%

  • Total voters
    5

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Trump is epitomizing the maxim about making one's own bed and lying in it...with an emphasis on lying. His flip-flop after years of screaming about the Epstein client list is now dividing the MAGA movement.

The Epstein fallout finally reveals Trump’s Achilles heel​

MAGA conspiracy theorists had to engage in Simone Biles-level mental gymnastics over the years as they have seen countless claims by Donald Trump be debunked or turned into nothingburgers.

It turns out Barack Obama was an American citizen the whole time. Osama Bin Laden was actually killed by Navy SEALs. John F. Kennedy Jr. is not coming back. The “Pizzagate” restaurant was really just a place that sold pizza. And of course, the election of 2020 was not stolen.

These conspiracy-lovers never faltered in their support for the president, even as they continually had to explain why the claims he made kept turning out to be false. Because their gymnastics mostly lead to the ultimate conspiracy: the deep state....

...Even during his first term, as his promises to lock up Hillary Clinton went broken, there was an excuse. The deep state was working against him. He needed total control of the government to finally dismantle the vast shadow government that thwarted his plans in the first term.

People believed him and supported the Department of Government Efficiency, dubious federal appointments, the dismantling of government agencies and purges on non-loyalists as proof that the deep state would finally be destroyed.

Then came the current Jeffrey Epstein
public relations nightmare. Now, Trump finds himself in a very unusual position. The very case he used to illustrate the scope of the deep state is now revealing to his most ardent supporters that the emperor is naked — and perhaps they’ll even conclude that he might even be on this alleged Epstein list himself.
 
Trump's rant putting the blame of the Epstein list on the Democrats

What’s going on with my “boys” and, in some cases, “gals?” They’re all going after Attorney General Pam Bondi, who is doing a FANTASTIC JOB! We’re on one Team, MAGA, and I don’t like what’s happening. We have a PERFECT Administration, THE TALK OF THE WORLD, and “selfish people” are trying to hurt it, all over a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein. For years, it’s Epstein, over and over again. Why are we giving publicity to Files written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the Losers and Criminals of the Biden Administration, who conned the World with the Russia, Russia, Russia Hoax, 51 “Intelligence” Agents, “THE LAPTOP FROM HELL,” and more? They created the Epstein Files, just like they created the FAKE Hillary Clinton/Christopher Steele Dossier that they used on me, and now my so-called “friends” are playing right into their hands. Why didn’t these Radical Left Lunatics release the Epstein Files? If there was ANYTHING in there that could have hurt the MAGA Movement, why didn’t they use it? They haven’t even given up on the John F. Kennedy or Martin Luther King, Jr. Files. No matter how much success we have had, securing the Border, deporting Criminals, fixing the Economy, Energy Dominance, a Safer World where Iran will not have Nuclear Weapons, it’s never enough for some people. We are about to achieve more in 6 months than any other Administration has achieved in over 100 years, and we have so much more to do. We are saving our Country and, MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, which will continue to be our complete PRIORITY. The Left is imploding! Kash Patel, and the FBI, must be focused on investigating Voter Fraud, Political Corruption, ActBlue, The Rigged and Stolen Election of 2020, and arresting Thugs and Criminals, instead of spending month after month looking at nothing but the same old, Radical Left inspired Documents on Jeffrey Epstein. LET PAM BONDI DO HER JOB — SHE’S GREAT! The 2020 Election was Rigged and Stolen, and they tried to do the same thing in 2024 — That’s what she is looking into as AG, and much more. One year ago our Country was DEAD, now it’s the “HOTTEST” Country anywhere in the World. Let’s keep it that way, and not waste Time and Energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Jul 12, 2025, 4:21 PM
 
Why wasn't this so-called epstein list revealed while biden was in office? Might it have been because bill clinton was on the list?
Pedo Don and Slick Willie were fuck buddies back in the day so you're right. Too many powerful Republicans and Democrats on that list to release it even during Trump's first term.

Why do you think Pedo Don lied about it?
 
What lie?
You don't know that Trump has been claiming there was a list and that Pam had it? Wow. Unsurprising, but still wow.



In August 2019, after Epstein's death, Trump retweeted a post that alleged Bill Clinton was connected to Epstein's death.

When asked about his retweet in an interview, Trump said "what we're saying is we want an investigation. I want a full investigation, and that's what I absolutely am demanding. That's what our attorney general -- our great attorney general -- is doing." The attorney general at the time was Bill Barr.
 
You don't know that Trump has been claiming there was a list and that Pam had it? Wow. Unsurprising, but still wow.



In August 2019, after Epstein's death, Trump retweeted a post that alleged Bill Clinton was connected to Epstein's death.

When asked about his retweet in an interview, Trump said "what we're saying is we want an investigation. I want a full investigation, and that's what I absolutely am demanding. That's what our attorney general -- our great attorney general -- is doing." The attorney general at the time was Bill Barr.


No one gives a shit about the epstein list. Not now and not during the biden term. Focus on how America is the hottest nation on earth
and getting hotter every day of Trump's 2nd term as potus. And by 'hotter' I'm not referring to you whacked out leftists hysteria over
how the world is going to end via climate change. It's so damn hot up here in New England that I will be taking a nice swim today up
at Hampton beach N.H. Our economy is booming in almost every way, and we have some 16 trillion dollars of new industrial companies
coming into the U.S.
 
No one gives a shit about the epstein list. Not now and not during the biden term. Focus on how America is the hottest nation on earth
and getting hotter every day of Trump's 2nd term as potus. And by 'hotter' I'm not referring to you whacked out leftists hysteria over
how the world is going to end via climate change. It's so damn hot up here in New England that I will be taking a nice swim today up
at Hampton beach N.H. Our economy is booming in almost every way, and we have some 16 trillion dollars of new industrial companies
coming into the U.S.
Care to bet on that? Elon, Joe Rogan and several in the MAGA Congress care.

The fact you are in denial about this tells me you are either lying or simply "slow". I believe it's the latter.
 
Trump is epitomizing the maxim about making one's own bed and lying in it...with an emphasis on lying. His flip-flop after years of screaming about the Epstein client list is now dividing the MAGA movement.

The Epstein fallout finally reveals Trump’s Achilles heel​

MAGA conspiracy theorists had to engage in Simone Biles-level mental gymnastics over the years as they have seen countless claims by Donald Trump be debunked or turned into nothingburgers.

It turns out Barack Obama was an American citizen the whole time. Osama Bin Laden was actually killed by Navy SEALs. John F. Kennedy Jr. is not coming back. The “Pizzagate” restaurant was really just a place that sold pizza. And of course, the election of 2020 was not stolen.

These conspiracy-lovers never faltered in their support for the president, even as they continually had to explain why the claims he made kept turning out to be false. Because their gymnastics mostly lead to the ultimate conspiracy: the deep state....

...Even during his first term, as his promises to lock up Hillary Clinton went broken, there was an excuse. The deep state was working against him. He needed total control of the government to finally dismantle the vast shadow government that thwarted his plans in the first term.

People believed him and supported the Department of Government Efficiency, dubious federal appointments, the dismantling of government agencies and purges on non-loyalists as proof that the deep state would finally be destroyed.

Then came the current Jeffrey Epstein
public relations nightmare. Now, Trump finds himself in a very unusual position. The very case he used to illustrate the scope of the deep state is now revealing to his most ardent supporters that the emperor is naked — and perhaps they’ll even conclude that he might even be on this alleged Epstein list himself.

Great opinion piece. Thanks!
 
Trump's rant putting the blame of the Epstein list on the Democrats

What’s going on with my “boys” and, in some cases, “gals?” They’re all going after Attorney General Pam Bondi, who is doing a FANTASTIC JOB! We’re on one Team, MAGA, and I don’t like what’s happening. We have a PERFECT Administration, THE TALK OF THE WORLD, and “selfish people” are trying to hurt it, all over a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein. For years, it’s Epstein, over and over again. Why are we giving publicity to Files written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the Losers and Criminals of the Biden Administration, who conned the World with the Russia, Russia, Russia Hoax, 51 “Intelligence” Agents, “THE LAPTOP FROM HELL,” and more? They created the Epstein Files, just like they created the FAKE Hillary Clinton/Christopher Steele Dossier that they used on me, and now my so-called “friends” are playing right into their hands. Why didn’t these Radical Left Lunatics release the Epstein Files? If there was ANYTHING in there that could have hurt the MAGA Movement, why didn’t they use it? They haven’t even given up on the John F. Kennedy or Martin Luther King, Jr. Files. No matter how much success we have had, securing the Border, deporting Criminals, fixing the Economy, Energy Dominance, a Safer World where Iran will not have Nuclear Weapons, it’s never enough for some people. We are about to achieve more in 6 months than any other Administration has achieved in over 100 years, and we have so much more to do. We are saving our Country and, MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, which will continue to be our complete PRIORITY. The Left is imploding! Kash Patel, and the FBI, must be focused on investigating Voter Fraud, Political Corruption, ActBlue, The Rigged and Stolen Election of 2020, and arresting Thugs and Criminals, instead of spending month after month looking at nothing but the same old, Radical Left inspired Documents on Jeffrey Epstein. LET PAM BONDI DO HER JOB — SHE’S GREAT! The 2020 Election was Rigged and Stolen, and they tried to do the same thing in 2024 — That’s what she is looking into as AG, and much more. One year ago our Country was DEAD, now it’s the “HOTTEST” Country anywhere in the World. Let’s keep it that way, and not waste Time and Energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Jul 12, 2025, 4:21 PM
He's almost writing book length truth social tweets now.

Somebody who had to bluster and tap dance this much is hiding something.
 
What happened to Simone? Thoughts and prayers for a return to sanity for our hometown hero...

WTF. You really can't read or comprehend, can you?

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Somebody who had to bluster and tap dance this much is hiding something.
Agreed. It's an emotional overreaction which indicates fear. Probably fear of a secret being revealed.

What's really odd is that Trump has hyped this for years and now not only does a complete 180 but is pissed because his own supporters won't drop the issue.
 
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