Mark Levin on Tariffs and courts.

[Guno צְבִי]

the civil war was a little bit about slavery.

You never heard of the cornerstone speech

In his March 21, 1861, Cornerstone Speech, Confederate Vice President Alexander H. Stephens presents what he believes are the reasons for what he termed was a "revolution." This revolution resulted in the American Civil War. Stephens's speech is remembered by many for its defense of slavery, its outlining of the perceived differences between the North and the South, and the racial rhetoric used to show the inferiority of African Americans. A few weeks after the speech, on April 12, 1861, Confederate forces fired on Fort Sumter in Charleston Harbor, initiating the American Civil War.
"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth."

Cornerstone Speech

In his March 21, 1861, Cornerstone Speech, Confederate Vice President Alexander H. Stephens presents what he believes are the reasons for what he termed was...

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[Sammy Jankis]

edwin is going all in on project 1619 stuff.

You never heard of the cornerstone speech

In his March 21, 1861, Cornerstone Speech, Confederate Vice President Alexander H. Stephens presents what he believes are the reasons for what he termed was a "revolution." This revolution resulted in the American Civil War. Stephens's speech is remembered by many for its defense of slavery, its outlining of the perceived differences between the North and the South, and the racial rhetoric used to show the inferiority of African Americans. A few weeks after the speech, on April 12, 1861, Confederate forces fired on Fort Sumter in Charleston Harbor, initiating the American Civil War.
"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth."

Cornerstone Speech

In his March 21, 1861, Cornerstone Speech, Confederate Vice President Alexander H. Stephens presents what he believes are the reasons for what he termed was...

www.battlefields.org

it was a little bit about slavery.

 

[EdwinA]

and some were Christians opposing slavery on moral grounds.

Not many. The largest anti-slavery organization in the country only numbered a few thousand in the entire country.

 

[EdwinA]

it was a little bit.

tariffs also made the nation and peole rich.

not just the corporations.

no, they brought in waves of immigrants and let them starve when the business cycle slowed down; it was seasonal, and the poor had to alternate between farm labor in the growing seasons and factory work in the off season; a large percentage were left unemployed for months at a time. Employers didn't care, since new waves would arrive every year. The 'middle class' barely reached 5 to 10 percent at most.

 

[EdwinA]

edwin is going all in on project 1619 stuff.

it was a little bit about slavery.

A very little bit.

AI Overview

Before the Civil War, the abolitionist movement in the United States, while influential, did not have widespread popular support. Estimates suggest that only a small percentage of the population, perhaps 2-3% in the North, were active abolitionists.

 

[EdwinA]

"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man;

A belief held by the majority of abolitionists as well. Sucks that there is so much history that still hasn't been censored by left and right wing ideologues yet. There isn't much of a difference between them when it comes to lying and abusing the proles.

 

[EdwinA]

the death of the democrat party has got Edwin all in a tizzy trying to besmirch the republicans party.

he's going way back.

it's true, parties are not the point.

but lincolns realpolitik made him side with the good people this time.

and that's a good thing.

and the good actually mattered.

lol utter rubbish. He mass murdered whites and blacks for his beloved bankers and railroad swindlers and big corporations. Just admit you love him for that.

 

[EdwinA]

everythings a morality play.

Or in your case an amorality play built on a fictional history. Leftists and rightists both share that propaganda style.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

no, they brought in waves of immigrants and let them starve when the business cycle slowed down; it was seasonal, and the poor had to alternate between farm labor in the growing seasons and factory work in the off season; a large percentage were left unemployed for months at a time. Employers didn't care, since new waves would arrive every year. The 'middle class' barely reached 5 to 10 percent at most.

but the nation did dominate world production, and as a whole was richerf, though it wasn't distributed well.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Or in your case an amorality play built on a fictional history. Leftists and rightists both share that propaganda style.

tariffs allowed the the us to eventually dominate world production.

This is a fact.

yes the spoils could have been distributed better.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

lol utter rubbish. He mass murdered whites and blacks for his beloved bankers and railroad swindlers and big corporations. Just admit you love him for that.

yet his realpolitik led him to side with good on the case of antislavery.


we've been over all of this.

you are on a CRT quest to be dumb.

you won.

 

[EdwinA]

yet his realpolitik led him to side with good on the case of antislavery.


we've been over all of this.

you are on a CRT quest to be dumb.

you won.

lol he did no such thing. In fact he re-enslaved them under his military governors, and forced many of them into 'contraband camps' where they starved to death. You of course love that about him.

 

[EdwinA]

tariffs allowed the the us to eventually dominate world production.

This is a fact.

yes the spoils could have been distributed better.

And of course the tariffs that were implemented after the war were not Lincoln's, as already pointed out, but like all ideologues simple math eluded you in your quest to peddle fake history. This is a fact.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

And of course the tariffs that were implemented after the war were not Lincoln's, as already pointed out, but like all ideologues simple math eluded you in your quest to peddle fake history. This is a fact.

so what.

lincoln is your obsession in the tariff thread.

you brought it up about Lincoln and tariffs.

what's the relevance at all?

 

[EdwinA]

so what.

lincoln is your obsession in the tariff thread.

you brought it up about Lincoln and tariffs.

what's the relevance at all?

Yes, and that triggered you, since propagandists and ideologues can't stand it when real history doesn't follow their fantasy narratives. The 'obsession' is all yours. Get Help.

 

[Truth Detector]

Are you afraid if you don't suck up to the GOP shills here they will change the secret handshake and lock you out of the treehouse? lol

Just when I believe you can't get dumber, you prove me wrong again.

 

[Truth Detector]

Oh my, I triggered a GOP shill. Good.

You appear to be the one triggered with severe TDS halfwit.

 

[Truth Detector]

That is one of the dumbest positions I have ever heard. Of course the people who have to pay a tax are allowed to challenge the tax. If they do not pay the tax, they will go to prison, are you arguing that they cannot challenge being sent to prison?

Obviously, the importers have a legal standing to challenge the law, because they have to pay the taxes.

I don't think you have the slightest clue of what you are bloviating so ignorantly about.

The Framers of the Constitution definitely gave the right to redress in the courts when taxed.

You're bloviating brainless strawmen snowflake.

The Constitution clearly says that duties(another name for tariffs) are under the sole authority of the Congress. It goes on to say Congress has sole authority over trade, and taxes in general.

....and Congress delegated that authority to the Executive you brainless dumbass.

The president has to consult with Senate, and get a two thirds support from the Senate over treaties. But, treaties would not generally raise tariffs. You end a war with a peace treaty, but it would be odd to start a war with a war treaty. When the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, the USA unilaterally responded by declaring war. We did not negotiate with the Japanese to declare a war treaty. The same is true with a trade war.

More brainless bloviating. I doubt that you even know what you are trying to say.

So all foreign countries have to do is not agree, and your whole argument falls apart?

I have no idea what you are ranting about dumbass.

So when the Constitution says "foreign nations", you think it was just a joke?

Another of your brainless strawmen. I don't think you can rant without lying, saying patently stupid shit and constructing strawmen.

Fort Sumter did not blockade the port, so you have no point.

Going full retard now.

That would be a bit extreme.

Your lies are extreme halfwit.

 

[Truth Detector]

Never said it wasn't, it just wasn't a cause of the war; Lincoln and his American System corporate welfare agenda was.

 

[EdwinA]

You appear to be the one triggered with severe TDS halfwit.

Yes, you're a moron, like most of your other socks. lol