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Could A Good God Permit So Much Suffering?
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MAGA
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Human suffering entered the world due to the effects of original sin. God does not cause the suffering. He simply permits it to happen in our lives. To understand suffering, we must first understand some basic principles about God.
God is all-knowing. He is aware of every pain we feel and every tear we shed. He can see our entire life on earth as well as our eternal destiny. God is all-loving. He loves us more than we love ourselves and would not permit something to happen to us that would keep us from our ultimate good, which is God himself. God is all-powerful. He can bring good out of evil.
Bearing these facts in mind, sometimes God permits suffering to keep us from a greater suffering later or to preserve us for a greater good. For example, you might be passed over for a seemingly great job opportunity, only to get a better one later. Or God may know a danger lurking in the job environment that could bring you physical or spiritual harm. Trusting in God helps us deal with this kind of suffering.
Sometimes God permits us to suffer the consequences of our behavior. If we are sexually promiscuous, we might suffer disease, broken relationships, and other problems caused by our behavior. This suffering brings about good when we change our lives and abide by God’s laws.
Further, God permits us to lose things that we have come to worship above him. For example, someone who has made money his god may suffer the shame and hardship of bankruptcy. This suffering can bring about a total dependence on God and submission to his will.
God may allow suffering that has no apparent reason—a child dies, we are injured in a car accident, or a natural disaster strikes. These situations are the most difficult to understand. Yet though we do not see the reason for such suffering we know that there is one, even if it is not apparent from our limited perspective.
We are particularly vulnerable and weak when we suffer because we recognize that we are not in control. Yet it is precisely at this moment that we can become our strongest, if we learn to depend on God. Christ died to save us from the loss of heaven. He did not die to save us from suffering in this world.
Yet suffering need never be in vain. St. Paul says, “Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I complete what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions for the sake of the body, that is the church . . . ” (Col 1:24). We can join our suffering with Christ’s for the sake of others. In this way suffering becomes redemptive. It is not suffering but our response to it that makes it so.
God is all-knowing. He is aware of every pain we feel and every tear we shed. He can see our entire life on earth as well as our eternal destiny. God is all-loving. He loves us more than we love ourselves and would not permit something to happen to us that would keep us from our ultimate good, which is God himself. God is all-powerful. He can bring good out of evil.
Bearing these facts in mind, sometimes God permits suffering to keep us from a greater suffering later or to preserve us for a greater good. For example, you might be passed over for a seemingly great job opportunity, only to get a better one later. Or God may know a danger lurking in the job environment that could bring you physical or spiritual harm. Trusting in God helps us deal with this kind of suffering.
Sometimes God permits us to suffer the consequences of our behavior. If we are sexually promiscuous, we might suffer disease, broken relationships, and other problems caused by our behavior. This suffering brings about good when we change our lives and abide by God’s laws.
Further, God permits us to lose things that we have come to worship above him. For example, someone who has made money his god may suffer the shame and hardship of bankruptcy. This suffering can bring about a total dependence on God and submission to his will.
God may allow suffering that has no apparent reason—a child dies, we are injured in a car accident, or a natural disaster strikes. These situations are the most difficult to understand. Yet though we do not see the reason for such suffering we know that there is one, even if it is not apparent from our limited perspective.
We are particularly vulnerable and weak when we suffer because we recognize that we are not in control. Yet it is precisely at this moment that we can become our strongest, if we learn to depend on God. Christ died to save us from the loss of heaven. He did not die to save us from suffering in this world.
Yet suffering need never be in vain. St. Paul says, “Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I complete what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions for the sake of the body, that is the church . . . ” (Col 1:24). We can join our suffering with Christ’s for the sake of others. In this way suffering becomes redemptive. It is not suffering but our response to it that makes it so.
Did you write this yourself or did your forget to post your source?
MAGA
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Its too bad that you are not as vigilant when it comes to enforcing the 2-way ignore that your boy Dutch Uncle constantly violates, as you are about trying to tear down a beautiful post. Dutch Uncle loves your attack by the way. That shows the value of your petty response.
Here you go. Its to bad that you won't learn anything from it.
How can I make emotional sense out of suffering when it happens?
God does not cause the suffering. He simply permits it. To understand suffering, we must first understand some basic principles about God.
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I don’t believe it was a two way forced ignore.Its too bad that you are not as vigilant when it comes to enforcing the 2-way ignore that your boy Dutch Uncle constantly violates, as you are about trying to tear down a beautiful post. Dutch Uncle loves your attack by the way. That shows the value of your petty response.
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Here you go. Its to bad that you won't learn anything from it.
How can I make emotional sense out of suffering when it happens?
God does not cause the suffering. He simply permits it. To understand suffering, we must first understand some basic principles about God.www.catholic.com
The forum rules state you must post your source, thank you for doing so.
I learned the Catholic dogma the 40 years I was a practicing Catholic, so your ASSumptions are incorrect.Its too bad that you are not as vigilant when it comes to enforcing the 2-way ignore that your boy Dutch Uncle constantly violates, as you are about trying to tear down a beautiful post. Dutch Uncle loves your attack by the way. That shows the value of your petty response.
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Here you go. Its to bad that you won't learn anything from it.
How can I make emotional sense out of suffering when it happens?
God does not cause the suffering. He simply permits it. To understand suffering, we must first understand some basic principles about God.
MAGA
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Is that right. Thats not what I was told. I knew Damocles was a liar. You assholes are real pieces of work, you know that?
MAGA
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I have never killed a baby and it’s none of my business what you do in your private sex life.
Projection
MAGA
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No, you people are just pathological liars. Thats all.
More projection.
I stand corrected, I went and looked and the ignore is indeed two way. My error. I will try to find out why Dutch can see your posts.
Damo did not lie to you, it was my mistake.
Again, I apologize.
ZenMode
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.... he would, however, allow the serpent to trick Eve into making Adam eat the apple, right?
The serpent he created, allowed to exist and allowed to trick Adam and Eve.
Weird.
I never stated such a thing.
He says a lot of contradictory things.
go kill yourself
Yes, Job is one of the most fucked up descriptions of God I ever saw. God fucks with Job just for fun. Sick.
Some day I will teach you how to stay on topic.