Two States for two Peoples

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Two States for two Peoples





In 1947, the United Nations General Assembly decided to create two states in the mandated territory of Palestine, administered by Great Britain, one Jewish and one Arab, whose borders are shown on the map.

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On May 14, 1948, the Jewish state was proclaimed, and the goal of the founder of Zionism, Theodor Herzl, who wrote in 1896 that the "Jewish question" could only be solved through the creation of a Jewish state, was achieved. At the heart of his "Jewish question" is the postulate: "The nations among which Jews live are all covertly or openly anti-Semitic."
In this regard, Herzl believed that the Jews should be given the opportunity to establish a nation-state somewhere. As a territory for the Jewish state, Herzl proposed Cyprus or the Sinai Peninsula. The search for a place for a national Jewish state continued for many years. Various options have been put forward: in Poland, in the Russian Empire in the Pale of Settlement, in British Guinea, in Argentina, in Australia on the island of Tasmania, and even in America in Alaska. It should be noted that Crimea was also considered in this regard. For example, on February 15, 1944, the leaders of the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee, Mikhoels, Fefer, and Epstein, wrote a letter to Stalin on the subject of creating a Jewish Autonomous Republic in the Crimea. It is the republics, not the regions. It may well be that this was one of the reasons for the hasty deportation of the Crimean Tatars as the indigenous population of the Crimea on May 18-20, 1944. Stalin hesitated for a long time with an answer, and in the end, when he no longer needed the help of American Jews, he shot the entire anti-fascist committee in its entirety. (1) It should be noted that Stalin put a lot of effort into the establishment of Israel, and rather in spite of Great Britain, and also in the hope that the Jewish state would become socialist, given Ben Gurion's commitment to socialism.

Be that as it may, but fate decreed the best. The European Holocaust convinced the Jews of the world to be faithful to the ideology of Zionism, to the creation of a state for the Jews. The Jewish state was, I would say, re-established 3,300 years later on the territory where King Solomon's kingdom was located. However, strictly according to historical facts, the Jews have more rights to Egypt than the Arabs living in it, since the Jews as a people came out of Egypt when there were no Arabs there at all. (2) The determination of the Jewish people was rewarded, but for the Arabs who had lived in Palestine since 632, the date of the establishment of the Arab Caliphate, the event was a complete surprise and had a tragic consequence:- about 5 million Palestinian refugees scattered in the surrounding countries and the loss of territory:


https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/alikbahshi/18016210/129334/129334_600.jpgBecause of Israel's settlement activities, there is virtually nothing left of the territory intended for the Arab state. The Palestinian population was under apartheid, behind a concrete wall and a barbed-wire fence, and was a cheap labour force for the Israeli economy.

https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/alikbahshi/18016210/129766/129766_600.jpg


There is a constant quiet seizure of territory for the Jewish state, which makes the Arabs of Palestine angry.In spite of the totally disparate values of both casualties and means of warfare, the state of war is expressed in the endless terrorist attacks and attacks against Israel.

The Middle East Arab-Israeli conflict, which has claimed thousands of lives on both sides, is celebrating, so to speak, its 75th anniversary, with no end in sight. This is not to say that efforts were not made to put an end to the bloody confrontation. In 1991, the Madrid Peace Conference was held under the auspices of the United States, which began the so-called peace process (3), which by 1994 was marked by the "Oslo Accords" between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization, which caused a sharp rejection of Israel by the right-wing camp. As a result, the assassination of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin. (4)

https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/alikbahshi/18016210/129809/129809_600.jpg


After the political assassination of Yitzhak Rabin, the process of peace negotiations, which had begun with such difficulty, thanks primarily to the policy of the White House, came to an impasse, from which the Palestinians found a way out in war. In war, which has become an attribute, or rather a way of life, and of death, so to speak, because violent premature death is a common occurrence in the life of both the autonomy and Israel. The threat of death does not stop the Arabs of Gaza from launching Qassama missiles towards nearby Israeli cities. Unable to prevent the shelling, the Israeli army acts on the principle of revenge in response to terrorist attacks and rocket attacks, which, in principle, as reality shows, does not change the situation.
In 2002, Saudi Arabia came up with a peace initiative:

– all Arab countries recognize the State of Israel, – Israel liberates the occupied territories, does not prevent the return of Palestinian refugees,
East Jerusalem receives the status of the capital of Palestine.

Even the leader of the Israeli right, former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, acknowledged the occupation.

Israel's rejection of the Saudi Peace Initiative, which is a reflection of the two-State solution, has led to the radicalization of the Palestinian community and the rise to power of Hamas, whose leaders see in the endless peace process only the continuation of the occupation and apartheid against their people, because the conditions created by Israel in the occupied territory of a failed state for the Arabs of Palestine are anything other than reservations. You can't name it. The population of the Territories is beginning to lose hope in the reality of the changes promised by the treaty. It turns out, as the Palestinians imagine, that the leaders of Hamas are right when they call for a boycott of all dialogue and assert that only the destruction of Israel as a state will solve the Palestinian problem.

In my opinion, the UN made its main mistake in 1947 by creating two states on the territory of Palestine for two peoples - a Jewish and an Arab state, without first ensuring their security by the introduction of UN troops on the border of partition. Taking into account that the Ashkenazi Jews, who represented the people of Israel at that time, and the Arabs are so different in terms of mentality, culture, faith, and level of civilization, it was possible to foresee their confrontation, which resulted in an endless bloody war.
The UN must correct its mistake, otherwise there will be no peace in the Middle East. (5)

1. Whose Crimea. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/4030.html
2. Peace process. http://proza.ru/2010/12/16/592
3. Facts, people's mentality and historical justice. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/13335.html
4. On the question of who killed Rabin. Israel, "Our Country" newspaper, 04.12.96. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/94912.html
5. Israel, and the plain truth. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/6466.html

27.10.2023
 


Alik Bahshi



Two States for two Peoples





In 1947, the United Nations General Assembly decided to create two states in the mandated territory of Palestine, administered by Great Britain, one Jewish and one Arab, whose borders are shown on the map.

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On May 14, 1948, the Jewish state was proclaimed, and the goal of the founder of Zionism, Theodor Herzl, who wrote in 1896 that the "Jewish question" could only be solved through the creation of a Jewish state, was achieved. At the heart of his "Jewish question" is the postulate: "The nations among which Jews live are all covertly or openly anti-Semitic."
In this regard, Herzl believed that the Jews should be given the opportunity to establish a nation-state somewhere. As a territory for the Jewish state, Herzl proposed Cyprus or the Sinai Peninsula. The search for a place for a national Jewish state continued for many years. Various options have been put forward: in Poland, in the Russian Empire in the Pale of Settlement, in British Guinea, in Argentina, in Australia on the island of Tasmania, and even in America in Alaska. It should be noted that Crimea was also considered in this regard. For example, on February 15, 1944, the leaders of the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee, Mikhoels, Fefer, and Epstein, wrote a letter to Stalin on the subject of creating a Jewish Autonomous Republic in the Crimea. It is the republics, not the regions. It may well be that this was one of the reasons for the hasty deportation of the Crimean Tatars as the indigenous population of the Crimea on May 18-20, 1944. Stalin hesitated for a long time with an answer, and in the end, when he no longer needed the help of American Jews, he shot the entire anti-fascist committee in its entirety. (1) It should be noted that Stalin put a lot of effort into the establishment of Israel, and rather in spite of Great Britain, and also in the hope that the Jewish state would become socialist, given Ben Gurion's commitment to socialism.

Be that as it may, but fate decreed the best. The European Holocaust convinced the Jews of the world to be faithful to the ideology of Zionism, to the creation of a state for the Jews. The Jewish state was, I would say, re-established 3,300 years later on the territory where King Solomon's kingdom was located. However, strictly according to historical facts, the Jews have more rights to Egypt than the Arabs living in it, since the Jews as a people came out of Egypt when there were no Arabs there at all. (2) The determination of the Jewish people was rewarded, but for the Arabs who had lived in Palestine since 632, the date of the establishment of the Arab Caliphate, the event was a complete surprise and had a tragic consequence:- about 5 million Palestinian refugees scattered in the surrounding countries and the loss of territory:


View attachment 55688Because of Israel's settlement activities, there is virtually nothing left of the territory intended for the Arab state. The Palestinian population was under apartheid, behind a concrete wall and a barbed-wire fence, and was a cheap labour force for the Israeli economy.

View attachment 55690


There is a constant quiet seizure of territory for the Jewish state, which makes the Arabs of Palestine angry.In spite of the totally disparate values of both casualties and means of warfare, the state of war is expressed in the endless terrorist attacks and attacks against Israel.

The Middle East Arab-Israeli conflict, which has claimed thousands of lives on both sides, is celebrating, so to speak, its 75th anniversary, with no end in sight. This is not to say that efforts were not made to put an end to the bloody confrontation. In 1991, the Madrid Peace Conference was held under the auspices of the United States, which began the so-called peace process (3), which by 1994 was marked by the "Oslo Accords" between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization, which caused a sharp rejection of Israel by the right-wing camp. As a result, the assassination of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin. (4)

View attachment 55691


After the political assassination of Yitzhak Rabin, the process of peace negotiations, which had begun with such difficulty, thanks primarily to the policy of the White House, came to an impasse, from which the Palestinians found a way out in war. In war, which has become an attribute, or rather a way of life, and of death, so to speak, because violent premature death is a common occurrence in the life of both the autonomy and Israel. The threat of death does not stop the Arabs of Gaza from launching Qassama missiles towards nearby Israeli cities. Unable to prevent the shelling, the Israeli army acts on the principle of revenge in response to terrorist attacks and rocket attacks, which, in principle, as reality shows, does not change the situation.
In 2002, Saudi Arabia came up with a peace initiative:

– all Arab countries recognize the State of Israel, – Israel liberates the occupied territories, does not prevent the return of Palestinian refugees,
East Jerusalem receives the status of the capital of Palestine.

Even the leader of the Israeli right, former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, acknowledged the occupation.

Israel's rejection of the Saudi Peace Initiative, which is a reflection of the two-State solution, has led to the radicalization of the Palestinian community and the rise to power of Hamas, whose leaders see in the endless peace process only the continuation of the occupation and apartheid against their people, because the conditions created by Israel in the occupied territory of a failed state for the Arabs of Palestine are anything other than reservations. You can't name it. The population of the Territories is beginning to lose hope in the reality of the changes promised by the treaty. It turns out, as the Palestinians imagine, that the leaders of Hamas are right when they call for a boycott of all dialogue and assert that only the destruction of Israel as a state will solve the Palestinian problem.

In my opinion, the UN made its main mistake in 1947 by creating two states on the territory of Palestine for two peoples - a Jewish and an Arab state, without first ensuring their security by the introduction of UN troops on the border of partition. Taking into account that the Ashkenazi Jews, who represented the people of Israel at that time, and the Arabs are so different in terms of mentality, culture, faith, and level of civilization, it was possible to foresee their confrontation, which resulted in an endless bloody war.
The UN must correct its mistake, otherwise there will be no peace in the Middle East. (5)

1. Whose Crimea. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/4030.html
2. Peace process. http://proza.ru/2010/12/16/592
3. Facts, people's mentality and historical justice. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/13335.html
4. On the question of who killed Rabin. Israel, "Our Country" newspaper, 04.12.96. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/94912.html
5. Israel, and the plain truth. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/6466.html

27.10.2023
don't forget.

if you make our countries anti-white we get a free nation out of it too.

:truestory:
 
lol more rubbish. leaves out a lot, of course, like how feral and stupidly criminal the Arabs were, and how miserably they failed at trying to genocide Jews there. Their 'mighty warriors of Allah's' armies almost immediately disintegrated into looting mobs of rapists and looters, even raping and murdering their own Arabs. So much for the idiot plan of giving the feral gangsters a third state to fuck up.

The majority of faux 'Palestinians' want to be re-located, not 're-organized' under yet another corrupt gang of murdering thieves. They now know what Hamas and it fans like Bashi here have in store for them.
 
Palestine's mistake was choosing war rather than peaceful coexistence. The Palestinians are their own worst enemy. Don't start wars you cannot win.
 
Palestine's mistake was choosing war rather than peaceful coexistence. The Palestinians are their own worst enemy. Don't start wars you cannot win.

They were never capable of self-rule anyway, and still aren't. They rely on murder for hire and extortion for an 'economy', same for all Arab 'countries'; if it wasn't for oil they would still be fighting over water holes and sheep raping, running slaves, and robbing caravans.
 
They were never capable of self-rule anyway, and still aren't. They rely on murder for hire and extortion for an 'economy', same for all Arab 'countries'; if it wasn't for oil they would still be fighting over water holes and sheep raping, running slaves, and robbing caravans.
They're more like street gangs that fight over their little piece of 'turf' endlessly.
 
They're more like street gangs that fight over their little piece of 'turf' endlessly.
takes two to tango right?

jews are successful enough to just move on, instead they choose to wallow around in the dust with the flea dogs they claim to hate.

I guess its not beneath them.

fucking sad.
 
lol more rubbish. leaves out a lot, of course, like how feral and stupidly criminal the Arabs were, and how miserably they failed at trying to genocide Jews there. Their 'mighty warriors of Allah's' armies almost immediately disintegrated into looting mobs of rapists and looters, even raping and murdering their own Arabs. So much for the idiot plan of giving the feral gangsters a third state to fuck up.

The majority of faux 'Palestinians' want to be re-located, not 're-organized' under yet another corrupt gang of murdering thieves. They now know what Hamas and it fans like Bashi here have in store for them.
Fake Palestinians may want one, but real Palestinians want to have their own state, to be free, and not under the supervision of the Israelis.
 
takes two to tango right?

jews are successful enough to just move on, instead they choose to wallow around in the dust with the flea dogs they claim to hate.

I guess its not beneath them.

fucking sad.
They picked their spot and have improved on it considerably. They've built a fairly modern, first-world, nation and are able to manufacture some pretty top tech things. If their neighbors were the bunch of tribal, backwards, in-fighting dumbfucks they are, the region wouldn't be the fucked-up soup-sandwich it is.
 
takes two to tango right?

jews are successful enough to just move on, instead they choose to wallow around in the dust with the flea dogs they claim to hate.

I guess its not beneath them.

fucking sad.

Actually they were invited in by the Ottomans, legally bought the place, did the work, paid the taxes. Not their fault the Ottomans fell, WW I and II happened, and the survivors didn't feel like living in the camps for years, and the Arabs expelling 600,000 Jews from all across the Arab Shitstain Ummah or whatever the feral thugs call their toilet.
 
Fake Palestinians may want one, but real Palestinians want to have their own state, to be free, and not under the supervision of the Israelis.

There are no 'real Palestinians'; they're Egyptian, Iraqi, Syrian, or from some other Arab shithole. Just a fact, is all.
 
They picked their spot and have improved on it considerably. They've built a fairly modern, first-world, nation and are able to manufacture some pretty top tech things. If their neighbors were the bunch of tribal, backwards, in-fighting dumbfucks they are, the region wouldn't be the fucked-up soup-sandwich it is.

Well, they're not really all that bright, they let a large Arab population infest the place, they keep feeding the vermin, and allowed a lot of the cretins to work in Israel. It was those scum that scouted out the area of the raids for their Hamas heroes. Hopefully they have the sense to stop that. Currently Trump and the Israelis are working on a homeland for the Druze allies, as well as those Kurdish allies that aren't Reds. That will go a long way to stabilizing some parts of the wilderness.

Some are hopeful the Saudis and UAE's current modernizations will take hold, but all it takes for them to revert back to feral savagery is for a ruler to die and some crazy relative getting in power to undo all that.
 
2 states of existence within a species consisting of 5 ancestral lineages with up to 5 currently alive generation gaps of genetic results living as eternally separated adapting in space daily here per hearts beating forward one at a time now. Male or female offspring that does or doesn't become 1 of 2 parents cradle to grave. Then there is does the parent outlive their offspring so when dead, there are no bodies carrying the results of one's chromosomes ever existed in following generation gaps here so far.

the simplicity of actual time adapting as a sole position since conceived to replace one's previous 4 generation gap DNA donors of no body has same chromosomes as previous lifetimes so far.

Simple compounding ratio between current 5 generation gaps within each ancestral lineage and siblings and cousins of each generation still alive per rotation of the planet here now. Regardless which generation gap achieved since birth. Equal time living eternally separated as geographically inhabiting space currently alive in an ever changing form never duplicated since rotation arrived one's actual fertilized cell.

Evolving is a common process like language to communicate between 8.2 billion ancestors inhabiting space daily here. Eternity isn't that difficult to figure out in real time existing physically self evidently here. Social minds agree to disagree living is self evident time being alive per heart beating forward now.

16 great great grandparents, 2nd generation of 8 great grandparents, 3rd generation of 4 grandparents, 4th generation of 2 parenting the arriving 5th generation gap of each great great grandchild born each rotation forward now.

Dawn to dawn, noon to noon, dusk to dusk, mid night to midnight, Greenwich Prime Meridian to International Dateline 7 days a week 52 weeks a year regardless the year is 365 or 366 days, 12 months, each lifetime is recorded being alive birth to dead, not conceived to decomposed.
 
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There are no 'real Palestinians'; they're Egyptian, Iraqi, Syrian, or from some other Arab shithole. Just a fact, is all.
There are no 'real Palestinians'; they're Egyptian, Iraqi, Syrian, or from some other Arab shithole. Just a fact, is all.

As far as we know, the Arabs living in Egypt are Egyptians. The Arabs living in Syria are Syrians, etc., so why aren't the Arabs living in Palestine Palestinians, and how you defined them not real. Funny, isn't it? Yes, you need to learn some logic. Go on, you're helping me develop the topic.
 
Actually they were invited in by the Ottomans, legally bought the place, did the work, paid the taxes. Not their fault the Ottomans fell, WW I and II happened, and the survivors didn't feel like living in the camps for years, and the Arabs expelling 600,000 Jews from all across the Arab Shitstain Ummah or whatever the feral thugs call their toilet.
genocide is wrong.
 
They picked their spot and have improved on it considerably. They've built a fairly modern, first-world, nation and are able to manufacture some pretty top tech things. If their neighbors were the bunch of tribal, backwards, in-fighting dumbfucks they are, the region wouldn't be the fucked-up soup-sandwich it is.
continual defacot seige warfare does that to an area.
 
There are no 'real Palestinians'; they're Egyptian, Iraqi, Syrian, or from some other Arab shithole. Just a fact, is all.

As far as we know, the Arabs living in Egypt are Egyptians. The Arabs living in Syria are Syrians, etc., so why aren't the Arabs living in Palestine Palestinians, and how you defined them not real. Funny, isn't it? Yes, you need to learn some logic. Go on, you're helping me develop the topic.

lol you're just another delusional psycho, so patting yourself on the back over your loony claims is just standard for you clowns. Allah clearly likes the Jews a lot better than he likes Arabs. lol
 
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