Ignorance and the Bible

Blind guess is making a random, uninformed, without evidence nor knowledge. The Biblical scholars, those atheists I refer to, are more knowledgeable, more informed, more intellectual and have studied the evidence more than you and I ever will.

Your “blind guess” mantra fails on all accounts.
It doesn't, but I see you have a problem with that.

That is your problem...not mine.
 
Pascals
Your choice to disregard logic in favor of your emotional attachment to atheism. :) As for Pascal, there's the man and there's the decision tree. The decision tree is logical. Human beings, by their very nature, are flawed.

FWIW, Christian nationalists are not Christians. It's an oxymoron with an emphasis on moron.

You never heard of the Four Horsemen of New Atheism? Let me help you:
Major figures of New Atheism include Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, and Christopher Hitchens,[3] collectively referred to as the "Four Horsemen" of the movement.[5] Proponents of the New Atheist movement have experienced some controversy and criticisms from academics and other atheists.


https://cnyepiscopal.org/2024/08/01...w-does-it-distort-the-gospel-of-jesus-christ/
Rather than seeing beauty in the wide variety of humanity in America, Christian nationalists single out one segment of society and hold up those who espouse an abridged version of Christianity as the exemplar for all. And while Christian nationalists overtly focus on religion, racist, sexist, and anti-LGBTQIA rhetoric often is employed.

Christian nationalism truncates the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The emphasis is on personal salvation and often downplays or ignores the social responsibilities of the Gospel.


The roots of Christian nationalism are not biblical—they are theosophical, political and ethnocentric.

Throughout Western history, Christian nationalism has been used as a veneer to justify imperialism, colonialism and ethnic domination. If that sounds like a fascist regime, it should. The idea emerged during Constantine’s era when the Roman Empire insisted on the Christian faith as a civic identity. Centuries of political Christianity followed through crusades, inquisitions and enemies of the state. Power became a sacrament and force masquerading as theology.

Consider this: Just because the emperor was an advocate for Christianity doesn’t make what he did to force the issue any less fascist.


The American version of Christian nationalism dates back to colonial Puritanism, which saw the New World as a “city on a hill.” Yet the Constitution of the United States directly opposes any such union, with the First Amendment forbidding the establishment of religion. Despite this, figures throughout American history have continued to equate patriotism with Christianity.
Pascals Wager fails from the beginning with his failed premise and over simplification. Simple logic says when the premise is false, the conclusions are invalid.

Who are you to define whether Christian nationalists are Christian or not? They define themselves that way. They adhere to the basic Christian dogma, don’t they? The Trinity. Resurrection. All that bullshit, right?

I know full well those 4 atheists. Don’t much give a shit about Dawkins. Dennett and Hitchens were two forces to be reckoned with, but are dead now. Harris? A shit load smarter than the apologists he destroys.
 
Pascals

Pascals Wager fails from the beginning with his failed premise and over simplification. Simple logic says when the premise is false, the conclusions are invalid.

Who are you to define whether Christian nationalists are Christian or not? They define themselves that way. They adhere to the basic Christian dogma, don’t they? The Trinity. Resurrection. All that bullshit, right?

I know full well those 4 atheists. Don’t much give a shit about Dawkins. Dennett and Hitchens were two forces to be reckoned with, but are dead now. Harris? A shit load smarter than the apologists he destroys.
Sam Harris is a blithering Nazi moron.

:truestory:
 
that's saboteur, look it up, dumbass.

atheist masons are sabotaging human morality and work for Satan.
I know what a saboteur is, pally boy. Your masonic saboteur is gibberish.

Satan is a myth.

Don’t be fucking around with personal insults, Jethro. That gets you nowhere.
 
Perhaps one shouldn’t lie about it, but politicians do and Trump is particularly adept at it. And the Christian right will ignore anything to retain their political power, as well.

At this point, I don’t give a shit about the feckless Democrats. Until they get their shit together, I have no use for them.
In my opinion, Democrats, or at least a vocal minority of them, are picking the wrong Hills to die on.

I've seen the Democratic ability to win in socially conservative Midwestern states erode for at least the last decade. I don't think it is a mystery why.

Mocking Christianity, supporting transgender swimmers on NCAA women's teams, proclaiming the superiority of militant secularism and materialism isn't going to win any elections.

Now that we are at the threshold of fascism, I'm not going to make bibles in Oklahoma schools the hill I want my party to die on. That can be pushed to the side and quietly pursued in the courts. What we need to do is win elections, and focus on things that used to allow Democrats to win in places like Iowa, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

You are never going to have social justice if you allow the country to be dominated by MAGA.

Gavin Newsome seems to have gotten the memo that beating back fascism is going to require things like gerrymandering and dropping the pretense that the party wants transgenders to have a constitutional right to swim on the Penn State women's team.
 
Gavin Newsome seems to have gotten the memo that fighting fascism is going to require things like gerrymandering and dropping the pretense that the party wants transgenders to have a constitutional right to swim on the Penn State women's team.


what would possibly be the reason for running the party off a cliff over these insane issues?


is it pretense?

does the entire liberal media know it's pretense?

when are you going to tell them?
 

No it is not.

I am telling you that I do not believe "x."

What do you think that means?

If I go by what YOU claim then it is purely a belief of yours that "X" does not exist.

If you go by what I claim then it is simply a lack of belief in "X".

Just because Bjork told me there are elves I am under no obligation to believe any such claim. That does not make my position a belief itself. Even though there could be elves.

I can't make this more simple so I'm going to leave it at that. If you wish to tell me what my position is without any real apparent knowledge of my position I guess I'm going to have to leave it be. It's a "you" thing, and has nothing to do with my position.
 
what would possibly be the reason for running the party off a cliff over these insane issues?


is it pretense?

does the entire liberal media know it's pretense?

when are you going to tell them?
The majority of Democrats are Christian, and the majority of Democrats never supported a civil right of transgenders to swim on the Ohio State women's swim team.

It's a vocal minority on the left that gave Republicans the opening to paint the Democratic party as an atheist organization that hates Christians, and thumbs it's nose at traditional Midwestern values.

As long as your fascists are winning elections, I am not going to make girl's swim teams and bibles in an Oklahoma classroom the hills I choose to die on.
 
Pascals

Pascals Wager fails from the beginning with his failed premise and over simplification.

I feel that Pascal's Wager fails on theological grounds. Since it proposes that when one is faced with the choice that one will obviously choose to believe in God given the option of spending eternity in Hell. But I don't think that God would "accept" worship that was given that disingenuously. The critical piece in Christianity is that one must accept Christ's sacrifice, one must accept that one is fallen and in need of salvation and that salvation came through Christ's sacrifice. Which means you can't just "dial it in". You pretty much have to be all-in or not at all.

If someone was pointing a gun at my head and said "Love me wholeheartedly or I will shoot you", I assume I'm going to get shot despite my best efforts.

 
In my opinion, Democrats, or at least a vocal minority of them, are picking the wrong Hills to die on.

I've seen the Democratic ability to win in socially conservative Midwestern states erode for at least the last decade. I don't think it is a mystery why.

Mocking Christianity, supporting transgender swimmers on NCAA women's teams, proclaiming the superiority of militant secularism and materialism isn't going to win any elections.

Now that we are at the threshold of fascism, I'm not going to make bibles in Oklahoma schools the hill I want my party to die on. That can be pushed to the side and quietly pursued in the courts. What we need to do is win elections, and focus on things that used to allow Democrats to win in places like Iowa, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

You are never going to have social justice if you allow the country to be dominated by MAGA.

Gavin Newsome seems to have gotten the memo that beating back fascism is going to require things like gerrymandering and dropping the pretense that the party wants transgenders to have a constitutional right to swim on the Penn State women's team.
the Dems are trying to kill everyone with big pharma poisons.

so go eat a dick.

you fools have lost it all for a few generations.
 
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