Rand Paul Remarks Lead KY Legislature to Pass CR Resolution

Which reminds me I have a bronze medallion depicting the bust.....oops, I mean the upper body :( .....of Frances E. Willard prominently displayed on my bar between a bottle of Glenlivet and one of Johnnie Walker Black. :)

Good to see you again, Zoom!

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Always good to see you, Apple.
 
Just because i haven't ripped into the Democrats yet doesn't mean I give them a free ride. In terms of my loss of credibility because i didn't rip them equally for being anti-democratic, that's utter horseshit. First, I didn't rip Republicans per se for being anti-democratic, and in fact did not use the terms "Republican" or "GOP" in this post, and used the term "democrats" once. For the entire post, I spoke only in terms of conservatives vs progressives, and while "conservatives" has become largely synonymous with Republicans," the same can't be said of "progressives" and "Democrats," which unfortunately are nowhere near synonymous. The Democratic Leadership Council (DLC),of which Bill Clinton was a founding member, if memory serves, and who are currently headed by Harold Ford, are funded with corporate money, and are (surprise!!) pro-corporate, anti-democratic, faux-centrist, GOP-Lite phonies who have sold out to the corporate oligarchy's agenda. There is no such thing as a true centrist in the US today: the fight is between pro-democratic progressives and anti-democratic corporately funded so-called conservatives, who are actually regressives, as true principled conservatives believe in personal responsibility, fiscal restraint, and limited government, none of which are evident in the current crop of regressives.
to the following fact, because it is crucial to understanding what is really happening in this country: B]THERE IS NO CENTRIST POSITION BETWEEN DEMOCRACY AND THE FORCES OF OLIGARCHY AND PLUTOCRACY[/B]. There can be none by definition. Plutocracy and oligarchy rely on the concentration of economic and political power, while democracy is the ultimate dilution of power, and there is no compromise position between them. After all, how much sovereignty are you willing to surrender to unelected CEOs, and to what end? And do you think for a second that your first compromise to them will be your last? Even Adam Smith distrusted corporations. The "free market" ideologues who love to quote The Wealth of Nations sem to leave that little tidbit out. The market he envisioned was peopled by sole proprietorships with full liability for their actions and some sense of civic duty, not amoral LLCs with no social responsibility. Anybody who claims to be a centrist in this struggle is a liar and a corporate stooge.

For those who may be thinking I'm being alarmist, let me ask you something: do you think for a second that the forces of aristocracy and corporate power (the British East India Company) accepted their defeat by the forces of those class traitors who began this experiment in representative democracy? Do you think they folded their tents and apologetically backed away into the night, mumbling, "You were right and we were wrong. Please accept our humble apologies for making your lives hell. It won't happen again. Our bad." Hell no. Their ideological descendants are trying to pull the same shit. Wake the fuck up.

I've had a few, so I apologize if this kind of sounds like it.

I'd like to make mention that we are not a democracy. We are a democratic republic.

I don't want to surrender any sovereignty to any CEOs. I just want to compete. I'm not asking for a hand out. I'm demanding that the government keep their hand out of my pocket. I want them to stop taking my money against my will to bail the CEOs out, (and their employees out) at my expense.

Progressives are Marxist, and should go live in North Korea where they belong. They are anti-liberty and deserve the fruits of their labor.
 
I've had a few, so I apologize if this kind of sounds like it.

I'd like to make mention that we are not a democracy. We are a democratic republic.

I don't want to surrender any sovereignty to any CEOs. I just want to compete. I'm not asking for a hand out. I'm demanding that the government keep their hand out of my pocket. I want them to stop taking my money against my will to bail the CEOs out, (and their employees out) at my expense.

Progressives are Marxist, and should go live in North Korea where they belong. They are anti-liberty and deserve the fruits of their labor.

Why is it that pinheads who know nothing about politics insist on correcting others for referring to our system of government as a democracy. I know it's a democratic republic, dickhead, but I don't feel like typing that out every goddamn time I refer to it. Nit-picking pissant.

BTW, progressives are neither Marxists nor anti-liberty, thank you very much. If you're going to debate the grown-ups on politics. you should first make sure your head isn't so far up your ass that you can actually see daylight. For how many generations has your family been inbreeding? You are truly an ignoranus. Who the fuck do you think wants the bail-outs to stop, and the big companies broken up, so they can fail if they screw up? the progressives, you blithering dunce. And BTW, Mr. "We are a democratic republic," that means the government is not a "they" taking money from our pockets against our will. The government is us, and those of us who know what the hell we're talking about (a number that does not include you, in case you'd forgotten) know that taxes are the admission you pay to be in the show. You want to compete, you pony up the entry fee. You don't want the government's hand in your pocket? Oh, you must live in one of those deadbeat red states, who are a net drain on our treasury, those rugged individualists who suck on the government teat, then talk trash about liberals and progressives, while those of us in the hated, wimpy, unpatriotic, allegedly Marxist, liberal and progressive blue states, are not only paying our own freight, but yours as well, you freeloading, I-want-something-for-nothing-while-I-whine-about-liberty. teabagging, tinfoil-hat-wearing, batshit loser. If we progressives go live in North Korea, who's going to pay your way, freeloader? You're just goddamn lucky that we're a forgiving bunch, but you better watch your mouth, inbreeding boy. There's a limit to how much shit we're going to take off the likes of you, you ignorant fuck. I bet you think the tea party is the grass-roots movement that will be the savior of our country. Not as long as it's funded by corporate lobbyists. The tea party isn't grass-roots anything. It's a phony astroturf movement, funded by corporations to paint the government as the enemy, and the "free market" and deregulation as he twin engines of economic prosperity, which are going to increase competition and make us all live happily ever after. Oh, sorry, the top 1% will, with the money we loot from the rest of them, whlle those idiots try to shrink their government, the only thing standing between them and a rapacious corporate beast that wants all the wealth in the country, lots of poor people in prison so we can make them work for slave wages, and no educated middle class voters to stand in their way. Mnwhile, Liberty, the twit who thinks they're going to let his inbred ass compete with them; the one who is so dain bramaged he probably bought the bullshit they spread conflating the top 1% and small business owners, where they claimed that Obama's proposed sunsetting of the Bush tax cuts would equal tax increases on the top 1% and adversely affect job creation. Like most of the teabaggers he is most likely unaware that we're using gross revenues and taxable net earnings interchangably, even though the former is th ertop line of a P&L and the latter is the bottom. Good old Joe the plumber had you idiots convinced that he "couldn't afford to buy a $250,000 a year plumbing business because of Obama's proposed increased taxes on those making more than $250,000 a year." Lovely. Brilliant. Now can somebody explain to the low-information voters in the audience that a quarter million dollar business is not taxed on its gross revenues, but on its net taxable earnings (aka profit), and that Joe himself will only pay income taxes on whatever employee salary he assigns himself, and if he makes $250,000 on a $250,000 business, he's laundering drug money.

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Why is it that pinheads who know nothing about politics insist on correcting others for referring to our system of government as a democracy. I know it's a democratic republic, dickhead, but I don't feel like typing that out every goddamn time I refer to it. Nit-picking pissant.

BTW, progressives are neither Marxists nor anti-liberty, thank you very much. If you're going to debate the grown-ups on politics. you should first make sure your head isn't so far up your ass that you can actually see daylight. For how many generations has your family been inbreeding? You are truly an ignoranus. Who the fuck do you think wants the bail-outs to stop, and the big companies broken up, so they can fail if they screw up? the progressives, you blithering dunce. And BTW, Mr. "We are a democratic republic," that means the government is not a "they" taking money from our pockets against our will. The government is us, and those of us who know what the hell we're talking about (a number that does not include you, in case you'd forgotten) know that taxes are the admission you pay to be in the show. You want to compete, you pony up the entry fee. You don't want the government's hand in your pocket? Oh, you must live in one of those deadbeat red states, who are a net drain on our treasury, those rugged individualists who suck on the government teat, then talk trash about liberals and progressives, while those of us in the hated, wimpy, unpatriotic, allegedly Marxist, liberal and progressive blue states, are not only paying our own freight, but yours as well, you freeloading, I-want-something-for-nothing-while-I-whine-about-liberty. teabagging, tinfoil-hat-wearing, batshit loser. If we progressives go live in North Korea, who's going to pay your way, freeloader? You're just goddamn lucky that we're a forgiving bunch, but you better watch your mouth, inbreeding boy. There's a limit to how much shit we're going to take off the likes of you, you ignorant fuck. I bet you think the tea party is the grass-roots movement that will be the savior of our country. Not as long as it's funded by corporate lobbyists. The tea party isn't grass-roots anything. It's a phony astroturf movement, funded by corporations to paint the government as the enemy, and the "free market" and deregulation as he twin engines of economic prosperity, which are going to increase competition and make us all live happily ever after. Oh, sorry, the top 1% will, with the money we loot from the rest of them, whlle those idiots try to shrink their government, the only thing standing between them and a rapacious corporate beast that wants all the wealth in the country, lots of poor people in prison so we can make them work for slave wages, and no educated middle class voters to stand in their way. Mnwhile, Liberty, the twit who thinks they're going to let his inbred ass compete with them; the one who is so dain bramaged he probably bought the bullshit they spread conflating the top 1% and small business owners, where they claimed that Obama's proposed sunsetting of the Bush tax cuts would equal tax increases on the top 1% and adversely affect job creation. Like most of the teabaggers he is most likely unaware that we're using gross revenues and taxable net earnings interchangably, even though the former is th ertop line of a P&L and the latter is the bottom. Good old Joe the plumber had you idiots convinced that he "couldn't afford to buy a $250,000 a year plumbing business because of Obama's proposed increased taxes on those making more than $250,000 a year." Lovely. Brilliant. Now can somebody explain to the low-information voters in the audience that a quarter million dollar business is not taxed on its gross revenues, but on its net taxable earnings (aka profit), and that Joe himself will only pay income taxes on whatever employee salary he assigns himself, and if he makes $250,000 on a $250,000 business, he's laundering drug money.

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Talking about Joe the plumber I did a breakdown on Joe's rant a while back. Remember the proposed tax increase on ones earnings going from $250,000/yr to $275,000/yr? The discussion was concerning 3% on the additional $25,000. That's $750.00.

If one considers the $750.00 over the total earnings of $275,000 it is 0.027%. Just a fraction over ¼ of one percent. Expressed another way it is equivalent to 27 cents out of a hundred dollars so Joe figured if he had to pay an additional 27 cents out of each $100.00 in earnings it wouldn't be worth his while to buy a company.

(Excerpt) In January 2009, Wurzelbacher began work as a motivational speaker and commentator. His first assignment was to comment from Israel on the fighting between the Israeli Defence Forces and Hamas, focusing on the Israeli experience of the conflict. On February 26, Wurzelbacher spoke at the Conservative Political Action Conference, where he led a panel titled "conservatism 2.0". On February 27, he spoke at the Washington, D.C. American Tea Party protest in Lafayette Park. In March, Wurzelbacher attended two conferences in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, first speaking to the "Conservative Young Professionals of Milwaukee," and then at the “Defending the American Dream Summit." On April 15, he spoke at the Michigan Tax Day Tea Party in Lansing. On May 6, 2009, Wurzelbacher appeared at a campaign event on behalf of New Jersey Gubernatorial Candidate Steve Lonegan. In May 2009, Time magazine reported that Wurzelbacher was quitting the Republican Party. On September 19 he spoke at a Tea Party protest at Veteran's Park in Milwaukee.

On February 13, 2010 Wurzelbacher attended a political event for Pennsylvania gubernatorial candidate, Sam Rohrer. Speaking to a reporter afterwards, Wurzelbacher said that "McCain was trying to use [him]", and accused McCain of having "really screwed [Wurzelbacher's] life up. (End)
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He blames McCain for screwing up his life! The guy was never a certified plumber. It's obvious he knows nothing about finances/business and then moves on to comment on the middle east conflict. Then the Repubs hire him as a motivational speaker.

Who would even listen to the guy let alone be motivated by him?

There's no better example of what the Repubs think of the intelligence of the general population when they try to pass off someone like Joe as a motivational speaker. Need more be said?
 
Why is it that pinheads who know nothing about politics insist on correcting others for referring to our system of government as a democracy. I know it's a democratic republic, dickhead, but I don't feel like typing that out every goddamn time I refer to it. Nit-picking pissant.

BTW, progressives are neither Marxists nor anti-liberty, thank you very much. If you're going to debate the grown-ups on politics. you should first make sure your head isn't so far up your ass that you can actually see daylight. For how many generations has your family been inbreeding? You are truly an ignoranus. Who the fuck do you think wants the bail-outs to stop, and the big companies broken up, so they can fail if they screw up? the progressives, you blithering dunce. And BTW, Mr. "We are a democratic republic," that means the government is not a "they" taking money from our pockets against our will. The government is us, and those of us who know what the hell we're talking about (a number that does not include you, in case you'd forgotten) know that taxes are the admission you pay to be in the show. You want to compete, you pony up the entry fee. You don't want the government's hand in your pocket? Oh, you must live in one of those deadbeat red states, who are a net drain on our treasury, those rugged individualists who suck on the government teat, then talk trash about liberals and progressives, while those of us in the hated, wimpy, unpatriotic, allegedly Marxist, liberal and progressive blue states, are not only paying our own freight, but yours as well, you freeloading, I-want-something-for-nothing-while-I-whine-about-liberty. teabagging, tinfoil-hat-wearing, batshit loser. If we progressives go live in North Korea, who's going to pay your way, freeloader? You're just goddamn lucky that we're a forgiving bunch, but you better watch your mouth, inbreeding boy. There's a limit to how much shit we're going to take off the likes of you, you ignorant fuck. I bet you think the tea party is the grass-roots movement that will be the savior of our country. Not as long as it's funded by corporate lobbyists. The tea party isn't grass-roots anything. It's a phony astroturf movement, funded by corporations to paint the government as the enemy, and the "free market" and deregulation as he twin engines of economic prosperity, which are going to increase competition and make us all live happily ever after. Oh, sorry, the top 1% will, with the money we loot from the rest of them, whlle those idiots try to shrink their government, the only thing standing between them and a rapacious corporate beast that wants all the wealth in the country, lots of poor people in prison so we can make them work for slave wages, and no educated middle class voters to stand in their way. Mnwhile, Liberty, the twit who thinks they're going to let his inbred ass compete with them; the one who is so dain bramaged he probably bought the bullshit they spread conflating the top 1% and small business owners, where they claimed that Obama's proposed sunsetting of the Bush tax cuts would equal tax increases on the top 1% and adversely affect job creation. Like most of the teabaggers he is most likely unaware that we're using gross revenues and taxable net earnings interchangably, even though the former is th ertop line of a P&L and the latter is the bottom. Good old Joe the plumber had you idiots convinced that he "couldn't afford to buy a $250,000 a year plumbing business because of Obama's proposed increased taxes on those making more than $250,000 a year." Lovely. Brilliant. Now can somebody explain to the low-information voters in the audience that a quarter million dollar business is not taxed on its gross revenues, but on its net taxable earnings (aka profit), and that Joe himself will only pay income taxes on whatever employee salary he assigns himself, and if he makes $250,000 on a $250,000 business, he's laundering drug money.

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I'll be out most of the day, and I'll reply to this post in more detail when I have more time. That being said I wanted to make the point that your comunication skills say a lot about you.

Progressives are not Marxist, or anti-liberty? Maybe you could answer this with a yes, or no somewhere in the rants you come up with.

You're a progressive.
Do you want to do away with the income tax?
Do you want to do away with the EPA,
Department of Education,
Social security,
gun rights,
the Federal Reserve,

I could make the list longer, but these should do.
 
Shit, I forsee an epic debate brewing between Zoom and Liberty. Good gawd, what a battle of diametrically opposed rhetoric!!
Lighten up Sarge. That's just Zoom's sense of humor. There's no such thing as a radical, moderate, populist. It's an oxymoron, git it?

or are you a retard? ;)

(So much for the Air Farce having higher standards!) :pke:

(JK)
 
Did Rand Paul Rip Off Rush?

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http://www.sodahead.com/entertainment/did-rand-paul-rip-off-rush/question-1047971/
 
Shit, I forsee an epic debate brewing between Zoom and Liberty. Good gawd, what a battle of diametrically opposed rhetoric!!

It is summer you know.

Maybe he thought it might might be best to start reading up on Karl Marx before replying.:cof1:
 
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