Special relationship? America's still itching to bash us in the snoot

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I thaink that Peter Hitchens has got it about right again.



By Peter Hitchens
Last updated at 2:35 AM on 13th June 2010



The USA is my favourite foreign country – but I never forget that it is foreign, and has often been our enemy and our rival. So I am rather pleased that President Barack Obama has openly shown hostility to this country over the BP oil spill, unlike several of his forerunners, who smiled at us while doing us down.

It may help us all grow up and stop fawning on Washington. Far too many people – many of them academics, many politicians – continue to jabber about a supposed ‘special relationship’ between our two countries.

I used to think that no such thing existed. Recently, I have become convinced that it does, and that it is in fact a Specially Bad Relationship.




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'Specially Bad Relationship': President Obama on the phone to David Cameron



Americans may say they love our accents (I have been accused of sounding ‘like Princess Di’) but the more thoughtful ones resent and rather dislike us as a nation and people, as friends of mine have found out by being on the edge of conversations where Americans assumed no Englishmen were listening.


And it is the English, specifically, who are the targets of this. Few Americans have heard of Wales. All of them have heard of Ireland and many of them think they are Irish.



Scotland gets a sort of free pass, especially since Braveheart re-established the Scots’ anti-English credentials among the ignorant millions who get their history off the TV.


Words such as ‘arrogant’ and ‘snobbish’ occur – and the ceaseless use of English actors in Hollywood movies to portray haughty, cruel villains is not accidental.



Sometimes it bursts out into the open. Mel Gibson’s atrocious anti-English propaganda film The Patriot pretty much equated the Redcoats with the Nazi SS. And it played to full and enthusiastic houses. Some of this is deep-buried. The American national anthem, The Star-Spangled Banner, is a des*cription of a British naval bombardment of Baltimore. It refers to the presence of British troops on American soil as ‘their foul footsteps’ pollution’.


There’s always been a rough, republican anti-English spirit, well expres*sed by the Mayor of Chicago, Big Bill Thompson, who threatened to punch King George V ‘in the snoot’ if he ever came that way. His Majesty didn’t.
Apart from the war of 1812 to 1814, the two countries have almost come to blows many times. It was American pressure that forced us out of the first rank of naval powers in the Washington Naval Treaty of 1922, which led to our defeat at Singapore 20 years later.


The last physical clash was in 1956 when the US Sixth Fleet harassed the Royal Navy on its way to Suez, deliberately steering destroyers dangerously close to our battle line.


But by then Washington had learned money spoke louder than guns, and Dwight Eisenhower forced us to abort the operation by threatening to bankrupt us.


During an assignment in Washington I watched Bill Clinton fawn over the grisly IRA apologist Gerry Adams.


I learned that White House officials regarded us as on a level with, say, Yugoslavia – an annoying, backward European nation to be ordered about and forbidden to control its internal affairs.


That’s how it really stands. I would like a British Government to behave as if it understood this, instead of mouthing outdated and meaningless fake Chur*chillian ‘Finest Hour’ rubbish.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...mericas-itching-bash-snoot.html#ixzz0qlaDRviN


 
I'm sure Mr. Hitchens will be sadly disappointed when this boozo we have in Washington right now is finally and thankfully gone and the citizens of the US elect a normal patriot to take his place that will show the UK the respect and friendship she deserves...
 
I'm sure Mr. Hitchens will be sadly disappointed when this boozo we have in Washington right now is finally and thankfully gone and the citizens of the US elect a normal patriot to take his place that will show the UK the respect and friendship she deserves...

If you knew more of Peter Hitchens you wouldn't say that, he is considered right wing at least in British terms. I think you are confusing him with his brother Christopher Hitchens. I understand why Obama is doing it as he is facing mid term elections in November and a bit of Brit bashing always seems to play well domestically.
 
I thaink that Peter Hitchens has got it about right again.



By Peter Hitchens
Last updated at 2:35 AM on 13th June 2010



The USA is my favourite foreign country – but I never forget that it is foreign, and has often been our enemy and our rival. So I am rather pleased that President Barack Obama has openly shown hostility to this country over the BP oil spill, unlike several of his forerunners, who smiled at us while doing us down.

It may help us all grow up and stop fawning on Washington. Far too many people – many of them academics, many politicians – continue to jabber about a supposed ‘special relationship’ between our two countries.

I used to think that no such thing existed. Recently, I have become convinced that it does, and that it is in fact a Specially Bad Relationship.




article-1286128-0A01C039000005DC-976_468x286.jpg
'Specially Bad Relationship': President Obama on the phone to David Cameron



Americans may say they love our accents (I have been accused of sounding ‘like Princess Di’) but the more thoughtful ones resent and rather dislike us as a nation and people, as friends of mine have found out by being on the edge of conversations where Americans assumed no Englishmen were listening.


And it is the English, specifically, who are the targets of this. Few Americans have heard of Wales. All of them have heard of Ireland and many of them think they are Irish.



Scotland gets a sort of free pass, especially since Braveheart re-established the Scots’ anti-English credentials among the ignorant millions who get their history off the TV.


Words such as ‘arrogant’ and ‘snobbish’ occur – and the ceaseless use of English actors in Hollywood movies to portray haughty, cruel villains is not accidental.



Sometimes it bursts out into the open. Mel Gibson’s atrocious anti-English propaganda film The Patriot pretty much equated the Redcoats with the Nazi SS. And it played to full and enthusiastic houses. Some of this is deep-buried. The American national anthem, The Star-Spangled Banner, is a des*cription of a British naval bombardment of Baltimore. It refers to the presence of British troops on American soil as ‘their foul footsteps’ pollution’.


There’s always been a rough, republican anti-English spirit, well expres*sed by the Mayor of Chicago, Big Bill Thompson, who threatened to punch King George V ‘in the snoot’ if he ever came that way. His Majesty didn’t.
Apart from the war of 1812 to 1814, the two countries have almost come to blows many times. It was American pressure that forced us out of the first rank of naval powers in the Washington Naval Treaty of 1922, which led to our defeat at Singapore 20 years later.


The last physical clash was in 1956 when the US Sixth Fleet harassed the Royal Navy on its way to Suez, deliberately steering destroyers dangerously close to our battle line.


But by then Washington had learned money spoke louder than guns, and Dwight Eisenhower forced us to abort the operation by threatening to bankrupt us.


During an assignment in Washington I watched Bill Clinton fawn over the grisly IRA apologist Gerry Adams.


I learned that White House officials regarded us as on a level with, say, Yugoslavia – an annoying, backward European nation to be ordered about and forbidden to control its internal affairs.


That’s how it really stands. I would like a British Government to behave as if it understood this, instead of mouthing outdated and meaningless fake Chur*chillian ‘Finest Hour’ rubbish.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...mericas-itching-bash-snoot.html#ixzz0qlaDRviN



When you get the opportunity, could you ask him if it rivals the open hostility shown to the US, over situations that Britain has disagreed with??

Thanks loads. :good4u:
 
If you knew more of Peter Hitchens you wouldn't say that, he is considered right wing at least in British terms. I think you are confusing him with his brother Christopher Hitchens. I understand why Obama is doing it as he is facing mid term elections in November and a bit of Brit bashing always seems to play well domestically.

I did have the two confused....I 'm not familiar with Peter Hitchens...

Kinda like Christopher for the most part, though don't agree with him 100% of the time....and Brit bashing does not play well in middle American with a majority of us....but because the media kisses Dem. liberal ass all the time, you get the true perspective from them...
 
I did have the two confused....I 'm not familiar with Peter Hitchens...

Kinda like Christopher for the most part, though don't agree with him 100% of the time....and Brit bashing does not play well in middle American with a majority of us....but because the media kisses Dem. liberal ass all the time, you get the true perspective from them...

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