The left is so violent, they call us fascist!!!

You can always tell when you leftists are losing. You resort to the “both sides are guilty” routine

How many times have you called someone on the right a fascist or a threat to democracy in this board?

Yes I call you Marxists. I haven’t seen anyone on the right shooting prominent democrats because of it.

I said the rhetoric was bad on both sides. You just admitted that it is.

And we all know it is.
 
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Are you still trying to float the long debunked lie that the ANTFA scum Tyler Robinson was somehow "right wing?"

That failed long ago.

Now it turns out the Canadian that was initially arrested is an accomplice - another radical leftist, of course.

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The first man arrested in connection with the deadly shooting of Charlie Kirk yelled, “I shot him, now shoot me” immediately after the shooting in an attempt to help the shooter escape, according to newly filed documents.

George Zinn, 71, was taken into custody following the shooting, but he was later cleared of having any direct involvement with the shooting. He was arrested on suspicion of obstruction of justice.}



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This makes as much sense as that insane fuck does...

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To you. Trump is using Hitlers blueprint for taking over a nation. It has a precise meaning even though the right tries to cloud the discussions.
Hitler, Orban, all leaders who want the people to think they live in a democracy, but don’t.
I believe it was stated, he talks to Orban regularly.
 
So, when does he burn the Congress building down? What major public works programs has he started to buy votes?
1-6 was equivalent to Hitler's takeover attempt, similar to the Beer Hall Putsch. Trump uses violence and intimidation. He uses the courts to silence non followers or news. He has a 15 billion dollar suit against the Times. His patterns are the same. He attacks any and all who are not blind followers. He organized Trumpys to use fake electors to change the results of the election he lost,. They are brothers.
 
1-6 was equivalent to Hitler's takeover attempt, similar to the Beer Hall Putsch. Trump uses violence and intimidation. He uses the courts to silence non followers or news. He has a 15 billion dollar suit against the Times. His patterns are the same. He attacks any and all who are not blind followers. He orgab=nized Trumpys to use fake electors to change the results of the election he lost,. They are brothers.
I bet it will be dropped, all they have to do is immediately call for DonOld’s deposition.

Too much of his ugly past will be on display if this lawsuit goes forward. He just cares for the headlines.
 
I bet it will be dropped, all they have to do is immediately call for DonOld’s deposition.

Too much of his ugly past will be on display if this lawsuit goes forward. He just cares for the headlines.
The point is, he used the courts to stop people who criticize him or stand up to him. Trump has filed over 3500 lawsuits in his life. That is way abnormal.
 
1-6 was equivalent to Hitler's takeover attempt, similar to the Beer Hall Putsch.

A 3 hour riot? That's your example?
Trump uses violence and intimidation. He uses the courts to silence non followers or news. He has a 15 billion dollar suit against the Times.

So? Lettia James sued him and got a nearly $500 million judgement. Bragg twisted the law into a gordian knot and stacked 34 felony charges on him. Biden let his DOJ raid Trump's home with something like 50 armed FBI agents. And you're telling me Trump uses violence and intimidation?
His patterns are the same. He attacks any and all who are not blind followers. He organized Trumpys to use fake electors to change the results of the election he lost,. They are brothers.
That's what Biden did. Won't wear a mask and get a shot? You get fired! Say shit on the internet he doesn't like? His Disinformation Governance Board gets it removed, and you get investigated by the feds. Ballot harvesting, no voter ID, no purging voter rolls, registering 16- and 17-year-olds to vote? The Democrats love rigging elections.
 
A 3 hour riot? That's your example?


So? Lettia James sued him and got a nearly $500 million judgement. Bragg twisted the law into a gordian knot and stacked 34 felony charges on him. Biden let his DOJ raid Trump's home with something like 50 armed FBI agents. And you're telling me Trump uses violence and intimidation?

That's what Biden did. Won't wear a mask and get a shot? You get fired! Say shit on the internet he doesn't like? His Disinformation Governance Board gets it removed, and you get investigated by the feds. Ballot harvesting, no voter ID, no purging voter rolls, registering 16- and 17-year-olds to vote? The Democrats love rigging elections.
You are off on a crazy right-wing tangent again. Nobody even attempted what Trump did to overthrow an election. Your claims are typical right wing bullshit. What do ypou read to get those crazy ideas?
The tactics are old Trumpian. Trump tried to overthrow an election in terribly dangerous ways. You do not defend him. You pretend the Dems are as bad, therefore Trump's crimes should be forgiven.
A 3 hour riot? Did you watch it? Do you understand it? What would have happened if they got their hands on politicians? They injured over 140 guards and you wave it away because it was 3 hours. Would it have counted if it were 4 hours long? How about 5?
 
You are off on a crazy right-wing tangent again. Nobody even attempted what Trump did to overthrow an election. Your claims are typical right wing bullshit. What do ypou read to get those crazy ideas?

Yea, sure. Try 2004 Bush v. Gore. Presidential election of 1876.



Note that Trump doesn't even make the list. Where do you get your crazy ideas?
The tactics are old Trumpian. Trump tried to overthrow an election in terribly dangerous ways. You do not defend him. You pretend the Dems are as bad, therefore Trump's crimes should be forgiven.

I just showed Trump's efforts don't even register on the most corrupt scale of history.
A 3 hour riot? Did you watch it? Do you understand it? What would have happened if they got their hands on politicians? They injured over 140 guards and you wave it away because it was 3 hours. Would it have counted if it were 4 hours long? How about 5?
It was a 3-hour riot. It accomplished nothing.
 
The Left has made the word "fascist" as irrelevant as they made the term "liberal." Both have lost their meaning politically.
It's not irrelevant when it's happening. Unnamed masked thugs in the streets in unmarked vehicles - the military being thrust into blue cities against their wishes. Either help overcome this shit or stay out of our way!
Trump is transitory. The problem is the Left isn't. I've seen the same rhetorical shit, political theater, and violence from them going back to the early 80's. Visit any major university on any given day and the radical Left will be out and in your face with some sort of political nonsense or another. It's all-pervasive and nonstop with them.
Statistically the right is more violent than the left. This is a fact. You need to tell your trumptard buddies to rachet down their "lets go to war" rhetoric over the killing of a internet hate-merchant.s
You don't even have to be on the Right to get their ire. All you have to do is disagree, in the slightest, with them. When you disagree with a Leftist expect them to, at a minimum ignore you, and at the worst end, try and get physical.
You're describing Republicans.
They are insane. They don't want to hear what anyone who differs with them has to say.
Yep, Republicans again.
They are absolutely closed minded and rigidly dogmatic. In a word, they're religious nuts no different than Scientologists, Hari Krishna, or Jehovah's Witnesses.
Yep, Republicans.
This guy that shot Charlie Kirk got roped into that world and now he's fucked for life. Utah is very likely to slap a death penalty on him for his actions.
Which is their right. You break the laws in a jurisdiction, you face the pentalties - unless, of course, your last name is trump, maxwell, bannon, stone, or Epstein.
I've tried repeatedly over the years to discuss topics, and not just politics, with Leftists.p
No you don't. You make arguments that are questionable, then when faced with solid evidence to the contrary, you make shit up to fit your narrative.
You can't. They won't listen. They're totally closed minded.
Yes. you keep saying that, and I agree with you. You only have to talk to a Republican about their attacks on J6 and they call it a "tour".
Most recently I've gone to several public invites to meet Democrat candidates at local get togethers. I'm polite to a fault at these. I listen to what they have to say. If I can ask questions or talk to them I do. That never--NEVER--goes well.
You should go to a Republican town hall - for those who are brave enough to have them? They're not going well. But you KNOW that!
I tend to specialize in topics like energy where I have expertise without having to rely on sources or looking things up. I can tell you I've been shouted down, to insulted, to given the heavy sigh and rolling eyes, but not once was one of these people willing or able to answer my questions. Not one time. I'd tell them I listened to everything they had to say and ask why they won't do me the same courtesy. That just gets insults or dismissal.

The Left cannot be dealt with.
If you debate your Democratic officials like you debate here? I'm not surprised you're NOT met with open arms :)

You just spend so much time here owning yourself!
 
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A 3 hour riot? That's your example?


So? Lettia James sued him and got a nearly $500 million judgement. Bragg twisted the law into a gordian knot and stacked 34 felony charges on him. Biden let his DOJ raid Trump's home with something like 50 armed FBI agents. And you're telling me Trump uses violence and intimidation?
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Trump broke clear and undeniable laws so your example does not work unless you want o make the case that politicians should not be accountable to the law.
 
Hitler, Orban, all leaders who want the people to think they live in a democracy, but don’t.
I believe it was stated, he talks to Orban regularly.
It's a bromance.

"Donald Trump heaped praise on Viktor Orbán while hosting the Hungarian prime minister at Mar-a-Lago on Friday night.

“There’s nobody that’s better, smarter or a better leader than Viktor Orbán. He’s fantastic,” the former president told a crowd gathered for a concert at the Florida resort, as shown in a series of videos posted to Orbán’s Instagram account.

Trump added that the European autocrat is “a noncontroversial figure because he said, ‘This is the way it’s going to be,’ and that’s the end of it, right? He’s the boss and … he’s a great leader, fantastic leader. In Europe and around the world, they respect him.”

Trump called the visit “an honor” and seemed to reference the pair staying in contact after he left White House in 2021, saying they “kept in touch.”

The meeting and subsequent admiration underscore Trump’s history of embracing global strongmen – at times at the expense of more traditional US allies."
 
It's a bromance.

"Donald Trump heaped praise on Viktor Orbán while hosting the Hungarian prime minister at Mar-a-Lago on Friday night.

“There’s nobody that’s better, smarter or a better leader than Viktor Orbán. He’s fantastic,” the former president told a crowd gathered for a concert at the Florida resort, as shown in a series of videos posted to Orbán’s Instagram account.

Trump added that the European autocrat is “a noncontroversial figure because he said, ‘This is the way it’s going to be,’ and that’s the end of it, right? He’s the boss and … he’s a great leader, fantastic leader. In Europe and around the world, they respect him.”

Trump called the visit “an honor” and seemed to reference the pair staying in contact after he left White House in 2021, saying they “kept in touch.”

The meeting and subsequent admiration underscore Trump’s history of embracing global strongmen – at times at the expense of more traditional US allies."
He loves his facists
 
A 3 hour riot? That's your example?


So? Lettia James sued him and got a nearly $500 million judgement. Bragg twisted the law into a gordian knot and stacked 34 felony charges on him. Biden let his DOJ raid Trump's home with something like 50 armed FBI agents. And you're telling me Trump uses violence and intimidation?

That's what Biden did. Won't wear a mask and get a shot? You get fired! Say shit on the internet he doesn't like? His Disinformation Governance Board gets it removed, and you get investigated by the feds. Ballot harvesting, no voter ID, no purging voter rolls, registering 16- and 17-year-olds to vote? The Democrats love rigging elections.
Way to rewrite history!
 
It's a bromance.

"Donald Trump heaped praise on Viktor Orbán while hosting the Hungarian prime minister at Mar-a-Lago on Friday night.

“There’s nobody that’s better, smarter or a better leader than Viktor Orbán. He’s fantastic,” the former president told a crowd gathered for a concert at the Florida resort, as shown in a series of videos posted to Orbán’s Instagram account.

Trump added that the European autocrat is “a noncontroversial figure because he said, ‘This is the way it’s going to be,’ and that’s the end of it, right? He’s the boss and … he’s a great leader, fantastic leader. In Europe and around the world, they respect him.”

Trump called the visit “an honor” and seemed to reference the pair staying in contact after he left White House in 2021, saying they “kept in touch.”

The meeting and subsequent admiration underscore Trump’s history of embracing global strongmen – at times at the expense of more traditional US allies."

People always ask and seem to wonder why Trump can accept so many people in to his orbit, like JD Vance, who are on record saying the worst things about Trump, even worse than most on the far left say.

It is not a mystery and is the same reason he loves fascist leaders.

For Trump the only thing he does not understand and cannot work with is someone like Mike Pence. Someone Trump believes 'if he only does X, we win and then who cares if 'X' was correct to do or not'.

Trump has no desire to work with anyone who is morally rigid with certain lines they will not cross (religion, Constitution, etc).

So when Trump sees people like Vance who can go from hating him to bending the knee to him, Trump knows that is a person with zero principles guiding his actions and he will do anything if he sees a path to power. Similar for the fascist leaders.

The more you show yourself as an empty despicable person who will do anything for power the more Trump wants you on his team, knowing he can manipulate then to do what he wants and you will have no self imposed limits stopping you.
 
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