Charlie Kirk, hate speech is constitutionally protected!

[QP!]

Cancel culture includes digging up things from the past to cancel them now over

This is more about accountability culture - making you accountable now for what you do now

I imagine that premise terrifies the left

False.

Cancel culture as the magats cried about it, also very much involved a person saying something live in an interview and any calls from the left for that person to be fired or otherwise punished.

It was never limited to just statements of the past with them saying 'oh it is ok to say those thing live'.

that is what terrifies many magats as they now are a mirror to the most extreme elements on the far left they proclaimed they hated prior.

 

[Jarod]

Cancel culture includes digging up things from the past to cancel them now over

This is more about accountability culture - making you accountable now for what you do now

I imagine that premise terrifies the left

So, when Americans were boycotting Chick a filet, that was not cancel culture?
When a corporation took aunt Jamiama off the syrup bottles, that was not cancel culture?

 

[Nordberg]

Cancel culture includes digging up things from the past to cancel them now over

This is more about accountability culture - making you accountable now for what you do now

I imagine that premise terrifies the left

That is revealing the truth. Why are you against them hiding who they are from the people?

 

[zymurgy]

So, when Americans were boycotting Chick a filet, that was not cancel culture?
When a corporation took aunt Jamiama off the syrup bottles, that was not cancel culture?

not the kind I would argue against

cancel culture that is I find ridiculous is punishing people for things in the past based on the climate of today

at every point in human history - doing things considered taboo by the majority would have you see major problems in your life. It is good that you pay for doing things so outrageous as holding up a bloody head of Trump or celebrating violence in any form. cancel that form of bullshit "culture"

 

[zymurgy]

That is revealing the truth. Why are you against them hiding who they are from the people?

your reply is nonsensical

do better

 

[Jarod]

not the kind I would argue against

cancel culture that is I find ridiculous is punishing people for things in the past based on the climate of today

at every point in human history - doing things considered taboo by the majority would have you see major problems in your life. It is good that you pay for doing things so outrageous as holding up a bloody head of Trump or celebrating violence in any form. cancel that form of bullshit "culture"

Ok, but I do not think that was what Kirk was limiting it to, that is not the common definition in our current culture.

 

[Yakuda]

I am not saying he used any hate speech. He simply felt that it was not something the government should manage or make illegal, in the wake of his death, Bondi is not honoring the philosophy he espoused.

So?

 

[Lionfish]

Charlie never engaged in hate speech. Why all the brainless lies?

It's the receptionist. His history with OP's is based on trolling.

 

[Jarod]

So?

Do you believe hate speech should be prosecuted?

 

[Yakuda]

Do you believe hate speech should be prosecuted?

If it leads to violence don't you?

 

[Jarod]

If it leads to violence don't you?

It depends on how directly it leads to violence. Generally I do not because it should not be a crime due to the First Amendment. Chanting, "kill him", in a street fight... maybe. Saying "The right are fascist", no.

 

[Jarod]

If it leads to violence don't you?

The question was if you do... Are you going to run from the question?

 

[Yakuda]

It depends on how directly it leads to violence. Generally I do not because it should not be a crime due to the First Amendment. Chanting, "kill him", in a street fight... maybe. Saying "The right are fascist", no.

But if people believe fascist are dangerous they could be compelled not action. Couldn't they?

 

[Yakuda]

The question was if you do... Are you going to run from the question?

No reason to run

 

[Jarod]

But if people believe fascist are dangerous they could be compelled not action. Couldn't they?

Yes

 

[Yakuda]

Yes

If someone thought Charlie was dangerous they could be compelled to action and knowing people support the action supports violence.

 

[Jarod]

If someone thought Charlie was dangerous they could be compelled to action and knowing people support the action supports violence.

Yes

 

[Yakuda]

Yes

So.supportig the rest of Charlie supports violence. Everyone who did and does should have their heads handed to them fuck them.

 

[zymurgy]

Ok, but I do not think that was what Kirk was limiting it to, that is not the common definition in our current culture.

again - people doing things considered taboo and paying socially at the time of offense is not cancel culture in my mind. this is just human response and will never change

cancel culture is combing through what they said in the past and applying current rules over what is taboo to things they did in history

 

[Jarod]

again - people doing things considered taboo and paying socially at the time of offense is not cancel culture in my mind. this is just human response and will never change

cancel culture is combing through what they said in the past and applying current rules over what is taboo to things they did in history

I understand what you believe is cancel culture.