Charlie Kirk, hate speech is constitutionally protected!

[gmark77]

Charlie Kirk: cancel culture must stop

JD Vance: if people are talking bad about Charlie Kirk, call their bosses and get them fired.

The Right jumped on CANCEL CULTURE with both feet and a few extra limbs to boot.

For all the guff the Left takes about Cancel Culture, it actually required the Right to make it ironic and bizarre.

The fact that they want to limit free speech over the death of a free speech advocate tells you all you need to know: they don't care about Charlie. They just needed a Horst Wessel and any would do.

Their actions are the most disrespectful thing they could do with regards to Charlie.

 

[zymurgy]

I understand what you believe is cancel culture.

I understand the desire to use whataboutism

 

[Jarod]

I understand the desire to use whataboutism

I am discussing hypocrisy, not whataboutism.

Not trying to change the subject of this thread.

 

[zymurgy]

Accountability Culture is how we police bad behavior in a free society where you are allowed to act poorly

 

[zymurgy]

I am discussing hypocrisy, not whataboutism.

Not trying to change the subject of this thread.

You are ignoring the glaring differences in your attempted whataboutism

taboo behavior that is legal will have consequences.

no conservative argues against this.

 

[signalmankenneth]

Protected by the first ament….

Pam Bondi - anyone using hate speech against Charlie Kirk will be prosecuted.

Yes his speech was protected, and so should the people who celebrated and condemn Charlie Kirk after his death too?!!

Experts say Pentagon faces roadblocks to severely punishing service members for disparaging Charlie Kirk​

As multiple service members are facing investigation or suspension for posts on social media critical of Charlie Kirk, experts told CNN there are legal roadblocks to the military actually taking significant action against them.

A slew of accounts on X began posting screenshots of social media posts made by troops across the military services who were critical of Kirk and accused of mocking or celebrating his death. The accounts relentlessly tagged Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and other senior Pentagon officials to get their attention, calling for the service members to be fired.

On Thursday, Hegseth and the secretaries of the Army, Air Force and Navy posted similar comments promising action would be taken against inappropriate posts.

“The Department of War maintains a zero-tolerance policy for military personnel or DOW civilians who celebrate or mock the assassination of Charlie Kirk,” the Pentagon‘s Rapid Response account on X said, referencing the Defense Department’s secondary title as Department of War.

It’s unclear how many service members have been suspended or are now being investigated; but at least one Marine has been relieved of their duties while an investigation is carried out, according to a Marine Corps spokesman, and an Army officer has been suspended, according to an official familiar with the situation.

But the legal authority for the military to take action against individuals for posts about public figures is murky.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/experts-pentagon-faces-roadblocks-severely-223846780.html

 

[Jarod]

Yes his speech was protected, and so should the people who celebrated and condemn Charlie Kirk after his death too?!!

Experts say Pentagon faces roadblocks to severely punishing service members for disparaging Charlie Kirk​

As multiple service members are facing investigation or suspension for posts on social media critical of Charlie Kirk, experts told CNN there are legal roadblocks to the military actually taking significant action against them.

A slew of accounts on X began posting screenshots of social media posts made by troops across the military services who were critical of Kirk and accused of mocking or celebrating his death. The accounts relentlessly tagged Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and other senior Pentagon officials to get their attention, calling for the service members to be fired.

On Thursday, Hegseth and the secretaries of the Army, Air Force and Navy posted similar comments promising action would be taken against inappropriate posts.

“The Department of War maintains a zero-tolerance policy for military personnel or DOW civilians who celebrate or mock the assassination of Charlie Kirk,” the Pentagon‘s Rapid Response account on X said, referencing the Defense Department’s secondary title as Department of War.

It’s unclear how many service members have been suspended or are now being investigated; but at least one Marine has been relieved of their duties while an investigation is carried out, according to a Marine Corps spokesman, and an Army officer has been suspended, according to an official familiar with the situation.

But the legal authority for the military to take action against individuals for posts about public figures is murky.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/experts-pentagon-faces-roadblocks-severely-223846780.html

So you acknowledge it’s not constitutional for the president to threaten this.

 

[Kurmugeon]

No speech is ever Public Relations protected.


It is not illegal to drop N-bombs every third word... it is just foolish and self-defeating, as it should be.


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[Truth Detector]

Can you not read? I never said he did, I said he believed it was protected by the First Amendment.

You appeared to infer that Charlie was engaging in hate speech.

Now the Trump Administration wants to prosecute people for it, if they use it in relation to Charlie Kirk.

That's another dumb lie. Link to support this dumb lie.

 

[Truth Detector]

People saying words someone does not like? Charlie Kirk would hate that and also call for them to be cancelled! He was all about limiting contentious stuff people could say and punishing them for words!!!

Dumb unhinged lies. I don't think you can post without lying and looking like a moron.

 

[Truth Detector]

They are being fired for repeating Kirk’s words in some cases is what is so ridiculous.

Another brainless lie. I don't think you can post without lying, flailing and looking like a moron.

 

[Truth Detector]

Because Kirk was a racist and a hater. But cheering was a bad move. I take no pleasure when haters get killed. I wish they could live long enough to see the errors of their philosophies. I want them to become better people.

More unhinged brainless lies. The left is bereft of civility, honesty and intelligence.

 

[Truth Detector]

How many do you want as there is near an endless list of them?

There are none you unhinged lying dumb fuck.

 

[Truth Detector]

I am not saying he used any hate speech. He simply felt that it was not something the government should manage or make illegal, in the wake of his death, Bondi is not honoring the philosophy he espoused.

Really? How? Provide documented legitimate links.

 

[Damocles]

The coin has flipped again. Suddenly "hate speech" is something the right is saying and the left suddenly wants to have Free Speech upheld.

"Hate speech" is not something you can prosecute over and stay within the due bounds of the Constitution. However, when I watched the Bondi interview she had a sentence which is removed and stated "when it crosses the line into threats"...

Threatening folks with violence is already illegal, I would support prosecution over that.

Saying "reichwing" or "leftreich" is not a threat and should not be prosecuted.

I support free speech. Consequences of Free Speech come from the private sector, the government should have no dog in that hunt.

 

[Truth Detector]

For the record i am saying (and providing video) of him using hate speech.

No, lying leftist snowflake. Your using edited clips and our-of-context statements in a desperate attempt to look like a dishonest lying asshat on steroids.

So while i agree with your second point entirely and Bondi and Trump and Vance all calling for this speech to be severely punished is not something i think Kirk would ever approve.

If that speech incites violence, it is not protected. If you had a brain, you would be able to comprehend the obvious instead of parroting stupidity.

But also for the record he was an extremely hate filled person who weaponized the language of hate and celebrated violence that would be directed at others.

More brainless unhinged lies. I don't think you can post without looking stupid and dishonest.

 

[Truth Detector]

I am sure that is true.

It's pure unhinged bullshit. Much like what you post.

 

[Truth Detector]

And he was also perfectly ok with innocent people getting shot and dying, including kids, because he believed that was a justified cost to keep weapons laws very open and ensure even mentally ill people and criminals could easily get guns.

Another dumb and brainless lie. You seem quite full of them while bloviating like a brainless dumbass.

So i am certain he would be ok with him dying 'for the cause' and anyone who does not think so is saying he is truly a reprehensible person who thought it ok for 'others' to die but not himself.

The only thing you are certain of is lying and making unhinged claims.

 

[Truth Detector]

False.

Cancel culture as the magats cried about it, also very much involved a person saying something live in an interview and any calls from the left for that person to be fired or otherwise punished.

It was never limited to just statements of the past with them saying 'oh it is ok to say those thing live'.

that is what terrifies many magats as they now are a mirror to the most extreme elements on the far left they proclaimed they hated prior.

 

[Truth Detector]

So, when Americans were boycotting Chick a filet, that was not cancel culture?

Those were leftists who hate Christians you brainless dunce.

When a corporation took aunt Jamiama off the syrup bottles, that was not cancel culture?

That was due to leftists claiming it was racist you brainless dunce.