Obama refuses help of Dutch skimmers

Onceler said:
Oh, I dunno bravo - brought the total from $75M to $20B?

LOL
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Bullshit....right....?

Its your wild ass imagination run amuk while trying to kiss Obama's ass


Here,,,try it again

May 4, 2010

• BP Vows to Pay for Clean-Up

The company behind the massive oil spill threatening the economy and environment along the Gulf Coast has vowed to pay all "necessary and appropriate" clean-up costs.

The promise by British Petroleum (BP) came during a meeting on Sunday with attorneys generals from five Gulf Coast states who formed a coalition to coordinate responses to the devastating oil slick.

Read more: http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...#ixzz0r3acO4Sl


Where does it say 75M
 
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bravo said:
From your link..
With few exceptions, these international offers of assistance are made on a reimbursable basis, which means that the assistance is provided only if paid for by the recipient. All offers of assistance are considered promptly and carefully, are expedited if needed, and are appreciated greatly by the American people as we address this threat to our Gulf coast.

From my link..
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/13/AR2010061304232.html

After delays, U.S. begins to tap foreign aid for gulf oil spill.

Four weeks after the nation's worst environmental disaster, the Obama administration saw no need to accept offers of state-of-the-art skimmers, miles of boom or technical assistance from nations around the globe with experience fighting oil spills.

"We'll let BP decide on what expertise they do need," State Department spokesman Gordon Duguid told reporters on May 19. "We are keeping an eye on what supplies we do need. And as we see that our supplies are running low, it may be at that point in time to accept offers from particular governments."

Well...better late than never I suppose....
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Sounds reasonable to me. Your assumption is that every offer of equipment is needed; that it's offered, and they refuse it for no reason whatsoever. I don't see a lot of backup for that.

Besides that, if you read the previous posts, ID asked for a link stating that the State Dept. was working w/ foreign countries on assistance. The link shows that they are.

You mensa have anything else you want to try throwing at me?
 
Yea nobody ever complained about how exxon fucked Alaska any didn't come close to meeting it's obligation. Lol
 
Superfreak said:
LMAO...

There are how many people that live along the gulf coast toppy? 14 million.

Say a tenth of them work in industries affected by the spill. (ie.. tourism, fishing, oyster beds etc...)

That equates to about $15k per person. Which might be what... six months of salary down there? This has already gone on for two months. You think everything will be back to normal in four more months?
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This man couldn't pass the GED test! He makes a speed bump look intelligent.
 
Outstanding! . I’m rating this thread a high comedic value.

Posters who routinely vote for candidates like Shrub, Dick Cheney, and Sarah Palin, whining that a 20 billion dollar punishment isn’t enough.

What are the odds that Shrub, Cheney, Palin, McCain or Rand Paul would have leaned big time on BP to make massive economic concessions equal to the annual GDP of a developing nation?

The oil and corporate-friendly party of tort-reformers and liability-cappers?

Chance are Zero, none, or nil..


Bottom line- rubes who vote republican, or blather about the dangers of natural oil seepage don’t have a leg to stand on, and their brayings and cluckings can and should be completely ignored, as per usual.
 
Onceler said:
Sounds reasonable to me. Your assumption is that every offer of equipment is needed; that it's offered, and they refuse it for no reason whatsoever. I don't see a lot of backup for that.


Oh, there is a reason...there is a law you might have heard about, and Obam don't want to piss off unions or union labor after they financed his rise to fame...

Besides that, if you read the previous posts, ID asked for a link stating that the State Dept. was working w/ foreign countries on assistance. The link shows that they are.

Yes, I they are now...NOW when the fuckin' damage is just about out of control...four weeks of gushing oil wasn't bad enough to accept assistance..and now its a nightmare. Face it Peckerhead, your messiah screwed the pooch on this one...hes bankrupting the nation with spending and socialism, and now the entire Gulf Coast will pay for his lack of leadedrship and foresight.


You mensa have anything else you want to try throwing at me?
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You mensa ? WTF is you mensa?
 
Cypress said:
Outstanding! . I’m rating this thread a high comedic value.

Posters who routinely vote for candidates like Shrub, Dick Cheney, and Sarah Palin, whining that a 20 billion dollar punishment isn’t enough.

What are the odds that Shrub, Cheney, Palin, McCain or Rand Paul would have leaned big time on BP to make massive economic concessions equal to the annual GDP of a developing nation?

The oil and corporate-friendly party of tort-reformers and liability-cappers?

Chance are Zero, none, or nil..

Bottom line- rubes who vote republican, or blather about the dangers of natural oil seepage don’t have a leg to stand on, and their brayings and cluckings can and should be completely ignored, as per usual.
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wow.... reading the above truly will make one laugh.... who knew captain straw man could create yet another masterpiece....

Obama 'leaned on BP'???? Did he really? What exactly did Obama do?

Yet another liberal parrot who is trying to champion this as some massive accomplishment. In reality, this is yet another liberal smoke screen to try to take the heat off of the complete failure of the Obama administration to handle this situation.

Bottom line is this.... the oil spill is still flowing. The clean up process was botched from the start.

Now we hear all the liberal excuses of 'he don't have to use all aid offered, because he has accepted some'..... one excuse after another on why the Dutch arms weren't called in for TWO fucking months. Had they been in place when the Dutch first offered them, how much damage would have been prevented? Obviously we will never know, because Obama fucked it up and is now trying to champion his 'victory'.

Funny how the liberal lemmings failed to address the math behind the 'victory'. I wonder why.

Instead, we have yet another attempt by the idiot that voted for the people that LOST to Bush trying to bring Bush and Cheney into the discussion in a vain attempt to deflect criticism from their messiah.

Kudos to our resident leg humping stalker.... another straw man masterpiece.
 
"Yes, I they are now...NOW when the fuckin' damage is just about out of control...four weeks of gushing oil wasn't bad enough to accept assistance..and now its a nightmare. Face it Peckerhead, your messiah screwed the pooch on this one...hes bankrupting the nation with spending and socialism, and now the entire Gulf Coast will pay for his lack of leadedrship and foresight."

LOL

Alex, I'll take "Things a right-wing hack would say for $500"!
 
Superfreak said:
I'll take "things a brain dead lemming trying to defend his messiah would say for $20B'
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LOL

You'd like to have it both ways on this thread. You're not saying anything "negative," but are repeatedly ridiculing - and I mean total mockery - the idea that Obama could have possibly had even the slightest thing to do with BP ponying up $20 billion...IMMEDIATELY AFTER THEY MET WITH THE WHITE HOUSE.

It's embarassing, quite honestly. The conservative spin-fest has been in full force today - trying to downplay the $20B, point out all of its negatives, say that Obama had nothing to do w/ it, blah, blah, blah.

Like I said before, it's a "tell." If this isn't a decent accomplishment out of this admin, nothing is.
 
Onceler said:
LOL

You'd like to have it both ways on this thread. You're not saying anything "negative," but are repeatedly ridiculing - and I mean total mockery - the idea that Obama could have possibly had even the slightest thing to do with BP ponying up $20 billion...IMMEDIATELY AFTER THEY MET WITH THE WHITE HOUSE.

It's embarassing, quite honestly. The conservative spin-fest has been in full force today - trying to downplay the $20B, point out all of its negatives, say that Obama had nothing to do w/ it, blah, blah, blah.

Like I said before, it's a "tell." If this isn't a decent accomplishment out of this admin, nothing is.
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What is embarrassing is your pretending this wasn't going to happen. You truly think that after Obama's tantrum and childish ranting about BP for the past couple of weeks (prior to actually thinking about ACTUALLY TALKING TO THEM) that BP simply walked in and Obama talked them into funding the $20b.

That is what is truly pathetic about the messiah's worshipers. They will buy any story that is spoon fed to them. Only his devout worshipers think this is a major victory for Obama.

Again... stating that this is NOT a victory is NO WHERE near equal to saying that this is a NEGATIVE for Obama. It is in no way a NEGATIVE. You seem to be too fucking ignorant to realize that there are THREE alternatives....

Positive

Negative

and

wait for it....

wait for it....

NEUTRAL

The $20B is in no way negative.

My point is that it is not the glorified positive either.

Yet you continue to spin away and pretend that by saying it is not positive that I am 'trying to have it both ways'. It simply shows your true colors as a devout worshiper of the messiah. Willing to defend his ineptness at every turn.
 
Four weeks ago BP said they would pay for the cleanup after meeting with the governors of the Gulf States....
Now, as if by magic, the Obama meeting got BP to pay for the cleanup.....

Maybe next week BP will have a meeting with Rush and he can claim that meeting was the one that forced BP to pay for the cleanup....(well....maybe not)
 
bravo said:
Four weeks ago BP said they would pay for the cleanup after meeting with the governors of the Gulf States....
Now, as if by magic, the Obama meeting got BP to pay for the cleanup.....

Maybe next week BP will have a meeting with Rush and he can claim that meeting was the one that forced BP to pay for the cleanup....(well....maybe not)
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didn't obama's aids release to the media the 20 billion dollar fund before the meeting was over...it looks like the 20 billion was already agreeable by BP
 
Yurt said:
didn't obama's aids release to the media the 20 billion dollar fund before the meeting was over...it looks like the 20 billion was already agreeable by BP
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Or maybe that the admin went in w/ the $20 billion figure in mind, and released it once they got the commitment?

It's all pretty much speculation, but I love how you & bravs (the right's Desh, btw), and SF for that matter, consider it a foregone conclusion that Obama & the admin had nothing to do w/ it.
 
Damocles said:
The unions objected to outside help....

The Jones Act "ensures that the U.S. keeps and maintains a fleet of ships staffed by U.S. crews and owned by U.S. companies."

http://www.shipguide.com/the-jones-act.html

It was the "U.S. Companies" portion that kept them at bay... and that caused the refusal...

Some of the damages must therefore be partially attributed to this refusal.
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Hey Damo - So are you ostracising ID still, or just skimming her posts? Looks like you missed some cogent points like the bit about already mentioning the Jones Act...

Wassup, Father Messageboard...?
 
Onceler said:
Or maybe that the admin went in w/ the $20 billion figure in mind, and released it once they got the commitment?

It's all pretty much speculation, but I love how you & bravs (the right's Desh, btw), and SF for that matter, consider it a foregone conclusion that Obama & the admin had nothing to do w/ it.
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which is a complete exaggeration of what I stated... AGAIN....

How desperate the disciples of the messiah have become....
 
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