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Not to mention that Freidrich evaded mandatory Bavarian military service which made his immigration to the US illegal.
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Would that have disqualified them from becoming Citizens? I'm sure you'll have the link for me to back that up....
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Did he become a citizen?
German origin quotas were filled decades in advance, where as they could immediately immigrate if they were Swedish. Owning a brothel would have disqualified trump on morals rules. Trump lied about his place of origin, having been in the USA before, owning a brothel, and even his last name... Which makes him an illegal immigrant. His grandson continued the lie. Even though the grandson learned German to talk to his grandmother, he claimed she was Swedish as late as the early 2000's.
trump says that natural born Americans who are children of people who illegally immigrate are not citizens, and are illegal aliens. his grandparents were illegal aliens. his father was a natural born citizen, but if we use his standard was also an illegal alien. his mother got citizenship through marrying his father, so could not get citizenship based on marrying an illegal alien, making her an illegal alien too. That makes trump himself born to two illegal aliens, by his standard, so an illegal alien.
When does trump deport himself?
I think Trump would rather just deport Democracy and turn the US into his own cesspit.
Let's go through this while considering the laws in 1885 when they actually migrated to the United States.
1. The US did not differentiate between European Countries when you migrated. They were specific to whether or not you were solvent financially, and did not care if you said you were from Sweden, or from Germany for that matter. This would not be illegal, even if he had done that.
2. US Immigration records list Friedrich Trump's (later anglicized to Frederick) county of Origin as Germany, not Sweden. He did come from Germany, but it was after he left Bavaria where he was born. Claims that he or his descendants misrepresented his origins as Swedish appear to stem from later statements by Donald Trump about his father Fred (who was born in the Bronx in 1905), not Friedrich himself. These inaccuracies were likely efforts to downplay German heritage amid 20th-century anti-German sentiment (e.g., during World Wars), but they postdate 1885 by decades.
**** A little personal history: Here I will say that my Grandfather changed our last name during the wars to avoid being taken for German, this was something some German folks did back then.
3. There was no federal statute criminalizing inaccuracies on entry manifests until the Immigration Act of 1891 introduced perjury penalties for sworn statements (which weren't routine yet). Even then, enforcement was lax for Europeans, as the focus was on excluding "undesirables" like the ill, paupers, or convicts, not probing origins. Historians note that manifests were often filled out by ship captains or clerks based on verbal reports, with errors common and unpunished.
4. It was not even asked if you ran Brothels, nor was it something that would be illegal for them not to mention.
What Was Asked at Entry?: Inspections were cursory (often 5–10 minutes per person) and didn't probe past employment or moral history for European men. Standard questions centered on employability and public burden risk, not criminal or vice-related activities. Prostitution-related inquiries only emerged in the Page Act of 1875, but it exclusively targeted Asian (primarily Chinese) women suspected of being trafficked for sex work, requiring them to prove they weren't prostitutes. European immigrants faced no such scrutiny; broader exclusions (e.g., for "convicts" or "persons likely to become a public charge") were added in 1891 but didn't retroactively apply or require disclosure of vice operations.
So, in short. Neither of the two things you claim were something that would have been illegal or kept them from migrating even if they were true.
America needed another whoremaster. Just like America needed another spank mag model when they gave Melania an Einstein visa.
Immigration is our strength. Specifically Drumpf/Trump immigration.
This is also nothing that was asked about or made a difference in migration at that time. It simply wasn't illegal. Things that would have stopped him. If he was not employable and had no money, if he was sick (he would have to be quarantined), if he was handicapped in some way it could have stopped him if they believe he would not be able to find employment because of the handicap.
Nobody was asked why they left Europe, nor did they care which county you were actually from, they only wanted to know where the boat that brought you was from.
Actually he was evading the draft in his home country. Draft dodging is not a virtue.
Draft dodging in Bavaria was, though. So we had a criminal coming into our country.
A vile CRIMINAL.
....and a whoremaster.
Guess the family never improved themselves.
We were not enforcing Bavarian Draft Dodging laws here. The question was if his immigration was legal. It was.
It just shows the Trump family broke laws and came to the US as criminals. And whoremasters.
Tons of people faced those kinds of challenges to get here. I care not. Shoot most towns had legal brothels in the US at that time. This "whoremasters" crap is just that... crap.
I don't know if you've met any MAGA folks but they HATE criminals coming into our country
(Oh yeah and it might have been illegal in the US for a draft dodger to try to become a citizen)
So it's cool that Trump's grandfather was as grotesque and morally corrupt as Trump is! It's just fun to see that whoring never goes out of style for Trumps.
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but NICE leftist dumbass still makes makes you a leftist dumbass
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I do not condone violence.
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against leftists