I think we should change the name of Immigration and Customs Enforcement to add....

AProudLefty said:
We got you to believe that I condone violence against "you people"?

You're confused. I do not condone violence of any kind.
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We got you to believe that I believe that you got me to believe you condone violence against "you people".

You're a retard. This is fun
 
It would also serve an important LEGAL precedent.

It would reinforce the concept that this is immigration enforcement from the Federal, D.C. Level, and the fact that Federal law Trumps(*sic) state law, where the two exist.

Meaning, If the NICE gets a warrant for arrest and deportation, the State Police and Governor cannot stand in the way.

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gmark77 said:
So why did you vote for MAGA when that's exactly what they ar
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Damocles said:
Let's go through this while considering the laws in 1885 when they actually migrated to the United States.

1. The US did not differentiate between European Countries when you migrated. They were specific to whether or not you were solvent financially, and did not care if you said you were from Sweden, or from Germany for that matter. This would not be illegal, even if he had done that.
2. US Immigration records list Friedrich Trump's (later anglicized to Frederick) county of Origin as Germany, not Sweden. He did come from Germany, but it was after he left Bavaria where he was born. Claims that he or his descendants misrepresented his origins as Swedish appear to stem from later statements by Donald Trump about his father Fred (who was born in the Bronx in 1905), not Friedrich himself. These inaccuracies were likely efforts to downplay German heritage amid 20th-century anti-German sentiment (e.g., during World Wars), but they postdate 1885 by decades.
**** A little personal history: Here I will say that my Grandfather changed our last name during the wars to avoid being taken for German, this was something some German folks did back then.
3. There was no federal statute criminalizing inaccuracies on entry manifests until the Immigration Act of 1891 introduced perjury penalties for sworn statements (which weren't routine yet). Even then, enforcement was lax for Europeans, as the focus was on excluding "undesirables" like the ill, paupers, or convicts, not probing origins. Historians note that manifests were often filled out by ship captains or clerks based on verbal reports, with errors common and unpunished.
4. It was not even asked if you ran Brothels, nor was it something that would be illegal for them not to mention.
What Was Asked at Entry?: Inspections were cursory (often 5–10 minutes per person) and didn't probe past employment or moral history for European men. Standard questions centered on employability and public burden risk, not criminal or vice-related activities. Prostitution-related inquiries only emerged in the Page Act of 1875, but it exclusively targeted Asian (primarily Chinese) women suspected of being trafficked for sex work, requiring them to prove they weren't prostitutes. European immigrants faced no such scrutiny; broader exclusions (e.g., for "convicts" or "persons likely to become a public charge") were added in 1891 but didn't retroactively apply or require disclosure of vice operations.


So, in short. Neither of the two things you claim were something that would have been illegal or kept them from migrating even if they were true.
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How many stories have you heard about people coming to America with 20 bucks in their pockets? Then ,like now, we needed the workers. They are the fuel to our successful economy over the years. Trump's mother came to America with about 50 bucks in her purse.
TOP said:
It would be easier just to have people come here legally. So many have for so many years...
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In fact, we did not have so many rules. They showed up at Ellis Island and were granted an opportunity. The stories of people arriving with 20 bucks in their pockets are numerous and well-known.
 
Walt said:
German origin quotas were filled decades in advance, where as they could immediately immigrate if they were Swedish. Owning a brothel would have disqualified trump on morals rules. Trump lied about his place of origin, having been in the USA before, owning a brothel, and even his last name... Which makes him an illegal immigrant. His grandson continued the lie. Even though the grandson learned German to talk to his grandmother, he claimed she was Swedish as late as the early 2000's.
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What a load of malarkey! :rofl2:
 
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