Hamas agrees to most of TRUMP peace plan

Hamas accepts Trump peace plan ending 2 years of war in Gaza, returning hostages​


Hamas welcomes parts of US proposal for ending Gaza war, says it’s prepared to free all hostages, but seeks follow-up talks​


Netanyahu hopes to announce release of all hostages from Gaza "in the coming days" after Hamas agreed to parts of Trump peace plan​

Hope it works out, but I’m pessimistic.

Whatever happened to the war ending on 1/21/2025?
 
Why allow the cycle to continue? Why allow more innocent Israelis to die at the hands of hate-filled war-criminal Terrorists?

IMHO, in the Oct7 attack, all Arabs (Palestinians) forever disqualified themselves from living in Gaza ever again. They can leave or die.

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The Israelis, especially the Zionists, are anything but innocent.

They murdered and stole their way to their country in the first place.
 
That's what the Palestinians get for being poor and stupid. That's their fault and nobody else's. They suck at fighting wars, yet they keep starting them. They fight each other too.

Give one Palestinian a gun, you get a massacre. Give two Palestinians guns, you get a war.

They're their own worst enemy. Why should I bother to fix their problems when they are unwilling and unable to put in any effort on their own?
The Zionists murdered and stole their way to their country.
 
BUSH WAS IN OFFICE WHEN THE USSR FINALLY COLLAPSED but Reagan started the process.

Reagan accelerated the collapse of the Soviet Union.

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Ronald Reagan helped end the Cold War through a multi-faceted approach of military, economic, and diplomatic pressure on the Soviet Union
. His strategy, often summarized as "peace through strength," aimed to exploit the Soviet system's weaknesses and negotiate with a position of overwhelming leverage.

Reagan and the Vatican supported the Solidarity movement which aided Poland to pull out of the USSR. That started a domino effect of USSR losing its satellite states and damaged the USSR economy.
Yeah, Reagan and his spending. That’s when the massive budget deficits began. Along with the collapse of the middle class.

Thanks Ronnie.
 
You may be correct but the Arab nations seem to be reducing their support for continuing to support war and Hamas may lose the financial support they have. It seems like a better idea to develop the Gaza strip. It is a great piece of land and could be developed into a great financial success if they would stop making war.
Several years ago my wife was the court reporter on the Holy Land Foundation trial. It was the first Palestinian terrorist trial in the US. In the trial they had video of elementary school kids in a school play dressed as suicide bombers and kids with rubber knives sitting the throats of "jews". The parents in the video were cheering and clapping singing. These people hate Israel so much I have seen video of them digging up water pipe to make Qassam rockets to shoot into Israel. I don't know how you ever overcome that kind of hate.
You may not be able to overcome it. You reap what you sow.

The Zionists murdered and stole their way to the formation of Israel at the expense of the Palestinians. I wonder why the animosity?
 
Mine? Nope. I’m no Zionist.

I’m merely familiar with the history of that region.
Ancient hatred exists on both sides of the conflict for thousands of years. Israel has only been around since 1948. Your "zionists" are not the only guilty party.

Let me ask you something. Are you living in the US? If you are, the land you're living on used to be Native American land. Why don't you find a Native American and give them the keys to your home? After all, it's rightfully theirs.

The Israelis took land Palestinians turned into a shithole and turned it into a prosperous country.

Again, let us know when you give your worldly belongings to a Native American.
 
You may be correct but the Arab nations seem to be reducing their support for continuing to support war and Hamas may lose the financial support they have. It seems like a better idea to develop the Gaza strip. It is a great piece of land and could be developed into a great financial success if they would stop making war.
Several years ago my wife was the court reporter on the Holy Land Foundation trial. It was the first Palestinian terrorist trial in the US. In the trial they had video of elementary school kids in a school play dressed as suicide bombers and kids with rubber knives sitting the throats of "jews". The parents in the video were cheering and clapping singing. These people hate Israel so much I have seen video of them digging up water pipe to make Qassam rockets to shoot into Israel. I don't know how you ever overcome that kind of hate.
It is you that is ignorant, either by nature or deliberately. Israel since 1948 has grown into a Western nation with a successful economy and good living standards for its people. It is reasonably inclusive and has Arab and Muslim members in its parliament and government. Internal warfare doesn't exist and terrorism is actively stopped.

Palestine has a failed economy and is heavily dependent on foreign aid just to feed its people. There are numerous warring factions within the Palestinian territories like:

Hamas
Islamic Jihad
Popular Resistance Committee (Al-Nasser brigades)
Al-Aqsa Martyrs (part of Fatah movement)
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine
PLO
Palestinian Authority

These fight each other almost as much as they fight Israel. They each have their areas of power, like street gangs.

Corruption is omnipresent in the Palestinian territories. The major terrorist / political groups use foreign aid and terrorism to shake down and maintain control over those living within their areas of control.

Israel is simply a shared, common, enemy for all of them.



Yes, you are. The Left is rife with lunatics and nutters.


There still is, but it can be ignored like it always has been.


No, the Left has gotten more extreme, the Right hasn't changed much.


That's the view from the radical Left. The Republicans aren't particularly more extreme than they were 20 or 30 years ago.
It is you that is ignorant, either by nature or deliberately. Israel since 1948 has grown into a Western nation with a successful economy and good living standards for its people. It is reasonably inclusive and has Arab and Muslim members in its parliament and government. Internal warfare doesn't exist and terrorism is actively stopped.

Palestine has a failed economy and is heavily dependent on foreign aid just to feed its people. There are numerous warring factions within the Palestinian territories like:

Hamas
Islamic Jihad
Popular Resistance Committee (Al-Nasser brigades)
Al-Aqsa Martyrs (part of Fatah movement)
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine
PLO
Palestinian Authority

These fight each other almost as much as they fight Israel. They each have their areas of power, like street gangs.

Corruption is omnipresent in the Palestinian territories. The major terrorist / political groups use foreign aid and terrorism to shake down and maintain control over those living within their areas of control.

Israel is simply a shared, common, enemy for all of them.



Yes, you are. The Left is rife with lunatics and nutters.


There still is, but it can be ignored like it always has been.


No, the Left has gotten more extreme, the Right hasn't changed much.


That's the view from the radical Left. The Republicans aren't particularly more extreme than they were 20 or 30 years ago.
Israel stole the land from the Palestinians
 
Ancient hatred exists on both sides of the conflict. Your "zionists" are not the only guilty party.
It’s probably best you did a little research on how the nation of Israel came about.

That land was almost completely Palestinian and peaceful until the Zionist movement began at the turn of the 20th century or so. After WWI, that area came under control of the Brits, who fucked it up big time. So badly did they fuck it up, they completely washed their hands of it and walked away.

Meanwhile, the Zionist movement grew and that’s when the murdering and land theft began, culminating in the massive Palestinian exodus from their own land.

Feel free to look it up or remain ignorant of the history.
 

Hamas accepts Trump peace plan ending 2 years of war in Gaza, returning hostages​


Hamas welcomes parts of US proposal for ending Gaza war, says it’s prepared to free all hostages, but seeks follow-up talks​


Netanyahu hopes to announce release of all hostages from Gaza "in the coming days" after Hamas agreed to parts of Trump peace plan​

If this goes through and holds, the Trump administration will have accomplished something historic. On par with the Abraham accords that Jimmy Carter brokered!
 
Ancient hatred exists on both sides of the conflict for thousands of years. Israel has only been around since 1948. Your "zionists" are not the only guilty party.

Let me ask you something. Are you living in the US? If you are, the land you're living on used to be Native American land. Why don't you find a Native American and give them the keys to your home? After all, it's rightfully theirs.

The Israelis took land Palestinians turned into a shithole and turned it into a prosperous country.

Again, let us know when you give your worldly belongings to a Native American.
Absurd comparison. I don’t propose all of Israel be returned to the Palestinians. Nor do I do the same in the US to the natives. But the situations are similar. Stole the land through theft and slaughter and moved the survivors to shithole reservations.

The land the Palestinians occupied was hardly a shithole. They lived in relative peace, engaged in commerce, farmed and owned businesses. They lived side by side with the VERY FEW JEWS who actually lived there. This was within the last 100 years or so. Then, the land theft and purge of the Palestinians began.

Now, unlike Israelis and especially the Zionists, I abhor what we did and continue to do to the Native Americans.
 
Absurd comparison. I don’t propose all of Israel be returned to the Palestinians. Nor do I do the same in the US to the natives. But the situations are similar. Stole the land through theft and slaughter and moved the survivors to shithole reservations.

The land the Palestinians occupied was hardly a shithole. They lived in relative peace, engaged in commerce, farmed and owned businesses. They lived side by side with the VERY FEW JEWS who actually lived there. This was within the last 100 years or so. Then, the land theft and purge of the Palestinians began.

Now, unlike Israelis and especially the Zionists, I abhor what we did and continue to do to the Native Americans.
Then they shot rockets into a music festival in Israel.
 
You may not be able to overcome it. You reap what you sow.

The Zionists murdered and stole their way to the formation of Israel at the expense of the Palestinians. I wonder why the animosity?
The Jews owned the land for over 3000 years the Arabs threw them out and the Jews took it back.
 
It’s probably best you did a little research on how the nation of Israel came about.

That land was almost completely Palestinian and peaceful until the Zionist movement began at the turn of the 20th century or so. After WWI, that area came under control of the Brits, who fucked it up big time. So badly did they fuck it up, they completely washed their hands of it and walked away.

Meanwhile, the Zionist movement grew and that’s when the murdering and land theft began, culminating in the massive Palestinian exodus from their own land.

Feel free to look it up or remain ignorant of the history.
I see you cut off most of my post. It's a sign you've lost the argument. Come back when you're ready to give your house to an American Indian.
 
Absurd comparison. I don’t propose all of Israel be returned to the Palestinians. Nor do I do the same in the US to the natives. But the situations are similar. Stole the land through theft and slaughter and moved the survivors to shithole reservations.

The land the Palestinians occupied was hardly a shithole. They lived in relative peace, engaged in commerce, farmed and owned businesses. They lived side by side with the VERY FEW JEWS who actually lived there. This was within the last 100 years or so. Then, the land theft and purge of the Palestinians began.

Now, unlike Israelis and especially the Zionists, I abhor what we did and continue to do to the Native Americans.
It was a shithole. Israel turned it into prosperous nation. I'm quite familiar with how Israel came about. I lived there for 2 years. I'm also quite used to bigotry and ignorance like yours.
 
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